US Politics Mega-thread - Page 1122

On June 19 2014 01:41 Danglars wrote:
Once again we run into how things are viewed by the leftist, statist mindset, and how Romney struggled to motivate his base. He failed to even capture the turnout of even McCain/Palin in 2008, and that's with 4 years of Obama record to run on! His support of an ACA-lite undoubtably was part of that too, I'll hand you that.

We're waiting for the conservative leader that will not pull punches to please media figures, and I hope that's in time for 2016. Someone that shows consistent leadership in the face of heavy opposition from beltway pundits and the political adviser class, not to mention his political opponent and smear campaign. Their ideas fail and have failed, so they are left calling their opponent's ideas "nonsense" because any examination of record dooms them.

On June 19 2014 01:58 Nyxisto wrote:


Smear campaigns, you gotta be kidding me. I don't remember the liberals questioning Mitt Romneys birth status or painting him as a Muslim communist. Also the GOP website at the moment titles "not another clinton in the house!" next to "buy George H.W Bushs colored sock collection!" (the most annoying dynasty that ever occupied the White House).

Sounds to me like you want a mix of Ronald Reagan and Vladimir Putin as a leader. Great choice if you're white over 60 or a religious fanatic, not so great for the rest of the world.

On June 19 2014 02:01 Shiragaku wrote:

lol was Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity's smear campaign not enough for you?
Please stop this persecution complex, you are part of one of the two major parties that run this country and much of the world. Once you start devoting all of your energy to supporting third party candidates, you can come back and talk about the bullshit that plagues American media.

On June 19 2014 02:05 Danglars wrote:

He was anti-women war-on-women, had a binder of women. He was uncaring because he put his dog on the roof. Democrats don't fight with the gloves on, Republicans more and more do. You yourself are ready to paint conservative values as Vladimir Putin ... not exactly a shining example of issues-based opposition rather than smear-opposition. Like Reagan showed, and what the main thrust of my post was, is first you must oppose establishment mindset and project leadership, before you even confront your opponent and the lies he/she throws at you. It is a political tactic around 4 decades old or perhaps longer to label your opponent an extremist and hope it sticks with a constant media barrage.

On June 19 2014 02:14 mcc wrote:
Some people and their divorce from reality.

Danglars and his imaginary shift to the left. Socially yes, economically America moved to the right, so did many other countries in last few decades.

xDaunt, who accuses Obama for the lack of bipartisanship even when there are Republicans on record and quotes from their strategic documents delineating strategy whose only goal is to basically block everything they can without any actual wish for a compromise.

On June 18 2014 13:25 oneofthem wrote:
old testament is a bloody, genocidal and brutish piece of work.

On June 19 2014 02:20 Yoav wrote:


So shouldn't you be comparing Muslims and Jews? Christians believe as an article of faith that the OT represents a more primitive society with a poorer understanding of God.

On June 19 2014 00:45 xDaunt wrote:

The only one with broad conservative appeal and influence that comes to mind is Rush Limbaugh. Conservatives and the republican party in general are fairly headless right now. I suspect that that is going to change in the run up to the 2016 election. Then again, Romney never really assumed a leadership mantle, which is why he lost.

"Too many whites are getting away with drug use...Too many whites are getting away with drug sales...The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them, and send them up the river, too." --Rush Limbaugh, in 1995

"I am addicted to prescription pain medication." --Rush Limbaugh, in 2003

"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it." --Rush Limbaugh, Jan. 19, 2007

"Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society." --Rush Limbaugh

"We're not sexists, we're chauvinists -- we're male chauvinist pigs, and we're happy to be because we think that's what men were destined to be. We think that's what women want." --Rush Limbaugh

"She comes to me when she wants to be fed. And after I feed her -- guess what -- she's off to wherever she wants to be in the house, until the next time she gets hungry. She's smart enough to know she can't feed herself. She's actually a very smart cat. She gets loved. She gets adoration. She gets petted. She gets fed. And she doesn't have to do anything for it, which is why I say this cat's taught me more about women, than anything my whole life." --Rush Limbaugh, on his cat

"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." --Rush Limbaugh, on the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, May 3, 2010

"What better way to head off more oil drilling, nuclear plants, than by blowing up a rig? I'm just noting the timing, here." --Rush Limbaugh, suggesting that "environmentalist whackos" deliberately blew up the oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico that created one of the biggest environmental disasters in U.S. history to stop offshore oil drilling, April 29, 2010

"The phony soldiers." --Rush Limbaugh, on U.S. service members who support withdrawal from Iraq


Net neutrality would require that every search engine produce an equal number of results that satisfy every disagreement about [every] issue... Just think of it as Fairness Doctrine for the Internet. I'm not making this up.
On net neutrality, The Rush Limbaugh Show, March 16, 2010

“They’re out there protesting what they actually wish would happen to them sometimes.”
~Rush Limbaugh, on women who protest against sexual harassment, The Rush Limbaugh Show, April 26, 2004

“Exercise freaks … are the ones putting stress on the health care system.” ~Rush Limbaugh, accusing people who exercise of being the reason why health care costs are so high, June 12, 2009

So invasive species like mollusks and spermatozoa are not good, and we’ve got a federal judge say, “You can’t bring it in here,” but invasive species in the form of illegal immigration is fine and dandy — bring ‘em on, as many as possible, legalize them wherever we can, wherever they go, no matter what they clog up.

Let's see we have Rush sounding like a hypocritical moron about drugs, race relations, women, the environment, energy production, net neutrality, personal freedom, and immigration...

On June 19 2014 02:25 corumjhaelen wrote:

Some do, some don't, that's the problem. But his statement was stupid, because that's more or less what the old testament is, a collection of texts often contradictory written in a very specific context by different people who had different outlook on life.

Also I think someone put the thread on repeat for the last few pages :p

On June 19 2014 02:34 Paljas wrote:

how can a true statment, which is relevant to the discussion, be stupid?

On June 19 2014 02:32 Nyxisto wrote:
If xDaunt is right and this guy has "broad appeal and influence" then I guess your country is worse off than I thought

"We're not sexists, we're chauvinists -- we're male chauvinist pigs, and we're happy to be because we think that's what men were destined to be. We think that's what women want." --Rush Limbaugh

"She comes to me when she wants to be fed. And after I feed her -- guess what -- she's off to wherever she wants to be in the house, until the next time she gets hungry. She's smart enough to know she can't feed herself. She's actually a very smart cat. She gets loved. She gets adoration. She gets petted. She gets fed. And she doesn't have to do anything for it, which is why I say this cat's taught me more about women, than anything my whole life." --Rush Limbaugh, on his cat


“They’re out there protesting what they actually wish would happen to them sometimes.”
~Rush Limbaugh, on women who protest against sexual harassment, The Rush Limbaugh Show, April 26, 2004

On June 19 2014 02:43 xDaunt wrote:

He's retardedly misunderstood in large part because so much of what he says is taken out of context, a la GreenHorizon's post. But yes, he has more influence among conservatives than any politician right now. It's been that way since the Bush presidency. Obviously, it is problematic to have an entertainer who is paid to be provocative be the largest influence upon a political group. Though he communicates conservative ideals, he doesn't always do so in a way that is conducive to political discourse. That's not his fault, though. That's simply a reflection of how rudderless conservatives are.

On June 19 2014 02:50 GreenHorizons wrote:


Care to provide the context that makes those quotes sound less deranged? Or would you prefer to just state it as fact without any substantiation?

'Problematic' is quite the understatement if you ask me, but hey at least you see it as a problem...

This last part is just mind blowing....

If only we had given/give control to a "rudderless" conservative party we would be better off!

Like seriously how do you get there?

Conservatives can't run a party (find a credible leader or 'rudder'), and people like you want them to control the most powerful country on the planet?

Conservatives want more input on policy but they can't even find someone to represent it for them? Sounds pathetic, not inspiring.

On June 19 2014 01:41 Gorsameth wrote:

Sure ill bite.

I wonder how much of it is because of Obama himself and how much is the lack of action by the government caused by the gridlock in congress.

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On June 19 2014 02:45 Nyxisto wrote:


Please put this in a context in which is sounds less ridiculous. I think he's retardedly misunderstood because he's probably legitimately retarded. In every other civilized country this man wouldn't even get a job at a fast food restaurant.

On June 19 2014 02:59 JonnyBNoHo wrote:

I don't listen to him but I do think he trolls a lot.