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Suit yourself, I have culture
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On January 22 2012 00:18 zalz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 00:15 DreamChaser wrote:So what i get from this is the reason America doesn't have culture is 1. No bad-ass castles from the middle ages and all the chivalry 2. Not enough artist/writers/our music sucks (Agreed for the most part) 3. We don't have some history with bad ass Roman mythology or Norse mythology (No dragon born  ) ![[image loading]](http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID8947/images/mark-twain-white-hair.jpg) Terrible writers those Americans.
That guy was actually a HUGE dick(in a good way), it's kinda sad that most people only know him for his books for children. The one he wrote about the German language isn't bad either(as long as you don't take it too serious, since he often doesn't go enough into detail or gives reasons for certain things(for example he redicules that mädchen is genderless in German, but doesn't explain that it's a diminutive form of another word(cutification, which you can do with every noun in german) and that the original word was female, every diminutive is genderless in german)
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"We must take care of bacteria it's the only culture we have left" lol Well the US tries to stay independent from religion and we have a huge number of people that immigrated here at some point and brought their own cultures with them. So is something "American" because it was created by someone who is technically an American citizen? I really can't say anything that hasn't already been said.
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I love how this thread has almost turn into an American pity party with Europeans patting them on the shoulder and reminding them of why their culture isn't shit. Buck up little America, you always have Twain!
I wanted to also make a quick point about the term "melting pot" and how it doesn't really accurately reflect how culture has developed here in my opinion. When I think melting pot, I think many ingredients being molded into a new, identical form. More preferably, I think of the US as a stew, in which you can tell what each individual ingredient is (Beef, corn, etc: Germans, Italians, etc) and they still retain each flavor. Now after the stew has settled for a while, maybe left in the refrigerator for a while, the ingredients no longer really retain their natural smells and flavors; it's just "stew." Of course you can tell the corn from the beans, but it all has the same distinct stew taste.
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On January 22 2012 00:24 Maxd11 wrote: "We must take care of bacteria it's the only culture we have left" lol Well the US tries to stay independent from religion and we have a huge number of people that immigrated here at some point and brought their own cultures with them. So is something "American" because it was created by someone who is technically an American citizen? I really can't say anything that hasn't already been said.
The U.S. is less separated from religion than pretty much every western European nation, in terms of both culture and politics.
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On January 22 2012 00:27 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 00:24 Maxd11 wrote: "We must take care of bacteria it's the only culture we have left" lol Well the US tries to stay independent from religion and we have a huge number of people that immigrated here at some point and brought their own cultures with them. So is something "American" because it was created by someone who is technically an American citizen? I really can't say anything that hasn't already been said. The U.S. is less separated from religion than pretty much every western European nation, in terms of both culture and politics.
Simple example: In todays days a German chancellor would never say "God bless Germany" like Obama did in his victory speech after becoming the president of the USA
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We certainly have culture; we just don't have culture that is as ancient as other society's culture (excluding our Native Americans).
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On January 22 2012 00:30 GatorGar wrote: We certainly have culture; we just don't have culture that is as ancient as other society's culture (excluding our Native Americans). Tell me about Somalian Native Americans ;p
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On January 21 2012 22:39 Euronyme wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:35 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:30 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:28 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar. Both are desired. Both can be used to rape and pillage. Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes. Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No. Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote: America is the largest economy in the world.
This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world.
To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just...
That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so  Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck. I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise). "On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English. It doesn't. Let's say something stupid like: Roman armies in the year 0 were on the level of Japanese armies in the year 1600.(if that's true or not isn't important here) Now that they are on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency doesn't mean that they were similiar to each other. PS: ...you better practive your english Using your example: Roman armies in the year 0 were similar to Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. Roman armies in the year 0 were on the same level of Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. They mean the exact same thing... If Americans payed off their debts they'd be a third world country in terms of wealth. http://www.usdebtclock.org/I don't think there's a similarity apart from that except for the religious fundamentalism and lack of education. What an idiotic and wrong statement. You wanna know which country owns the bulk of the US debt? As in, a vast majority of it? + Show Spoiler +The United States. Yeah, we'd be third world if we had to pay back ourselves.
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On January 22 2012 00:30 GatorGar wrote: We certainly have culture; we just don't have culture that is as ancient as other society's culture (excluding our Native Americans). Kinda true. We took some culture from the UK since that is where we came from, after all.
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On January 22 2012 00:33 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:39 Euronyme wrote:On January 21 2012 22:35 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:30 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:28 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar. Both are desired. Both can be used to rape and pillage. Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes. Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No. Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote: America is the largest economy in the world.
This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world.
To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just...
That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so  Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck. I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise). "On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English. It doesn't. Let's say something stupid like: Roman armies in the year 0 were on the level of Japanese armies in the year 1600.(if that's true or not isn't important here) Now that they are on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency doesn't mean that they were similiar to each other. PS: ...you better practive your english Using your example: Roman armies in the year 0 were similar to Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. Roman armies in the year 0 were on the same level of Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. They mean the exact same thing... If Americans payed off their debts they'd be a third world country in terms of wealth. http://www.usdebtclock.org/I don't think there's a similarity apart from that except for the religious fundamentalism and lack of education. What an idiotic and wrong statement. You wanna know which country owns the bulk of the US debt? As in, a vast majority of it? + Show Spoiler +The United States. Yeah, we'd be third world if we had to pay back ourselves.
A big part of it already belongs to China and that's pretty dangerous, especially since it doesn't seem like they'll stop buying up your debts or lending you money in the first place.
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On January 21 2012 16:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Never heard someone say America has no Culture, the fact that people wear Nike and Jordan jerseys seems to make the insult redundant.
I've heard it a lot. Maybe it's just because we have many different cultures.
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On January 22 2012 00:36 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 00:33 Lightwip wrote:On January 21 2012 22:39 Euronyme wrote:On January 21 2012 22:35 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:30 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:28 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar. Both are desired. Both can be used to rape and pillage. Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes. Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No. Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote:[quote] That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so  Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck. I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise). "On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English. It doesn't. Let's say something stupid like: Roman armies in the year 0 were on the level of Japanese armies in the year 1600.(if that's true or not isn't important here) Now that they are on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency doesn't mean that they were similiar to each other. PS: ...you better practive your english Using your example: Roman armies in the year 0 were similar to Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. Roman armies in the year 0 were on the same level of Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. They mean the exact same thing... If Americans payed off their debts they'd be a third world country in terms of wealth. http://www.usdebtclock.org/I don't think there's a similarity apart from that except for the religious fundamentalism and lack of education. What an idiotic and wrong statement. You wanna know which country owns the bulk of the US debt? As in, a vast majority of it? + Show Spoiler +The United States. Yeah, we'd be third world if we had to pay back ourselves. A big part of it already belongs to China and that's pretty dangerous, especially since it doesn't seem like they'll stop buying up your debts or lending you money in the first place.
China's economy is more reliant on ours that ours is on theirs. All of this talk is just fear mongering by Republicans about how we're too dependent on China and how they could take our economy down.
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On January 22 2012 00:36 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 00:33 Lightwip wrote:On January 21 2012 22:39 Euronyme wrote:On January 21 2012 22:35 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:30 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:28 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar. Both are desired. Both can be used to rape and pillage. Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes. Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No. Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote:[quote] That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so  Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck. I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise). "On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English. It doesn't. Let's say something stupid like: Roman armies in the year 0 were on the level of Japanese armies in the year 1600.(if that's true or not isn't important here) Now that they are on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency doesn't mean that they were similiar to each other. PS: ...you better practive your english Using your example: Roman armies in the year 0 were similar to Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. Roman armies in the year 0 were on the same level of Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. They mean the exact same thing... If Americans payed off their debts they'd be a third world country in terms of wealth. http://www.usdebtclock.org/I don't think there's a similarity apart from that except for the religious fundamentalism and lack of education. What an idiotic and wrong statement. You wanna know which country owns the bulk of the US debt? As in, a vast majority of it? + Show Spoiler +The United States. Yeah, we'd be third world if we had to pay back ourselves. A big part of it already belongs to China and that's pretty dangerous, especially since it doesn't seem like they'll stop buying up your debts or lending you money in the first place. They own about a trillion. So about 1/15 of our debt. Yeah, that's really not that bad. We have about double the Chinese GPD anyways. China is more dependent on the US than we are on China at any rate. Don't think that we're at their mercy in any way.
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On January 22 2012 00:36 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 00:33 Lightwip wrote:On January 21 2012 22:39 Euronyme wrote:On January 21 2012 22:35 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:30 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:28 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar. Both are desired. Both can be used to rape and pillage. Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes. Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No. Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote:[quote] That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so  Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck. I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise). "On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English. It doesn't. Let's say something stupid like: Roman armies in the year 0 were on the level of Japanese armies in the year 1600.(if that's true or not isn't important here) Now that they are on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency doesn't mean that they were similiar to each other. PS: ...you better practive your english Using your example: Roman armies in the year 0 were similar to Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. Roman armies in the year 0 were on the same level of Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. They mean the exact same thing... If Americans payed off their debts they'd be a third world country in terms of wealth. http://www.usdebtclock.org/I don't think there's a similarity apart from that except for the religious fundamentalism and lack of education. What an idiotic and wrong statement. You wanna know which country owns the bulk of the US debt? As in, a vast majority of it? + Show Spoiler +The United States. Yeah, we'd be third world if we had to pay back ourselves. A big part of it already belongs to China and that's pretty dangerous, especially since it doesn't seem like they'll stop buying up your debts or lending you money in the first place.
Because China links it's currency to the dollar it has taken to buying US dollars for more yuan then any other country. As a result they are paying more money for a dollar then a dollar is worth, essentially generating debt for themselves.
As a result the US dollar remains high and China can maintain it's current growth.
Every dollar in the Chinese reserve is matched by larger ammount in yuan debt.
Basically i am trying to sell a dollar and the Chinese government is telling me that they are willing to pay 1.01 dollar for every dollar i have.
But ofcourse it's the US economy that is unhealthy.
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you can't escape having a culture as a society
i figure more people don't know what culture means now than a few decades ago.
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On January 21 2012 23:42 Chaosvuistje wrote: Oh now here's a good one. You base 'amount of culture' to 'longer history'. Not only that, but you then compare authors of writings, music plays and paintings with completely different styles. And the 'it's not your fault' sentence basically comes down to this: It's not your fault your culture isn't rich and impressive like mine totally is.
Your post does as much damage to the European stereotype of 'bitching about the US because we have a baseless complex' than it does to prove the stereotype that American culture is at its highest point with Coca cola and baseball.
The only thing that truly amazes me though is that you have the audacity to compare artists like that. Madonna vs Bach? Van Gogh versus Andy Warhol? The hell is up with this? Atleast compare them to artists within their own style. Just because classical music and figurative art has a higher esteem value and general elitist poshness surrounding it doesn't mean it is better than Pop music or Pop-Art. By that same token I can compare the aestetical value of Mondriaans work to the work of Jackson Pollock and come to the conclusion that American culture is more sophisticated because it uses a wider range of colour.
here is the difference bro, i dont want to change the european stereotype about having a superior culture then the us becouse it is a fact. art is debetable and you are free to say " only elistist think classical music and literature are superior", but the elite is called elite for a reason. you can say a pile of shit from a cow is superior to a michelangelo statue in your point of view so what`? go collect piles of shit then.
americans only have "modern" artist so how can i compare goethe to a american writer, the whole point of my argument is that they lack the culture that is born thorough history and had no impact whatsoever in the most important times of mankind. thats the point of the example thanks for pointing out the obvious and making my point. now go write about how all cultures are equal and pop music / mickey mouse are the same as thousands of years of european culuture lol.
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It's a stupid stereotype and there are many of them out there for every nation.
It's based on the fact we conform instead of embracing diversity; thus, the culture gets lost in the mix. Welcome to the melting pot.
James Naismith was Canadian; Broadway took over the theatre capital of the world, but other than that there's nothing 'special' about it.
Eventually you have to let it go man lmao.
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On January 22 2012 00:41 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 00:36 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 22 2012 00:33 Lightwip wrote:On January 21 2012 22:39 Euronyme wrote:On January 21 2012 22:35 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:30 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:28 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote: [quote]
I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good.
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Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck. I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise). "On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English. It doesn't. Let's say something stupid like: Roman armies in the year 0 were on the level of Japanese armies in the year 1600.(if that's true or not isn't important here) Now that they are on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency doesn't mean that they were similiar to each other. PS: ...you better practive your english Using your example: Roman armies in the year 0 were similar to Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. Roman armies in the year 0 were on the same level of Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. They mean the exact same thing... If Americans payed off their debts they'd be a third world country in terms of wealth. http://www.usdebtclock.org/I don't think there's a similarity apart from that except for the religious fundamentalism and lack of education. What an idiotic and wrong statement. You wanna know which country owns the bulk of the US debt? As in, a vast majority of it? + Show Spoiler +The United States. Yeah, we'd be third world if we had to pay back ourselves. A big part of it already belongs to China and that's pretty dangerous, especially since it doesn't seem like they'll stop buying up your debts or lending you money in the first place. They own about a trillion. So about 1/15 of our debt. Yeah, that's really not that bad. We have about double the Chinese GPD anyways. China is more dependent on the US than we are on China at any rate. Don't think that we're at their mercy in any way. hahaha you're so wrong.
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On January 22 2012 00:47 Piste wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 00:41 Lightwip wrote:On January 22 2012 00:36 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 22 2012 00:33 Lightwip wrote:On January 21 2012 22:39 Euronyme wrote:On January 21 2012 22:35 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:30 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:28 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote: [quote] I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck.
I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise). "On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English. It doesn't. Let's say something stupid like: Roman armies in the year 0 were on the level of Japanese armies in the year 1600.(if that's true or not isn't important here) Now that they are on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency doesn't mean that they were similiar to each other. PS: ...you better practive your english Using your example: Roman armies in the year 0 were similar to Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. Roman armies in the year 0 were on the same level of Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. They mean the exact same thing... If Americans payed off their debts they'd be a third world country in terms of wealth. http://www.usdebtclock.org/I don't think there's a similarity apart from that except for the religious fundamentalism and lack of education. What an idiotic and wrong statement. You wanna know which country owns the bulk of the US debt? As in, a vast majority of it? + Show Spoiler +The United States. Yeah, we'd be third world if we had to pay back ourselves. A big part of it already belongs to China and that's pretty dangerous, especially since it doesn't seem like they'll stop buying up your debts or lending you money in the first place. They own about a trillion. So about 1/15 of our debt. Yeah, that's really not that bad. We have about double the Chinese GPD anyways. China is more dependent on the US than we are on China at any rate. Don't think that we're at their mercy in any way. hahaha you're so wrong. Hi. Would you care for some evidence to back up your trolling?
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