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THIS MY FRIEND!! http://i.imgur.com/IuHuA.jpg
this will remain in history for EVER as being the most stupid , the most biased decision gs(t)l made .
mkp you are a good player but if you ever read this , you are a pice of @#$% as a person . you know you lost dont remake .
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People that think their opinion is more important than everyone else's so they have to make a new thread. Go and post in the LR, the discussion is in there.
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On April 08 2012 21:31 Clogon wrote:
MKP had 2 vikings, 6~8 Marauders and 6~8 marines in production vs 7 zelots and 2 stalkers and a warp prism. All of Partings other units were at his main with no foward pylons.
How could he possibly have that in production at that moment when the food difference between what he had out (89 food) and what showed on the overlay (110 food) was only 21. If what you're saying is right it would have been 22-28 food. Remember that some of those units were being produced in the rax that were camped and would have died instantly, and vikings wouldn't have helped at all.
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They should have done a regame with Parting getting map choice imo. The game wasn't over, but anyone in their right mind can tell you Parting had a large advantage.
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It was like 80% chance of winning for Parting. That seemed to have not been enough for the jury. End of story.
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I'm really pissed off. Parting played so much better than MKP. He was camping the production and had a warpprism in MKP's main. Maybe im biased as i am a ST fan but to me, this decision was one of the more retarded in the history of starcraft.
On April 08 2012 22:17 xsnac wrote:THIS MY FRIEND!! http://i.imgur.com/IuHuA.jpgthis will remain in history for EVER as being the most stupid , the most biased decision gs(t)l made . mkp you are a good player but if you ever read this , you are a pice of @#$% as a person . you know you lost dont remake .
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On April 08 2012 21:48 aka_star wrote: If Dustin still holds on to the point of no LAN or tournament mode then god help blizzard. It was so disappointing to see the DC. The only counter argument is that LoL requires internet therefore SC2 should be fine but in reality its an issue that could be avoided and one that has come up before LAN isn't really the answer here. Game saving would solve both internet and LAN disconnect issues.
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On April 08 2012 22:17 xsnac wrote:THIS MY FRIEND!! http://i.imgur.com/IuHuA.jpgthis will remain in history for EVER as being the most stupid , the most biased decision gs(t)l made . mkp you are a good player but if you ever read this , you are a pice of @#$% as a person . you know you lost dont remake .
People like this need to be banned. MKP had nothing to do with the decision, and anyone who is in that situation in competitive tournaments (believe me, I know I've been there with questionable pad shit in $10,000 ITG/DDR tournaments from personal experience) know to keep their mouths shut and let the refs decide. In a well run tournament the player will NEVER have to make that sort of decision in any sport as it puts an unreasonable burden on them from both sides of the spectrum.
That's exactly what happened. I personally would have let Parting have map choice or make it a BO3 with parting up 1, but it wasn't my call to make, and it sure as hell wasn't MKPs. Your entire career is on the line, you play your heart out to do what it takes and he showed an amazing 4 (and a half) world class games.
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On April 08 2012 22:17 xsnac wrote: mkp you are a good player but if you ever read this , you are a pice of @#$% as a person . you know you lost dont remake . To be honest I think your statement tells us more about you than it does about MKP.
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You're right, it wasn't completely over. But I'd say Parting had a huge advantage (maybe let's say 90% sure he would go on to win); so the decision is questionable at least. But the other option, giving the win directly to Parting would be questionable as well, so the whole situation sucks. Blizzard's to blame here, give us LAN already.
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On April 08 2012 21:31 Clogon wrote:
MKP had 2 vikings, 6~8 Marauders and 6~8 marines in production vs 7 zelots and 2 stalkers and a warp prism. All of Partings other units were at his main with no foward pylons.
Edit: Misread, sorry.
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So if MKP had dropped 5mins earlier when he was ahead he should've been awarded the winner? Hard decision by the admins...
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On April 08 2012 22:05 Destructicon wrote: I said it once but I'll say it again, MKP's situation was far from a clear defeat.
PartinG was scattered, he had a minimum of units attacking MKP's base. PartinG was forced to warp units at home because he didn't have a forward pylon, while MKP's production was about to pop.
PartinG had his Warp Prism out of position in MKP's nat or main, I saw go up there in the heat of battle. It would have been sniped by vikings quickly, and even if he relocated he couldn't defend it from 6 vikings with so few stalkers actually close by. PartinG couldn't even warp into MKP's base because he for one had minimum resources and then he had use his warp cycles.
PartinG didn't have his HT with his army and his army was scattered, some in the middle going towards MKP, some in his base.
MKP had the superior position, he was on high ground, with a wall, with SCVs to be pulled to mass repair and slow the zealots.
PartinG's zealots would have worked against him trying to fight up ramps and in chokes, if he would have comited to a frontal assault he would have been wiped out, he had to wait for his reinforcements, which would have bought MKP even more time to regroup.
MKP could afford to sack some SCV's because he still had the backing of MULEs from 5 orbitals.
Now, if PartinG was in the main base, with all of his army, with his Gates ready to warp in and with a Prism right there, I would absolutely say PartinG would have won. But matter of fact, PartinG had none of those advantages. MKP's situation was grim, but he was far from out and he had pulled comebacks from worst.
Completely agreed with his argument. If it was any other players, I would give PartinG a win, but this is MKP we are talking about, and I have seen time and time again when he would pull a comeback in an impossible situation, and last night's situation was easily one of those.
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On April 08 2012 22:17 xsnac wrote:THIS MY FRIEND!! http://i.imgur.com/IuHuA.jpgthis will remain in history for EVER as being the most stupid , the most biased decision gs(t)l made . mkp you are a good player but if you ever read this , you are a pice of @#$% as a person . you know you lost dont remake . Yea because MKP had a say in the decision...
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I think the biggest issue with the regame is that MKP had no medivacs. No medivacs against an army camping your production is just about impossible. Especially against a player of partings skill. If he still had like 6 medivacs kicking around then its a different story, but even MKP can't micro forever without their healing.
Ultimately they needed to regame because the game wasn't 100% conclusive, but on the other hand it would have taken a miracle for parting to lose. Someone else in the thread had a good solution with a Bo3 with parting being up 1-0. I think that would have been a fair compromise instead of just stealing partings well fought victory away. It's a shame he has nothing to show for that gem of a game.
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Fanboy to the max.
PS : Bans will be issued if you aren't careful.
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Another screenshot of the ressource collection rate:
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It was clear Parting had the game...
The re-game basically ruined what could have been a great final...
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I think the standard should be though that if the person has to totally pull off a big 'comeback' from a very disadvantageous position, then it's a Loss.
Think of a Baseball game or something, if it rains and 5 innings are played, game is over. Obviously the other team could comeback...but if there is a very clear advantage, I don't think it should have to be a 99.9% decisive advantage to call it.
i think if you can look at it and say like, 80-90% of the time this game is lost, that should be fine. and it was definitely in that position.
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On April 08 2012 22:17 xsnac wrote:THIS MY FRIEND!! http://i.imgur.com/IuHuA.jpgthis will remain in history for EVER as being the most stupid , the most biased decision gs(t)l made . mkp you are a good player but if you ever read this , you are a pice of @#$% as a person . you know you lost dont remake .
don't hate the player, hate the game
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