EPTp.s when your country has a history the length of say the UK, you lose that "We are the best country in the world" sentiment and it is replaced with "Well it would be worse, at least we have toilets and stuff"
Americans have no culture? - Page 18
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
p.s when your country has a history the length of say the UK, you lose that "We are the best country in the world" sentiment and it is replaced with "Well it would be worse, at least we have toilets and stuff" | ||
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rea1ity
United Kingdom385 Posts
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Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
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Evil_Monkey_
Denmark296 Posts
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Callynn
Netherlands917 Posts
Every non-isolated human is part of a culture, wether they like it or not. Culture can be observed as superficial, without content or offensive, but that still makes it a culture. | ||
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False_Peace
United States13 Posts
On January 21 2012 23:42 Chaosvuistje wrote: Oh now here's a good one. You base 'amount of culture' to 'longer history'. Not only that, but you then compare authors of writings, music plays and paintings with completely different styles. And the 'it's not your fault' sentence basically comes down to this: It's not your fault your culture isn't rich and impressive like mine totally is. Your post does as much damage to the European stereotype of 'bitching about the US because we have a baseless complex' than it does to prove the stereotype that American culture is at its highest point with Coca cola and baseball. The only thing that truly amazes me though is that you have the audacity to compare artists like that. Madonna vs Bach? Van Gogh versus Andy Warhol? The hell is up with this? Atleast compare them to artists within their own style. Just because classical music and figurative art has a higher esteem value and general elitist poshness surrounding it doesn't mean it is better than Pop music or Pop-Art. By that same token I can compare the aestetical value of Mondriaans work to the work of Jackson Pollock and come to the conclusion that American culture is more sophisticated because it uses a wider range of colour. What he said^^ This guy pretty much sums it all up. You are a smart fellow :-) Can't we all just embrace our differences? Come to America and im sure you will love it. And I have been to many of the countries that represent most posters here and I loved all of them as well. Each one of them distinctively different from the other... | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:02 False_Peace wrote: What he said^^ This guy pretty much sums it all up. You are a smart fellow :-) Can't we all just embrace our differences? Come to America and im sure you will love it. And I have been to many of the countries that represent most posters here and I loved all of them as well. Each one of them distinctively different from the other... Kinda sad that you've been to so many of them and still wrote that they're younger that the USA. + Show Spoiler + Don't mind my trolling  | ||
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Epoch
Canada257 Posts
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xM(Z
Romania5276 Posts
On January 21 2012 23:19 False_Peace wrote: LOL read the phrase something similar?? How about the phrase you stated before it: "baseball is not american" You clearly said here that baseball is not american. And I don't think I gave you a reason to hate America. It seems you already have your bias and are using my post to rationalize your feelings. my bad that i didn't make a distinction between the brand and the game i guess. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On January 21 2012 23:53 Evil_Monkey_ wrote: America is an English, French, Spanish colony and was once upon also colonized by danes, of course it has no culture and the culture that it does have is stolen from other countries. Also I don't accept Justin Bieber and Selina Gomez as gods or as real culture as you do in America. The English that we know started when a bunch of Germans (Saxons) invaded England. Furthermore, the English Monarchy was started by a Norman (a mixture of Norman, Anglo-Saxon, Scandinavian, and French cultures) invading and taking over/uniting the country. The French have been repeatedly influenced by Anglo-Saxon/Muslim immigration and were significantly influenced by Viking/Scandinavian immigration/invasion. The Spanish are a mixture of European and North African roots. It's ridiculous to say that because a country was influenced by another culture it therefore doesn't have a culture of its own. If we say that then pretty much every European region wouldn't have a culture. | ||
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acidfreak
Romania352 Posts
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:07 Stratos_speAr wrote: The English that we know started when a bunch of Germans (Saxons) invaded England. Furthermore, the English Monarchy was started by a Norman (a mixture of Norman, Anglo-Saxon, Scandinavian, and French cultures) invading and taking over/uniting the country. The French have been repeatedly influenced by Anglo-Saxon/Muslim immigration and were significantly influenced by Viking/Scandinavian immigration/invasion. The Spanish are a mixture of European and North African roots. It's ridiculous to say that because a country was influenced by another culture it therefore doesn't have a culture of its own. If we say that then pretty much every European region wouldn't have a culture. There's an awnser to this post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305114¤tpage=11#217 The difference between the USA and European countries is quite big due to that. EDIT: quoted the wrong post but corrected it now lol | ||
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SigmaFiE
United States333 Posts
On January 21 2012 16:44 Wombatsavior wrote: Just gotta say, basketball came from Canada. On this point -- no, No, and NO again -- please see James Naismith at the University of Kansas for the invention of the game of Basketball (in its current form) -- please see Latin American empires for previous version (Inca'n if memory serves). Sorry, had to get that out there. Rock Chalk! | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:11 SilentchiLL wrote: There's an awnser to this post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305114¤tpage=11#217 The difference between the USA and European countries is quite big due to that. EDIT: quoted the wrong post but corrected it now lol This is absolutely true, but to say that the U.S. simply does not have a culture is straight up ignorant. With that said, most western countries have a similar experience to the U.S., although it isn't nearly as extensive as the U.S. experience. Here, we are such a large country that we have several different cultures and subcultures that makes it so that the U.S. can't have one defined cultural identity. Many other cultures (such as France and Germany with their Muslim populations) deal with multiculturalism as well, just not as much as the U.S. | ||
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
1. No bad-ass castles from the middle ages and all the chivalry 2. Not enough artist/writers/our music sucks (Agreed for the most part) 3. We don't have some history with bad ass Roman mythology or Norse mythology (No dragon born  ) | ||
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viii
United States266 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:15 DreamChaser wrote: So what i get from this is the reason America doesn't have culture is 1. No bad-ass castles from the middle ages and all the chivalry 2. Not enough artist/writers/our music sucks (Agreed for the most part) 3. We don't have some history with bad ass Roman mythology or Norse mythology (No dragon born )Y'know what? For all the shitty pop music, we still invented jazz. Chalkin' that up as a major win. | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:15 DreamChaser wrote: So what i get from this is the reason America doesn't have culture is 1. No bad-ass castles from the middle ages and all the chivalry 2. Not enough artist/writers/our music sucks (Agreed for the most part) 3. We don't have some history with bad ass Roman mythology or Norse mythology (No dragon born )Then you should probably read this thread again 0.o On January 22 2012 00:18 Stratos_speAr wrote: Y'know what? For all the shitty pop music, we still invented jazz. Chalkin' that up as a major win. Hate to say it here(actually no, I don't I'm having fun^^), but wasn't jazz and blues invented by the blacks and wasn't that only possible because you enslaved them and they still didn't have equal rights? Blues even comes from sadness afaik | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On January 22 2012 00:15 DreamChaser wrote: So what i get from this is the reason America doesn't have culture is 1. No bad-ass castles from the middle ages and all the chivalry 2. Not enough artist/writers/our music sucks (Agreed for the most part) 3. We don't have some history with bad ass Roman mythology or Norse mythology (No dragon born )![[image loading]](http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID8947/images/mark-twain-white-hair.jpg) Terrible writers those Americans. | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
Here in Toronto, it blows my mind how regularly the immigrant population here claims that Canadians too have no culture. From my experience, it seems like western culture is just tied up into a nice bow of "western life," and somehow that means both the US and Canada don't have any culture of their own. This can also be attributed to the fact that many things 'American' have now made their way around the entire world (Starbucks, McDonalds, etc). So the "American" aspect of it got washed out in the minds of everyone else. Hope to not incite a riot here, but for me these "America/Canada/X country has no culture" comments almost always seem to come from Europeans directed at North Americans. Food for thought, this type of shit pisses me off a lot. | ||
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