EPTGSTL controversy [Spoiler alert] - Page 3
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Seldentar
United States888 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On April 08 2012 22:23 [F_]aths wrote: LAN isn't really the answer here. Game saving would solve both internet and LAN disconnect issues. Game saving seems like a good compromise since LAN will never happen in sc2 and will fade from most games going forward. | ||
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Soma.bokforlag
Sweden448 Posts
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
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DidYuhim
Ukraine1905 Posts
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Ryncol
United States980 Posts
On April 08 2012 22:33 mrlie3 wrote: Completely agreed with his argument. If it was any other players, I would give PartinG a win, but this is MKP we are talking about, and I have seen time and time again when he would pull a comeback in an impossible situation, and last night's situation was easily one of those. I agree with it as well. Parting had a huge advantage would probably have won, but it wasn't set in stone. MKP was mining from at least three bases and most of his infrastructure was still intact... only three of his barracks on the low ground were being camped. Crazier comebacks have happened. Parting could've made a mistake. It doesn't take much to lose gateway units to stimmed 3/3 bio. | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
On April 08 2012 22:50 DidYuhim wrote: Even without any forward pylons, PartinG had his warp-ins ready and he was 40 army supply ahead. Ye, certainly MarineKing is a good player, but I don't think it was doable. Even if MarineKing fends off that attack, he will have to fend off double supply of protoss army with terran army. It's just a clear "no". PartinG's army was scattered, not all in one place, his HT where at home and it would have taken an eternity to cross the map. PartinG's Warp Prism was out of position in MKP's base, ready to be sniped by vikings (5 of them with upgrades 1 shot WPs). Even if the it wasn't out of position he didn't have enough stalkers at the front line to defend the WP if MKP wanted to snipe it. Lastly PartinG was forced to go up a choke, into a ramp, defended and repaired by SCV's plus his army about to pop. And lastly PartinG didn't have neither the resources or the warp ins to use the prism right away. MKP's odds where much, much better then people make them out to be. I'm not saying he would have won, but it isn't totally inconceivable either, so the rematch was justified. | ||
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BeeNu
615 Posts
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Candadar
2049 Posts
The question shouldn't be whether a remake was in order or who had the better army, the question should be why this shit is still happening and why Blizzard hasn't taken means to fix it. | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
do we really need to have this discussion in a new topic again? I feel like I've said the same thing about 10-15 times already in the LR topic to disprove most of what was said anyways. ~~ | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
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An2quamaraN
Poland379 Posts
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On April 08 2012 23:05 An2quamaraN wrote: People forget that there was a warp prism in MKP's main. Therefore everything that would have popped out from those barracks would have died. There was no reinforcments of MKP to speak of. people also forget there are 6 vikings that could've easily taken out the warp prism and that parting at the time of the screenshot only has 200/500, and probably wouldn't warp in a ton of ht's in the opponent's base with no energy to storm also wouldn't warp in 2 zealots to derp around whereas mkp has a ton of barracks other than the 3 forward barracks. Can people stop re-introducing the same arguments Over and Over and Over again? | ||
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Gandhi
United States78 Posts
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
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Meaph
Germany53 Posts
And I also think they made a right point saying if there is a slight chance of winning the game by the player whos behind it has to be the regame. For me it seems the only right decision to make after watching the vod like 6 times now  | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6169 Posts
Seriously, though, it's a silly argument to get into - With these two players, it could still have gone either way at the time of the DC, even though it appeared that PartinG had the better of that engagement. We don't, and can't, know how the rest of the game would have played out. The players didn't have a say in the decision - it was up to the GOM referees, and they decided the way they did. I assure you that Mr. Chae probably spoke with Mr. Browder quite... emphatically... about the DC at that time, and probably will again. Best part of the DC? The guy with the "Dustin Browder is here, get your pitchforks" sign. Edit: + Show Spoiler + THIS GUY: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L6sqQ.jpg) | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On April 08 2012 23:02 Destructicon wrote: PartinG's army was scattered, not all in one place, his HT where at home and it would have taken an eternity to cross the map. PartinG's Warp Prism was out of position in MKP's base, ready to be sniped by vikings (5 of them with upgrades 1 shot WPs). Even if the it wasn't out of position he didn't have enough stalkers at the front line to defend the WP if MKP wanted to snipe it. Lastly PartinG was forced to go up a choke, into a ramp, defended and repaired by SCV's plus his army about to pop. And lastly PartinG didn't have neither the resources or the warp ins to use the prism right away. MKP's odds where much, much better then people make them out to be. I'm not saying he would have won, but it isn't totally inconceivable either, so the rematch was justified. On April 08 2012 23:08 zhurai wrote: people also forget there are 6 vikings that could've easily taken out the warp prism and that parting at the time of the screenshot only has 200/500, and probably wouldn't warp in a ton of ht's in the opponent's base with no energy to storm also wouldn't warp in 2 zealots to derp around whereas mkp has a ton of barracks other than the 3 forward barracks. Can people stop re-introducing the same arguments Over and Over and Over again? Most of those vikings were close to the 3 forward rax and were not in range of the warp prism. They were also being shot at by stalkers when MKP dropped. MKP had 21 food in production and that's counting whatever he was making in the rax Parting was camping, so no huge reinforcement was about to happen. It wasn't a clear cut 100% loss for MKP but i feel like some people here exaggerate MKPs production or ignore some of the more subtle things Parting had in his favor. | ||
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eSen1a
Australia1058 Posts
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Shiori
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