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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On January 21 2012 16:51 KimJongChill wrote: They probably mean to say that America lacks cultural refinement. This isn't even true. People love to use the argument that the food we eat was invented in other countries. Who gives a shit? We have it all!!!! | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 22 2012 01:19 Mr Showtime wrote: This isn't even true. People love to use the argument that the food we eat was invented in other countries. Who gives a shit? We have it all!!!! General Tso's Chicken #1 food in the world, and invented in NYC. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
Haters gonna hate I guess. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On January 22 2012 01:54 Jibba wrote: General Tso's Chicken #1 food in the world, and invented in NYC. The menu for my chinese restaurant says General Tso's Chicken was created for General Tso during the Ching Dynasty, are you calling it a liar? | ||
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
On January 21 2012 16:38 Nothingtosay wrote: We Created baseball and basketball which are truly multinational sports. ![[image loading]](http://thenetworth.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/dirk-nowitzki-drives-yi-jianlian1.jpg) Oh boy... Hate to point this out my American friend but James Naismith invented basketball (he was Canadian)... | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On January 22 2012 01:58 xrapture wrote: America is by far the most influential country in the world. Our movies, books, music, and television shows are available throughout the globe. Almost every movie on the Afi's or any major ranking list is American. Most of the world's largest websites are from the US. The US has the most millionares and billionares by a mile, as well as the most companies in the fortune 500. Haters gonna hate I guess. Bragging about it constantly is going to make them hate you too :/ Nationality like this has always sounded silly to me and in of it self acheives nothing. I do get nationalistic concerning the places here, how pretty the Rocky mountains are because I see it every day and I am happy to live here, but if I brag about the achievements of others? I don't see the relation. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 22 2012 01:59 PassiveAce wrote: Yes. All Chinese menus are lying. How on earth are chicken, beef and shrimp going to be a Happy Family? They don't even speak the same animal language. Complete nonsense.The menu for my chinese restaurant says General Tso's Chicken was created for General Tso during the Ching Dynasty, are you calling it a liar? | ||
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HoldenR
Netherlands256 Posts
On January 22 2012 01:58 xrapture wrote: The US has the most millionares and billionares by a mile, as well as the most companies in the fortune 500. You consider that culture? That's something to be ashamed of considering the absolute horrid wealth gap in your country. You know what U.S. also has? Nearly 50 million people living below the poverty line. Should we consider that culture, too? Honestly, this entire arrogance of "we are the best ever everyone else jelly lets intervene in the rest of the world's business and tell them we know better" is why people hate you. It's why 9/11 happened. This attitude is the most adverse to America's success that you could possibly imagine and you're actually proud of it. Even if America was the #1 nation in the world, you can proudly proclaim that people like yourself are the ones preventing it from reaching it's potential of becoming even better. You're officially a drag on your own country. Congratulations. | ||
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RetroAspect
Belgium219 Posts
Only culture they somewhat have (in a good sense) is a history of some great writers. | ||
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Karakaxe
Sweden585 Posts
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False_Peace
United States13 Posts
On January 22 2012 02:17 HoldenR wrote: You consider that culture? That's something to be ashamed of considering the absolute horrid wealth gap in your country. You know what U.S. also has? Nearly 50 million people living below the poverty line. Should we consider that culture, too? Honestly, this entire arrogance of "we are the best ever everyone else jelly lets intervene in the rest of the world's business and tell them we know better" is why people hate you. It's why 9/11 happened. This attitude is the most adverse to America's success that you could possibly imagine and you're actually proud of it. Even if America was the #1 nation in the world, you can proudly proclaim that people like yourself are the ones preventing it from reaching it's potential of becoming even better. You're officially a drag on your own country. Congratulations. Oh I see how it is. As soon as we start to defend ourselves by stating some achievement we have had we drag our country down?? So we should just sit there and let people like you bash us to no end... Let me guess, you have never been to America and are speaking entirely based on things you have heard or read? | ||
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jj33
802 Posts
We are classified the same as say Korea, Japan, France etc. WE all get our food the same way. | ||
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BlueBoxSC
United States582 Posts
On January 21 2012 17:12 Notfragile wrote: They are not jelly. OP is insecure and should not have made this thread. As a short response to the thread I have to say the following: -USA does have culture. But it is not by the standards of the European or Asian culture who had millenia to develop. -An average resident of the US (of course there are exceptions, the coastal cities, both pacific and atlantic) has a lower standard of elegance and savoir vivre than the average european. To us (and to the more civilized citizens of the coastal regions) someone may seem almost like a caveman -Football is something played with the feet only. (aka soccer for you) Except from the above, there are a few reasons why people outside the US exaggerate and say US has no culture. Warning: transfering rants about the US. If you don't want to know the truth, don't open the spoiler. + Show Spoiler + -The proud usage of the word AMERICAN, in every occasion. At least, try to remember what this name is derived from before using it like almost a spell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americo_Vespucci -The nationalism AND the low educational standards leading quite a few citizens having no bloody idea what, or where is the rest of the world -The really poor educational system. A huge chunk of US sientists are foreigners, and that is just a sad display of the low stantards of the rest of the population -The fact that there is a bible zone. And the fact that 40% of the US citizens believe the world was created by god in the past 10000 years. (We aren't mass atheists, but we can appreciate the evidence from carbon 14 isotope dating and can see why the bible should at least be taken as something not literal). -The fact that many of you believe that evolution is a theory. This saddens us really really much. -Constant war making and Imperialism, do not help with your image in the eyes of citizens around the world. -Fixation on capitalism. Around the world we discuss politics oppenly. What would happen to me if I said I am of communist ideology, somewhere in texas? -Fixation on terrorism. Get over it. -The cold war. Russia is not the evil empire. -The song "america fuck yeah" is ironic. Some people seem to have trouble understanding that. -Insane obesity rates. -Etc, etc etc So, you see it's not that you have no culture. Everyone has developed a culture. It's that there are so many things bugging us about your country that we as non US citizens close our eyes to what good you have done and try to focus on the negative side of things. For me, the bright side is Blues, Jazz, (a small part of) Hollywood and of course the scientific culture the US have developed, driving the whole world forward as a result. PS: I don't want any answer to the post, I'm merely explaining why europeans refuse to see what good you have done as a country. They just blacklist you as a whole, which is unfair. Opened the spoiler because I didn't expect to be offended, but I did click it to see what you could say to bash Americans. I laughed, but I sorta shamed. As an American, I... + Show Spoiler + Just sorta am surprised that people from the outside looking in have the same opinions that I do. My mother, who was a veteran in the Gulf War, didn't know what the Cold War even was. | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
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RetroAspect
Belgium219 Posts
On January 22 2012 02:25 jj33 wrote: from a anthrological point of view american "culture" is the same as any modern country that gets their food in the supermarket. We are classified the same as say Korea, Japan, France etc. WE all get our food the same way. That's just 'food" culture, only a small segment of culture as a whole... shortminded much? Also, i dare to point out that the percentage of agraric and artisanal food is a LOT bigger in Europe and most other countries.. | ||
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Kudlak
Czech Republic12 Posts
On January 21 2012 20:30 False_Peace wrote: You know what I love? People who say America is a relatively young country... Actually America is one of the older countries in the world. Yes you might think I'm stupid for saying this but the reality is it is true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_date_of_formation Here is a list of the dates of the formation of every country that exists in the world. The United States is the oldest country in the America's. Older than Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, etc. But most people would say these countries have more culture than the US. Why? Most of their modern day citizens are also descendants from other places, i.e Spain, Africa, etc.. The Unites States of America is also older than the following countries in Europe: Germany, Austria, Belgium, Finland, Hungary, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland to name a few. In fact, the US is actually older than most European countries. So you see, if you want to base culture on when the country was formed, then the US actually has one of the most cultured countries in the world... The only reason why people say countries in Europe have more culture is because those countries were formed from people that had customs and cultural identities from many years before. Edit: http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/06/the-origin-of-the-word-soccer/ Here is a link for the people who make fun of Americans who use the word "soccer." The term was in fact used in British society along with the word "football" to describe the game many many years ago. The word subsequently fell out of favor and "football" was later used predominantly. The history of the Czech lands includes the following periods: Slavs: Bohemians and Moravians – arrival into Czech area during the 6th century (535?) Samo’s realm (623–658) Moravian principality (~800–833) in Moravia Great Moravia (833–907) • 888–894 also comprised Bohemia Bohemian Principality (870s–1198) • including Moravia, since 1197 the Margraviate of Moravia Kingdom of Bohemia (1198–1348/1918) • since 1291/1335 also with Silesia (duchies) and both Lusatias (margraviates) Crown of Bohemia (1348–1749/1918) – de facto cancelled in 1749 • since 1526 under Habsburg rule (personal union with Austria and Hungary) • 1620/27 lost independence, part of Habsburg Empire • since 1804 part of Austrian Empire • since 1867 part of Austria-Hungary Czechoslovakia (1918–1992) • since 1960 the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic (ČSSR) • since 1990 the Czechoslovak Federative Republic (ČSFR) Czech Republic (since 1993) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Czech_lands hf :-D and... Charles University in Prague (also simply Charles University; Czech: Univerzita Karlova v Praze; Latin: Universitas Carolina Pragensis; German: Karls-Universität zu Prag) is the oldest and largest university in the Czech Republic. Founded in 1348, it was the first university in Central Europe and is also considered the earliest German university.[1] It is one of the oldest universities in Europe in continuous operation. It is a top university in the Central and Eastern Europe and it belongs among 1.5 percent of world’s best universities | ||
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andReslic
216 Posts
On January 22 2012 01:58 xrapture wrote: America is by far the most influential country in the world. Our movies, books, music, and television shows are available throughout the globe. Almost every movie on the Afi's or any major ranking list is American. Most of the world's largest websites are from the US. The US has the most millionares and billionares by a mile, as well as the most companies in the fortune 500. Haters gonna hate I guess. Im not hating but the richest guy in the world is a Mexican. (Carlos Slim) | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
On January 22 2012 01:14 lolmlg wrote: If US citizens didn't consider those people "American" at the time then modern US citizens don't deserve the right to take ownership of their achievements. Period. You're getting on a whole new level here, but I'll go along. What you are saying is that if those people were considered to be American at the time, then citizens of the US WOULD deserve the right to take ownership of their achievements. Which brings us to this question, is this actually the case? The flaw with being proud of your nation, religious belief or family stems from one thing: That you can actually be proud of yourself because other people did something good. People in the US, or hell any country on the world, appearantly can take pride in what they are simply because of what their ancestors did. Great achievements like becoming sovereign or inventing something, that you probably weren't even involved in, you can be proud of that your nation achieved. Not only is this a very selfish and ignorant notion ( It would be akin to "I am so proud to be a Teamliquid forum subscriber for having a civilized thread", an act that I cannot attribute solely for myself ) but if you can inherit someones achievements, you must inherit their failures as well. In other words, people that take pride in being a US citizen have to automatically assume guilt of slavery or other failing policies their deceased countrymen have taken part in. German citizens that take pride in being German have to assume guilt for what their countrymen did during the second worldwar. It is simply a flawed mindset. People CANNOT influence their countries' past, and therefore cannot take pride NOR guilt in the events that happened during that time. It is not logical and only serves an emotional purpose. I cannot take ownership of my culture because it just happened. It happened before me and it will happen after me. Saying that US citizens don't deserve the right to take ownership of the achievements of their african american ancestors assumes that this right exists if you are directly part of the heritage of the people back then. Which simply isn't true because it happened out of your control. The only guy that can logically be proud of inventing Jazz is the guy that invented it. | ||
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jj33
802 Posts
On January 22 2012 02:29 RetroAspect wrote: That's just 'food" culture, only a small segment of culture as a whole... shortminded much? Also, i dare to point out that the percentage of agraric and artisanal food is a LOT bigger in Europe and most other countries.. not shortminded at all. ask any anthropologist. the way any culture or group of people get their food is what forms that culture. nothing is more important that how you get your food. everything else is superficial. France and any modern day european country is classified the same as the USA from an anthropological view. and when you said that's just "food culture" once again how you get your food is the most important and beefiest part of culture. and maybe you should stop with the insults if you're wrong. | ||
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