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On June 19 2014 01:41 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 00:50 Nyxisto wrote:On June 19 2014 00:45 xDaunt wrote:On June 18 2014 11:45 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 18 2014 11:02 xDaunt wrote:On June 18 2014 09:28 coverpunch wrote:
Geez, is this the politics thread or the "convince me there's a vast right wing religious conspiracy" thread Given his posting history in this thread, the day that a real conservative religious zealot shows up around here will be one of the happier days in GreenHorizon's life. He will finally find real purpose on TeamLiquid! Aww that's cute xDaunt  If you were to identify 3 top conservative leaders who would they be? The only one with broad conservative appeal and influence that comes to mind is Rush Limbaugh. Conservatives and the republican party in general are fairly headless right now. I suspect that that is going to change in the run up to the 2016 election. Then again, Romney never really assumed a leadership mantle, which is why he lost. No, he lost because his party demanded unreasonable and stupid stuff. 2006 he signed a healthcare law that looks pretty much like Obamacare and was pretty successful . Then when he ran for president he was forced to please all the gop super-conservatives by talking nonsense 24/7. Once again we run into how things are viewed by the leftist, statist mindset, and how Romney struggled to motivate his base. He failed to even capture the turnout of even McCain/Palin in 2008, and that's with 4 years of Obama record to run on! His support of an ACA-lite undoubtably was part of that too, I'll hand you that. We're waiting for the conservative leader that will not pull punches to please media figures, and I hope that's in time for 2016. Someone that shows consistent leadership in the face of heavy opposition from beltway pundits and the political adviser class, not to mention his political opponent and smear campaign. Their ideas fail and have failed, so they are left calling their opponent's ideas "nonsense" because any examination of record dooms them.
lol was Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity's smear campaign not enough for you?
Please stop this persecution complex, you are part of one of the two major parties that run this country and much of the world. Once you start devoting all of your energy to supporting third party candidates, you can come back and talk about the bullshit that plagues American media.
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On June 19 2014 01:58 Nyxisto wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 01:41 Danglars wrote:On June 19 2014 00:50 Nyxisto wrote:On June 19 2014 00:45 xDaunt wrote:On June 18 2014 11:45 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 18 2014 11:02 xDaunt wrote:On June 18 2014 09:28 coverpunch wrote:
Geez, is this the politics thread or the "convince me there's a vast right wing religious conspiracy" thread Given his posting history in this thread, the day that a real conservative religious zealot shows up around here will be one of the happier days in GreenHorizon's life. He will finally find real purpose on TeamLiquid! Aww that's cute xDaunt If you were to identify 3 top conservative leaders who would they be? The only one with broad conservative appeal and influence that comes to mind is Rush Limbaugh. Conservatives and the republican party in general are fairly headless right now. I suspect that that is going to change in the run up to the 2016 election. Then again, Romney never really assumed a leadership mantle, which is why he lost. No, he lost because his party demanded unreasonable and stupid stuff. 2006 he signed a healthcare law that looks pretty much like Obamacare and was pretty successful . Then when he ran for president he was forced to please all the gop super-conservatives by talking nonsense 24/7. Once again we run into how things are viewed by the leftist, statist mindset, and how Romney struggled to motivate his base. He failed to even capture the turnout of even McCain/Palin in 2008, and that's with 4 years of Obama record to run on! His support of an ACA-lite undoubtably was part of that too, I'll hand you that. We're waiting for the conservative leader that will not pull punches to please media figures, and I hope that's in time for 2016. Someone that shows consistent leadership in the face of heavy opposition from beltway pundits and the political adviser class, not to mention his political opponent and smear campaign. Their ideas fail and have failed, so they are left calling their opponent's ideas "nonsense" because any examination of record dooms them. Smear campaigns, you gotta be kidding me. I don't remember the liberals questioning Mitt Romneys birth status or painting him as a Muslim communist. Also the GOP website at the moment titles "not another clinton in the house!" next to "buy George H.W Bushs colored sock collection!" (the most annoying dynasty that ever occupied the White House). Sounds to me like you want a mix of Ronald Reagan and Vladimir Putin as a leader. Great choice if you're white over 60 or a religious fanatic, not so great for the rest of the world.
He was anti-women war-on-women, had a binder of women. He was uncaring because he put his dog on the roof. Democrats don't fight with the gloves on, Republicans more and more do. You yourself are ready to paint conservative values as Vladimir Putin ... not exactly a shining example of issues-based opposition rather than smear-opposition. Like Reagan showed, and what the main thrust of my post was, is first you must oppose establishment mindset and project leadership, before you even confront your opponent and the lies he/she throws at you. It is a political tactic around 4 decades old or perhaps longer to label your opponent an extremist and hope it sticks with a constant media barrage.
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Some people and their divorce from reality.
Danglars and his imaginary shift to the left. Socially yes, economically America moved to the right, so did many other countries in last few decades.
xDaunt, who accuses Obama for the lack of bipartisanship even when there are Republicans on record and quotes from their strategic documents delineating strategy whose only goal is to basically block everything they can without any actual wish for a compromise.
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On June 19 2014 02:01 Shiragaku wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 01:41 Danglars wrote:On June 19 2014 00:50 Nyxisto wrote:On June 19 2014 00:45 xDaunt wrote:On June 18 2014 11:45 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 18 2014 11:02 xDaunt wrote:On June 18 2014 09:28 coverpunch wrote:
Geez, is this the politics thread or the "convince me there's a vast right wing religious conspiracy" thread Given his posting history in this thread, the day that a real conservative religious zealot shows up around here will be one of the happier days in GreenHorizon's life. He will finally find real purpose on TeamLiquid! Aww that's cute xDaunt If you were to identify 3 top conservative leaders who would they be? The only one with broad conservative appeal and influence that comes to mind is Rush Limbaugh. Conservatives and the republican party in general are fairly headless right now. I suspect that that is going to change in the run up to the 2016 election. Then again, Romney never really assumed a leadership mantle, which is why he lost. No, he lost because his party demanded unreasonable and stupid stuff. 2006 he signed a healthcare law that looks pretty much like Obamacare and was pretty successful . Then when he ran for president he was forced to please all the gop super-conservatives by talking nonsense 24/7. Once again we run into how things are viewed by the leftist, statist mindset, and how Romney struggled to motivate his base. He failed to even capture the turnout of even McCain/Palin in 2008, and that's with 4 years of Obama record to run on! His support of an ACA-lite undoubtably was part of that too, I'll hand you that. We're waiting for the conservative leader that will not pull punches to please media figures, and I hope that's in time for 2016. Someone that shows consistent leadership in the face of heavy opposition from beltway pundits and the political adviser class, not to mention his political opponent and smear campaign. Their ideas fail and have failed, so they are left calling their opponent's ideas "nonsense" because any examination of record dooms them. lol was Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity's smear campaign not enough for you? Please stop this persecution complex, you are part of one of the two major parties that run this country and much of the world. Once you start devoting all of your energy to supporting third party candidates, you can come back and talk about the bullshit that plagues American media.
I'm happy that you have your own views about the 2-party system and a solution for it. Perhaps you'd like to explain it instead of assert, if only in the spirit of debate! Now, if you'll read the post again ... or perhaps for the first time in its entirety ... I'm answering a charge that it was not Romney's leadership that lacked, it was unreasonable and stupid stuff and nonsense. I want a leader and ask for a leader in 2016 to lead with ideas and with arguments and with principled stands. His first priority is ignoring the kind of helpful advice that pervaded Romney & McCain's campaigns (however flawed the candidates themselves were) that doesn't motivate a base to support their candidate. The second point only comes later, because only after winning the primary and motivating the base will you ever confront your opponent. I think you choose to see Republicans with persecution complexes behind every rock, because my post focused on intra-party political campaigning philosophies, and you humorously want to enlarge one half of one sentence for your own purposes.
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On June 19 2014 02:05 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 01:58 Nyxisto wrote:On June 19 2014 01:41 Danglars wrote:On June 19 2014 00:50 Nyxisto wrote:On June 19 2014 00:45 xDaunt wrote:On June 18 2014 11:45 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 18 2014 11:02 xDaunt wrote:On June 18 2014 09:28 coverpunch wrote:
Geez, is this the politics thread or the "convince me there's a vast right wing religious conspiracy" thread Given his posting history in this thread, the day that a real conservative religious zealot shows up around here will be one of the happier days in GreenHorizon's life. He will finally find real purpose on TeamLiquid! Aww that's cute xDaunt If you were to identify 3 top conservative leaders who would they be? The only one with broad conservative appeal and influence that comes to mind is Rush Limbaugh. Conservatives and the republican party in general are fairly headless right now. I suspect that that is going to change in the run up to the 2016 election. Then again, Romney never really assumed a leadership mantle, which is why he lost. No, he lost because his party demanded unreasonable and stupid stuff. 2006 he signed a healthcare law that looks pretty much like Obamacare and was pretty successful . Then when he ran for president he was forced to please all the gop super-conservatives by talking nonsense 24/7. Once again we run into how things are viewed by the leftist, statist mindset, and how Romney struggled to motivate his base. He failed to even capture the turnout of even McCain/Palin in 2008, and that's with 4 years of Obama record to run on! His support of an ACA-lite undoubtably was part of that too, I'll hand you that. We're waiting for the conservative leader that will not pull punches to please media figures, and I hope that's in time for 2016. Someone that shows consistent leadership in the face of heavy opposition from beltway pundits and the political adviser class, not to mention his political opponent and smear campaign. Their ideas fail and have failed, so they are left calling their opponent's ideas "nonsense" because any examination of record dooms them. Smear campaigns, you gotta be kidding me. I don't remember the liberals questioning Mitt Romneys birth status or painting him as a Muslim communist. Also the GOP website at the moment titles "not another clinton in the house!" next to "buy George H.W Bushs colored sock collection!" (the most annoying dynasty that ever occupied the White House). Sounds to me like you want a mix of Ronald Reagan and Vladimir Putin as a leader. Great choice if you're white over 60 or a religious fanatic, not so great for the rest of the world. He was anti-women war-on-women, had a binder of women. He was uncaring because he put his dog on the roof. Democrats don't fight with the gloves on, Republicans more and more do. You yourself are ready to paint conservative values as Vladimir Putin ... not exactly a shining example of issues-based opposition rather than smear-opposition. Like Reagan showed, and what the main thrust of my post was, is first you must oppose establishment mindset and project leadership, before you even confront your opponent and the lies he/she throws at you. It is a political tactic around 4 decades old or perhaps longer to label your opponent an extremist and hope it sticks with a constant media barrage.
He actually did those things. Compared to Republican ads that were basically lies or at best false suggestions.
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I don't think it's an overstatement to say that the Republican party cares very little about women's and minority rights. It also shows in the party alignment by gender. If I remember correctly for women and men it was something along the lines of 40% to 25%. With black Americans and Hispanics it's even more extreme.
The American right is very close to political extremism, it isn't an exaggeration, it's just what they are.
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On June 19 2014 02:14 mcc wrote:
Some people and their divorce from reality.
Danglars and his imaginary shift to the left. Socially yes, economically America moved to the right, so did many other countries in last few decades.
xDaunt, who accuses Obama for the lack of bipartisanship even when there are Republicans on record and quotes from their strategic documents delineating strategy whose only goal is to basically block everything they can without any actual wish for a compromise.
Feel free to point all of the things that Obama has led on both domestically and abroad. The last time I asked this question, the sole listed accomplishment was hilariously insignificant.
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On June 18 2014 13:25 oneofthem wrote:
old testament is a bloody, genocidal and brutish piece of work.
So shouldn't you be comparing Muslims and Jews? Christians believe as an article of faith that the OT represents a more primitive society with a poorer understanding of God.
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Not that people won't do stupid/violent things in the name of any half-decent idea. I think history is a pretty good judge that no idea, no matter how noble, is immune from radicals who push for the idea in a tribal way that often ignores the good ideas they proclaim to fight for.
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On June 19 2014 02:20 Yoav wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 13:25 oneofthem wrote:
old testament is a bloody, genocidal and brutish piece of work. So shouldn't you be comparing Muslims and Jews? Christians believe as an article of faith that the OT represents a more primitive society with a poorer understanding of God.
Some do, some don't, that's the problem. But his statement was stupid, because that's more or less what the old testament is, a collection of texts often contradictory written in a very specific context by different people who had different outlook on life.
Also I think someone put the thread on repeat for the last few pages :p
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On June 19 2014 00:45 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 11:45 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 18 2014 11:02 xDaunt wrote:On June 18 2014 09:28 coverpunch wrote:
Geez, is this the politics thread or the "convince me there's a vast right wing religious conspiracy" thread Given his posting history in this thread, the day that a real conservative religious zealot shows up around here will be one of the happier days in GreenHorizon's life. He will finally find real purpose on TeamLiquid! Aww that's cute xDaunt If you were to identify 3 top conservative leaders who would they be? The only one with broad conservative appeal and influence that comes to mind is Rush Limbaugh. Conservatives and the republican party in general are fairly headless right now. I suspect that that is going to change in the run up to the 2016 election. Then again, Romney never really assumed a leadership mantle, which is why he lost.
Ok so conservatives don't really have any leadership. They have 0 political leaders you can identify. The only person you could identify as being close to being 'a conservative leader is Rush Limbaugh...
I suppose if you want a break from being reminded one of about 3 legs of the party are completely delusional(Creationists/Think Obama is a foreign Muslim terrorist), we can move on to the rank hypocrisy among conservatives about drugs?
Personal freedom is the conservatives paramour no? Well until it comes to poor people/non-prescription drugs right...?
You say conservatives only leader (or whatever you want to call him) is Rush Limbaugh and yet wonder why people think conservatives are widely chauvinistic, ignorant, fools?
Since you identified Rush as someone conservatives embrace let's take a quick stroll down memory lane with Rush...
"Too many whites are getting away with drug use...Too many whites are getting away with drug sales...The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them, and send them up the river, too." --Rush Limbaugh, in 1995
"I am addicted to prescription pain medication." --Rush Limbaugh, in 2003
"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it." --Rush Limbaugh, Jan. 19, 2007
"Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society." --Rush Limbaugh
"We're not sexists, we're chauvinists -- we're male chauvinist pigs, and we're happy to be because we think that's what men were destined to be. We think that's what women want." --Rush Limbaugh
"She comes to me when she wants to be fed. And after I feed her -- guess what -- she's off to wherever she wants to be in the house, until the next time she gets hungry. She's smart enough to know she can't feed herself. She's actually a very smart cat. She gets loved. She gets adoration. She gets petted. She gets fed. And she doesn't have to do anything for it, which is why I say this cat's taught me more about women, than anything my whole life." --Rush Limbaugh, on his cat
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." --Rush Limbaugh, on the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, May 3, 2010
"What better way to head off more oil drilling, nuclear plants, than by blowing up a rig? I'm just noting the timing, here." --Rush Limbaugh, suggesting that "environmentalist whackos" deliberately blew up the oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico that created one of the biggest environmental disasters in U.S. history to stop offshore oil drilling, April 29, 2010
"The phony soldiers." --Rush Limbaugh, on U.S. service members who support withdrawal from Iraq
Net neutrality would require that every search engine produce an equal number of results that satisfy every disagreement about [every] issue... Just think of it as Fairness Doctrine for the Internet. I'm not making this up.
On net neutrality, The Rush Limbaugh Show, March 16, 2010
“They’re out there protesting what they actually wish would happen to them sometimes.”
~Rush Limbaugh, on women who protest against sexual harassment, The Rush Limbaugh Show, April 26, 2004
“Exercise freaks … are the ones putting stress on the health care system.” ~Rush Limbaugh, accusing people who exercise of being the reason why health care costs are so high, June 12, 2009
So invasive species like mollusks and spermatozoa are not good, and we’ve got a federal judge say, “You can’t bring it in here,” but invasive species in the form of illegal immigration is fine and dandy — bring ‘em on, as many as possible, legalize them wherever we can, wherever they go, no matter what they clog up.
Let's see we have Rush sounding like a hypocritical moron about drugs, race relations, women, the environment, energy production, net neutrality, personal freedom, and immigration...
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There are plenty more where those came from. It is conservatives embrace of people like Rush, that makes reasonable people wary of conservatives.
I mean conservatives can say they do or don't support what he says but you and many others have identified Rush as a conservative 'leader' type and the most universally embraced conservative. Conservative policy seems to be guided by opinions similar or the same as Rush's. And the rhetoric is only distinguishable by it's bombastic nature, the essence is the same across many conservative politicians.
I don't know how someone could think Rush is the most universally embraced conservative figure and simultaneously wonder why people think conservatives are largely ignorant jerks?
EDIT:I desperately hope conservatives get what they are asking for. A candidate who just comes out and is proud of his misogynistic, homophobic, racist, delusional, etc... beliefs.
I hope they get their ideal candidate (even if they have no idea who it is/could be) at least then we could move past the same tired "we didn't win because we weren't conservative enough" BS. Then we could harp on how Fox News and Talk radio isn't enough media dominance to overcome the 'lamestream' media forces who elected our next Democratic president...
Blaming Obama for a lack of bipartisanship is patently delusional. Before his first year republicans made it clear they were far more focused on getting rid of Obama than even attempting to work with him. Republicans idea of negotiating was/is "give us everything we want and we will let you pass it. Otherwise if it is missing or contains just one thing we want/don't want we will fight tooth and nail to prevent it from passing, Americans be damned...."
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If xDaunt is right and this guy has "broad appeal and influence" then I guess your country is worse off than I thought
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On June 19 2014 02:25 corumjhaelen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 02:20 Yoav wrote:On June 18 2014 13:25 oneofthem wrote:
old testament is a bloody, genocidal and brutish piece of work. So shouldn't you be comparing Muslims and Jews? Christians believe as an article of faith that the OT represents a more primitive society with a poorer understanding of God. Some do, some don't, that's the problem. But his statement was stupid, because that's more or less what the old testament is, a collection of texts often contradictory written in a very specific context by different people who had different outlook on life. Also I think someone put the thread on repeat for the last few pages :p
how can a true statment, which is relevant to the discussion, be stupid?
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On June 19 2014 02:34 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 02:25 corumjhaelen wrote:On June 19 2014 02:20 Yoav wrote:On June 18 2014 13:25 oneofthem wrote:
old testament is a bloody, genocidal and brutish piece of work. So shouldn't you be comparing Muslims and Jews? Christians believe as an article of faith that the OT represents a more primitive society with a poorer understanding of God. Some do, some don't, that's the problem. But his statement was stupid, because that's more or less what the old testament is, a collection of texts often contradictory written in a very specific context by different people who had different outlook on life. Also I think someone put the thread on repeat for the last few pages :p how can a true statment, which is relevant to the discussion, be stupid?
It isn't true, you might want to open the Old Testament and read it yourself instead of relying on excerpt selected by new atheists.
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On June 19 2014 02:32 Nyxisto wrote:
If xDaunt is right and this guy has "broad appeal and influence" then I guess your country is worse off than I thought
He's retardedly misunderstood in large part because so much of what he says is taken out of context, a la GreenHorizon's post. But yes, he has more influence among conservatives than any politician right now. It's been that way since the Bush presidency. Obviously, it is problematic to have an entertainer who is paid to be provocative be the largest influence upon a political group. Though he communicates conservative ideals, he doesn't always do so in a way that is conducive to political discourse. That's not his fault, though. That's simply a reflection of how rudderless conservatives are.
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"We're not sexists, we're chauvinists -- we're male chauvinist pigs, and we're happy to be because we think that's what men were destined to be. We think that's what women want." --Rush Limbaugh
"She comes to me when she wants to be fed. And after I feed her -- guess what -- she's off to wherever she wants to be in the house, until the next time she gets hungry. She's smart enough to know she can't feed herself. She's actually a very smart cat. She gets loved. She gets adoration. She gets petted. She gets fed. And she doesn't have to do anything for it, which is why I say this cat's taught me more about women, than anything my whole life." --Rush Limbaugh, on his cat
“They’re out there protesting what they actually wish would happen to them sometimes.”
~Rush Limbaugh, on women who protest against sexual harassment, The Rush Limbaugh Show, April 26, 2004
Please put this in a context in which is sounds less ridiculous. I think he's retardedly misunderstood because he's probably legitimately retarded. In every other civilized country this man wouldn't even get a job at a fast food restaurant.
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On June 19 2014 02:43 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 02:32 Nyxisto wrote:
If xDaunt is right and this guy has "broad appeal and influence" then I guess your country is worse off than I thought He's retardedly misunderstood in large part because so much of what he says is taken out of context, a la GreenHorizon's post. But yes, he has more influence among conservatives than any politician right now. It's been that way since the Bush presidency. Obviously, it is problematic to have an entertainer who is paid to be provocative be the largest influence upon a political group. Though he communicates conservative ideals, he doesn't always do so in a way that is conducive to political discourse. That's not his fault, though. That's simply a reflection of how rudderless conservatives are.
Care to provide the context that makes those quotes sound less deranged? Or would you prefer to just state it as fact without any substantiation?
'Problematic' is quite the understatement if you ask me, but hey at least you see it as a problem...
This last part is just mind blowing....
If only we had given/give control to a "rudderless" conservative party we would be better off!
Like seriously how do you get there?
Conservatives can't run a party (find a credible leader or 'rudder'), and people like you want them to control the most powerful country on the planet?
Conservatives want more input on policy but they can't even find someone to represent it for them? Sounds pathetic, not inspiring.
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On June 19 2014 02:50 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 02:43 xDaunt wrote:On June 19 2014 02:32 Nyxisto wrote:
If xDaunt is right and this guy has "broad appeal and influence" then I guess your country is worse off than I thought He's retardedly misunderstood in large part because so much of what he says is taken out of context, a la GreenHorizon's post. But yes, he has more influence among conservatives than any politician right now. It's been that way since the Bush presidency. Obviously, it is problematic to have an entertainer who is paid to be provocative be the largest influence upon a political group. Though he communicates conservative ideals, he doesn't always do so in a way that is conducive to political discourse. That's not his fault, though. That's simply a reflection of how rudderless conservatives are. Care to provide the context that makes those quotes sound less deranged? Or would you prefer to just state it as fact without any substantiation? 'Problematic' is quite the understatement if you ask me, but hey at least you see it as a problem... This last part is just mind blowing.... If only we had given/give control to a "rudderless" conservative party we would be better off! Like seriously how do you get there? Conservatives can't run a party (find a credible leader or 'rudder'), and people like you want them to control the most powerful country on the planet? Conservatives want more input on policy but they can't even find someone to represent it for them? Sounds pathetic, not inspiring.
It's shit like this that always leads to me regret responding to your posts.
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On June 19 2014 01:41 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 01:37 xDaunt wrote:Time for the Obama Defense Force to mobilize: President Obama's approval rating has dropped to 41 percent, a majority of Americans disapprove of his handling of foreign policy issues, he has lost support from the Hispanic community and Americans actually think his administration is less competent than the Bush White House post-Hurricane Katrina, according to a new survey from the Wall Street Journal and NBC News.
In short, the poll is nothing but bad news for the president.
The survey would appear to be so bad, in fact, that NBC News' Chuck Todd said Tuesday that the poll basically means the public has declared the Obama presidency to be over.
"This poll is a disaster for the president," Todd said. "You look at the presidency here: Lowest job rating, tied for the lowest; lowest on foreign policy. His administration is seen as less competent than the Bush administration, post-Katrina."
"On the issue of do you believe he can still lead? A majority believe no. Essentially the public is saying your presidency is over," Todd added.
You can read more about the WSJ/NBC News poll here. Source. Sure ill bite. I wonder how much of it is because of Obama himself and how much is the lack of action by the government caused by the gridlock in congress.
Fair question and I imagine that's true to an extent. However, some of the criticism is deserved. The VA has been hit with new scandals and the VA has received large budget increases from Congress. Also, the patent office has been behaving pretty weird so far this year:
US Patent Office Grants 'Photography Against A White Background' Patent To Amazon source
U.S. Patent Office Cancels Redskins Trademark Registration source
They have the ability to spot and block a trademark that isn't politically correct but not the ability to block a patent that is obviously stupid as all fuck? Even after the White House has been supposedly trying to crack down on patent trolls for years now? I don't get it...
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On June 19 2014 02:45 Nyxisto wrote:Show nested quote +
"We're not sexists, we're chauvinists -- we're male chauvinist pigs, and we're happy to be because we think that's what men were destined to be. We think that's what women want." --Rush Limbaugh
"She comes to me when she wants to be fed. And after I feed her -- guess what -- she's off to wherever she wants to be in the house, until the next time she gets hungry. She's smart enough to know she can't feed herself. She's actually a very smart cat. She gets loved. She gets adoration. She gets petted. She gets fed. And she doesn't have to do anything for it, which is why I say this cat's taught me more about women, than anything my whole life." --Rush Limbaugh, on his cat
“They’re out there protesting what they actually wish would happen to them sometimes.”
~Rush Limbaugh, on women who protest against sexual harassment, The Rush Limbaugh Show, April 26, 2004
Please put this in a context in which is sounds less ridiculous. I think he's retardedly misunderstood because he's probably legitimately retarded. In every other civilized country this man wouldn't even get a job at a fast food restaurant.
I don't listen to him but I do think he trolls a lot.
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On June 19 2014 02:59 JonnyBNoHo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 02:45 Nyxisto wrote:
"We're not sexists, we're chauvinists -- we're male chauvinist pigs, and we're happy to be because we think that's what men were destined to be. We think that's what women want." --Rush Limbaugh
"She comes to me when she wants to be fed. And after I feed her -- guess what -- she's off to wherever she wants to be in the house, until the next time she gets hungry. She's smart enough to know she can't feed herself. She's actually a very smart cat. She gets loved. She gets adoration. She gets petted. She gets fed. And she doesn't have to do anything for it, which is why I say this cat's taught me more about women, than anything my whole life." --Rush Limbaugh, on his cat
“They’re out there protesting what they actually wish would happen to them sometimes.”
~Rush Limbaugh, on women who protest against sexual harassment, The Rush Limbaugh Show, April 26, 2004
Please put this in a context in which is sounds less ridiculous. I think he's retardedly misunderstood because he's probably legitimately retarded. In every other civilized country this man wouldn't even get a job at a fast food restaurant. I don't listen to him but I do think he trolls a lot.
After just complaining about trolling it seems this is you condemning Limbaugh for his alleged 'trolling'?
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