EPTStop the Korean Invasion! - Page 23
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sickle
New Zealand656 Posts
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Geo.Rion
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hoop1
Spain242 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
How does MLG ever want to present their product to a larger audience if its all about Random Korean 1 who likes noodles and plays all day against Random Korean 2 who likes noodles and plays all day? Noodles? | ||
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bri9and
United States246 Posts
I like watching my favorite players play, and win.. I like foreign players, but if I had to choose, I'd rather see top notch players go at it.. if they happen to be from Korea, so be it. Wanting a good "mix" means that the quality of competition will be hampered from day one. You want your "foreign" player to win? Root for him, he just might. | ||
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zedi
165 Posts
On June 06 2012 23:25 DarkLordOlli wrote: Then I guess you don't care much about the game. Watch WWE instead, it seems to be what you want - arranged, personality focused drama. The best part about that is that this actually will happen (not with WWE though, they're already going down) and it's your loss. | ||
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frogrubdown
1266 Posts
On June 06 2012 23:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: That's not remotely what is happening. And Stephano is the best any foreigner has been in relation to Koreans since 2010/very, very early 2011. I'm going to assume you're just misremembering the dates of Stephano's big victories (IPL 3 wasn't until October 2011). How was Stephano the best foreigner during a period in which he wasn't winning anything important and Idra, Jinro, Thorzain, Huk and Naniwa were all enjoying vastly more success (ordered very roughly in terms of when they saw their success during the period you're talking about)? | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 06 2012 23:27 sickle wrote: Its pretty bullshit that at a foreign event, out of the 16 invites, 13 of them are Koreans. Of course the NA scene wont grow when there are no opportunities for their own players. Those " invites " qualified through the Spring Arena's and they qualified for the Spring Arena's through online qualifiers, NO ONE was invited. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On June 06 2012 23:28 frogrubdown wrote: I'm going to assume you're just misremembering the dates of Stephano's big victories (IPL 3 wasn't until October 2011). How was Stephano the best foreigner during a period in which he wasn't winning anything important and Idra, Jinro, Thorzain, Huk and Naniwa were all enjoying vastly more success (ordered very roughly in terms of when they saw their success during the period you're talking about)? That's not at all what I said. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On June 06 2012 23:27 sickle wrote: Its pretty bullshit that at a foreign event, out of the 16 invites, 13 of them are Koreans. Of course the NA scene wont grow when there are no opportunities for their own players. None of the 16 players are invited. | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
On June 06 2012 23:22 zedi wrote: Terrible, terrible post. Because that's just boring - nothing interesting to root for. There's plenty interesting to root for! Just because YOU don't find any of the korean players to be interesting, doesn't mean everybody does! Besides, it creates awesome storylines where you have the underdog foreigners who need to push through the open bracket play to get into the main tournament! It's fun to see who makes it through and who drops out! At least, for me. Regardless of viewership concerns, I'm more concerned with the level of gameplay. If the tournament is banning players because they're too good, as far as I'm concerned (and I'm certain I'm not the only one), the integrity of the competition is completely and utterly thrown out the window in favour of getting players who are "more interesting". What I think needs to happen, is that korean teams need to market their players and brand in the west more heavily, so that the average viewer can be more connected to those players. As it is, there isn't nearly as much korean influence in our market as the western teams have at the moment, and while that's pretty natural, it's a situation that can be changed (for the better). | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On June 06 2012 23:28 zedi wrote: The best part about that is that this actually will happen (not with WWE though, they're already going down) and it's your loss. It's our loss that we want to see a game focused on skill rather than on seeing more white people? I don't know about you, but I'd be more likely to stop watching if the latter occurred. | ||
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frogrubdown
1266 Posts
Oh, that's what you meant. edit: You do see that what you said is ambiguous though, right? It can also mean that since 2010, Stephano has been the best of any foreigner in relation to Koreans. English quite generally exhibits this kind of structural ambiguity with optional clauses. | ||
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fcb10
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Domus
510 Posts
I think that MLG will facilitate this at some point in the future, but you can expect it to be PPV (not a problem for many, right?). | ||
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Chilling5pr33
Germany518 Posts
On June 06 2012 23:26 BoxingKangaroo wrote: Lol, nice. I asked for his criteria of success specifically because length of time isn't a great indicator. But you'd be hard pressed to argue the Asian Cup isn't successful anyway. Everyone should watch what they want to watch. How about a cup of only your frieds and relatives. Well that wont attract too much viewers would it? That Asians like to watch Asians is fine for me that US only want to watch US and EU to watch EU is fine for me as well. As long as there are enough who want to see what MLG does deliver (top level play regardless of skin color and home nation) im fine with all of that. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
You guys who don't like Koreans do realize that the Blue Stream, the second free stream, will be almost 100% US Nationals, right? So if you don't want to watch Koreans and just Americans battle it out, watch that all weekend and tune in to see Stephano when his games are on the main stage. | ||
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sickle
New Zealand656 Posts
On June 06 2012 23:29 Dodgin wrote: Those " invites " qualified through the Spring Arena's and they qualified for the Spring Arena's through online qualifiers, NO ONE was invited. Was expecting this reply. Throughout the last few MLG season they have been inviting more and more koreans into pool play until now, the entire tourny is 90% korean. Or are you telling me that every single korean came to MLG on his own, and went through the open quailifers on his own. I know a few did, but most were invited and seeded. | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On June 06 2012 23:28 zedi wrote: The best part about that is that this actually will happen (not with WWE though, they're already going down) and it's your loss. What. Btw, Koreans have been coming to tournaments for quite some time now. The scene hasn't stopped growing since then. When DRG and Genius battled it out the GSL stream flipped its shit so hard that I missed the entire first game. Why? Because so many people wanted to see the best of the best. How often do MLG streams crash for that reason? | ||
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Purple Haze
United Kingdom200 Posts
On June 06 2012 23:28 frogrubdown wrote: I'm going to assume you're just misremembering the dates of Stephano's big victories (IPL 3 wasn't until October 2011). How was Stephano the best foreigner during a period in which he wasn't winning anything important and Idra, Jinro, Thorzain, Huk and Naniwa were all enjoying vastly more success (ordered very roughly in terms of when they saw their success during the period you're talking about)? He's saying that Stephano now is closer to Korean levels than any foreigner has been since those days, when HuK, Jinro, IdrA etc. were competitive in the GSL. | ||
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