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sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
September 04 2012 04:46 GMT
#1701
On September 04 2012 13:42 SgtCoDFish wrote:
The select army thing is possibly the most fake thing I've ever seen.

I'll believe it when I see it.


You can download the client and try it out yourself. It's pretty simple.

The icon is a placeholder I imagine, but the button itself is fully functional.
최지성 Bomber || 김동환 viOLet || 고병재 GuMiho
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
September 04 2012 04:46 GMT
#1702
I know masters league players who dont hotkey anything and have units lost all over the map. This kind of change is bad for the game imo, but it won't affect pro play.
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L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 04:47:18
September 04 2012 04:47 GMT
#1703
On September 04 2012 13:40 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 13:35 AndAgain wrote:
On September 04 2012 13:25 sevia wrote:
New button I just noticed on the interface - "Select army units", placed where the "Select idle workers" button used to be (which is now on the left side).

Does pretty much exactly what you expect it to.

[image loading]


Btw, this now makes it easier to add units to your control group. Anytime units pop, you select your whole army and add to to a control group. Without this, you have to switch screens to add the new units.


seriously, this means nothing. It wont actually impact any one above bronze.


Everyone is gonna use it. It means you no longer have to look at ur rally. Well as zerg u could just select the eggs to make it easy anyway but this is even easier.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
September 04 2012 04:48 GMT
#1704
On September 04 2012 13:46 sevia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 13:42 SgtCoDFish wrote:
The select army thing is possibly the most fake thing I've ever seen.

I'll believe it when I see it.


You can download the client and try it out yourself. It's pretty simple.

The icon is a placeholder I imagine, but the button itself is fully functional.


I'm not necc. calling you a liar, but the way the image is presented just screams "fake"

Again, I'll believe it when I see it or someone does an actual screenshot of it without cutting it up.
grindC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany274 Posts
September 04 2012 04:48 GMT
#1705
On September 04 2012 13:36 SupItsG wrote:
Okay guys I know this is really scary stuff but maybe it's campaign only? Maybe.


Everyone listen to this man please. Jesus.
CaptainTwig
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom532 Posts
September 04 2012 04:50 GMT
#1706
On September 04 2012 13:36 SupItsG wrote:
Okay guys I know this is really scary stuff but maybe it's campaign only? Maybe.


I really want this to be true.
guys... I'm scared. ;_;
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 04 2012 04:50 GMT
#1707
On September 04 2012 13:44 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +

Btw, this now makes it easier to add units to your control group. Anytime units pop, you select your whole army and add to to a control group. Without this, you have to switch screens to add the new units.


To your CONTROL GROUP.

Group, not GROUPS, this kind of change actuly has the potential to LOWER the average army control in the game :/


good, that means that the better players will stand out more
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
September 04 2012 04:51 GMT
#1708
On September 04 2012 13:46 oOOoOphidian wrote:
I know masters league players who dont hotkey anything and have units lost all over the map. This kind of change is bad for the game imo, but it won't affect pro play.

why would they be so stupid @_@
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Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
September 04 2012 04:53 GMT
#1709
On September 04 2012 13:29 BlackPanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 13:25 sevia wrote:
New button I just noticed on the interface - "Select army units", placed where the "Select idle workers" button used to be (which is now on the left side).

Does pretty much exactly what you expect it to.

[image loading]


This is starting to scare me. I'm all for making the user interface as easy and simple to use as possible but giving the players extremely simple controls is NOT good for competitive play.

Do you REALLY think this is going to make a difference in competitive play? Top tier players already have distinct control groups for different types of units, they're not just gonna start "1+A"ing just because a new button has been introduced to the UI.

People are being really ridiculous about a lot of these new gameplay changes. They help the lower leagues out as they focus on other aspects of the game. It won't make a difference to the people at the top.
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PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
September 04 2012 04:53 GMT
#1710
Welp, more dumbing down/casualization, just in case I needed any more reasons not to buy hots or support blizzard in any way.

They are definitely not the same company, I never heard all of this "our more casual players need baby sitting day in and day out" talk before the activision merger.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 04 2012 04:53 GMT
#1711
So I have two accounts.

When I logged into one of them, it links me directly to download HotS beta client.
The other one just goes to good old battle.net account details.

I'm now pretty certain that if/when you log in, and get redirected to download client, it means you will be receiving a beta key shortly!
moo...for DRG
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10063 Posts
September 04 2012 04:54 GMT
#1712
sry didnt read through the thread, has blizzard sent out any beta keys yet?
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oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
September 04 2012 04:55 GMT
#1713
On September 04 2012 13:53 PlosionCornu wrote:
Welp, more dumbing down/casualization, just in case I needed any more reasons not to buy hots or support blizzard in any way.

They are definitely not the same company, I never heard all of this "our more casual players need baby sitting day in and day out" talk before the activision merger.


The changes don't affect high level/pro play in the slightest. How in the world is it a bad thing to help ease new players into the game? Any change that doesn't affect high level play but helps newbies is good for the long-term health of SC2.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2781 Posts
September 04 2012 04:56 GMT
#1714
On September 04 2012 13:53 neoghaleon55 wrote:
So I have two accounts.

When I logged into one of them, it links me directly to download HotS beta client.
The other one just goes to good old battle.net account details.

I'm now pretty certain that if/when you log in, and get redirected to download client, it means you will be receiving a beta key shortly!


Wow. No fair.

I am going to make sure that my second account is opted in.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
September 04 2012 04:58 GMT
#1715
On September 04 2012 13:55 oxxo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 13:53 PlosionCornu wrote:
Welp, more dumbing down/casualization, just in case I needed any more reasons not to buy hots or support blizzard in any way.

They are definitely not the same company, I never heard all of this "our more casual players need baby sitting day in and day out" talk before the activision merger.


The changes don't affect high level/pro play in the slightest. How in the world is it a bad thing to help ease new players into the game? Any change that doesn't affect high level play but helps newbies is good for the long-term health of SC2.


So I guess you also want auto worker produce and that sort of thing to be in the game.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
CreatureSC2
Profile Joined July 2010
United States156 Posts
September 04 2012 04:58 GMT
#1716
On September 04 2012 13:54 ROOTT1 wrote:
sry didnt read through the thread, has blizzard sent out any beta keys yet?


Nobody has posted any screen shots of them saying they got beta keys. But since you're ROOTT1 you'll probably be the first to know.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
September 04 2012 04:59 GMT
#1717
On September 04 2012 13:40 avilo wrote:
Wait what? I thought they wanted to do things to get rid of the deathball? Adding an idle army button is another way to dumb down the game further and encourages you to just gather up your units...

An FYI, command and conquer has "global select" all units, this is a command and conquer feature meant for "noobs." I doubt pros will use it very often, but still...it's going the wrong direction imo. We will see.

Just because the feature exists, doesn't mean it will encourage the skill ceiling to be lowered.
sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
September 04 2012 05:00 GMT
#1718
On September 04 2012 13:48 SgtCoDFish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 13:46 sevia wrote:
On September 04 2012 13:42 SgtCoDFish wrote:
The select army thing is possibly the most fake thing I've ever seen.

I'll believe it when I see it.


You can download the client and try it out yourself. It's pretty simple.

The icon is a placeholder I imagine, but the button itself is fully functional.


I'm not necc. calling you a liar, but the way the image is presented just screams "fake"

Again, I'll believe it when I see it or someone does an actual screenshot of it without cutting it up.


Here you go. It's in spoiler, the reason I cut up the first image was so people could see detail without having to open in a new tab.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
최지성 Bomber || 김동환 viOLet || 고병재 GuMiho
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
September 04 2012 05:00 GMT
#1719
On September 04 2012 13:55 oxxo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 13:53 PlosionCornu wrote:
Welp, more dumbing down/casualization, just in case I needed any more reasons not to buy hots or support blizzard in any way.

They are definitely not the same company, I never heard all of this "our more casual players need baby sitting day in and day out" talk before the activision merger.


The changes don't affect high level/pro play in the slightest. How in the world is it a bad thing to help ease new players into the game? Any change that doesn't affect high level play but helps newbies is good for the long-term health of SC2.


"It does not affect you! Stop being so entitled".

Yeah, see how well that worked out for a lot of other games. No sir, I won't support them anymore, you are free to do as you please, of course.
attackmoveftw
Profile Joined August 2012
45 Posts
September 04 2012 05:00 GMT
#1720
On September 04 2012 13:53 Dox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 13:29 BlackPanther wrote:
On September 04 2012 13:25 sevia wrote:
New button I just noticed on the interface - "Select army units", placed where the "Select idle workers" button used to be (which is now on the left side).

Does pretty much exactly what you expect it to.

[image loading]


This is starting to scare me. I'm all for making the user interface as easy and simple to use as possible but giving the players extremely simple controls is NOT good for competitive play.

Do you REALLY think this is going to make a difference in competitive play? Top tier players already have distinct control groups for different types of units, they're not just gonna start "1+A"ing just because a new button has been introduced to the UI.

People are being really ridiculous about a lot of these new gameplay changes. They help the lower leagues out as they focus on other aspects of the game. It won't make a difference to the people at the top.


No, it means they WANT people to make attack-move deathballs. In other words, they encourage and design units around this type of play. If it were not so, Blizzard ends up in the same conundrum. Imagine a casual bronze dude get punished because he made a deathball, "WAAAAAAAAAAH, this game is too hard, I go back to LoL!!!".

The continual dumbing down of the game means Blizzard will do everything to make the game deathball friendly.
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