US Politics Mega-thread - Page 1120

On June 18 2014 09:28 coverpunch wrote:
Geez, is this the politics thread or the "convince me there's a vast right wing religious conspiracy" thread

On June 18 2014 11:02 xDaunt wrote:

Given his posting history in this thread, the day that a real conservative religious zealot shows up around here will be one of the happier days in GreenHorizon's life. He will finally find real purpose on TeamLiquid!

On June 18 2014 11:58 oneofthem wrote:
there's no conspiracy, but some sort of movement is certainly there to remake society according to sharia i mean biblical image

On June 18 2014 12:14 Nyxisto wrote:
Reminds me of this lawyer who beat his daugther up with a belt, it was all over the internet, and then the guy just ran for election anyway, because who gives a crap

On June 18 2014 11:02 xDaunt wrote:

Given his posting history in this thread, the day that a real conservative religious zealot shows up around here will be one of the happier days in GreenHorizon's life. He will finally find real purpose on TeamLiquid!

On June 18 2014 13:25 oneofthem wrote:
well both have elements of extremely brutal primitive society contained in the text. it's not that there is any christianity or islam, people take these things and do whatever with them. the radicals seek to revert to that kind of society and it absolutely is the same at that basic level. old testament is a bloody, genocidal and brutish piece of work.

On June 18 2014 13:30 xDaunt wrote:

Pointing out the similarities in the text as a basis for equating the two is asinine. You're not only ignoring centuries of divergent evolution between the two faiths, but you're ignoring the obvious difference in present day manifestations of the two faiths. Even Bill Maher understands this.

On June 18 2014 13:30 xDaunt wrote:

Pointing out the similarities in the text as a basis for equating the two is asinine. You're not only ignoring centuries of divergent evolution between the two faiths, but you're ignoring the obvious difference in present day manifestations of the two faiths. Even Bill Maher understands this.

On June 18 2014 13:13 Danglars wrote:
We had a guy (CA State Senator) out on bail for the Federal indictment of gun running that had dropped out of the race a while ago. The large and heavily publicized scandal made him drop out of the race, but not soon enough to have his name also removed from the ballot. He was still voted for by 287,590 citizens. Facepalm moment.

When somebody comes in here saying he's a young-earth Creationist wanting Creationism taught in Public Schools, I want a picture of Horizen's face of glee. He's been preparing for that moment all of his life, whether or not he realizes it now.

American Christian missionaries have declared a "war for souls" in Iraq, telling supporters that the formal end of the US-led occupation next June will close an historic "window of opportunity".

Organising in secrecy, and emphasising their humanitarian aid work, Christian groups are pouring into the country, which is 97 per cent Muslim, bearing Arabic Bibles, videos and religious tracts designed to "save" Muslims from their "false" religion.
The International Mission Board, the missionary arm of the Southern Baptists, is one of those leading the charge.

John Brady, the IMB's head for the Middle East and North Africa, this month appealed to the 16 million members of his church, the largest Protestant denomination in America.

"Southern Baptists have prayed for years that Iraq would somehow be opened to the gospel," his appeal began. That "open door" for Christians may soon close.

"Southern Baptists must understand that there is a war for souls under way in Iraq," his bulletin added, listing Islamic leaders and "pseudo-Christian" groups also flooding Iraq as his chief rivals.

The missionaries are mainly evangelicals who reject talk of Muslims and Christians worshipping the same God.

On June 18 2014 13:36 oneofthem wrote:

i've not made any such equivocation. i've in fact said your entire framing of comparing christian to islam is offbase, because of these developments as you've said. it's not a score keeping game.

we have two religions that developed from very primitive sources with incredibly bad ideas. there is potential in both to be absolutely monstrous. therefore, it's a good idea to keep them from being monstrous through radicalization.

On June 18 2014 13:32 Nyxisto wrote:


Well just because it's not as bad as in Sudan doesn't mean it isn't worthy of discussion. The amount of evangelical radicalism in the US under the disguise of tolerance or free speech is scary.

On June 18 2014 13:48 xDaunt wrote:

To whatever extent you aren't making the argument, you sure are supporting it, if not endorsing it, with your posts. This latest post included.

On June 18 2014 14:00 zlefin wrote:
Have the religions gotten better/worse, or have the societies they are in gotten better/worse?

It seems more like the latter to me. Looking at each of them at different points in time; it looks quite like two different manifestations of the same thing; they're just at different stages in different times.

well both have elements of extremely brutal primitive society contained in the text. it's not that there is any christianity or islam, people take these things and do whatever with them. the radicals seek to revert to that kind of society and it absolutely is the same at that basic level. old testament is a bloody, genocidal and brutish piece of work.

Pointing out the similarities in the text as a basis for equating the two is asinine. You're not only ignoring centuries of divergent evolution between the two faiths, but you're ignoring the obvious difference in present day manifestations of the two faiths. Even Bill Maher understands this.

Well just because it's not as bad as in Sudan doesn't mean it isn't worthy of discussion. The amount of evangelical radicalism in the US under the disguise of tolerance or free speech is scary.

Honest discussion is one thing. Intellectual dishonesty and bigotry are entirely different.