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On January 21 2012 22:56 zalz wrote:
Some people are seriously trying to argue that the US economy is around the level of a 3rd world country :')
I worry for the sanity of the people on my continent.
I understand the need to bash America. It's been hard having to deal with the fact that we aren't the center of the world anymore.
But atleast keep your bashing grounded in some sense of reality. You might want to atleast once in your life take a plane to the USA, step of it, and realize that in fact there is a small difference between Zimbabwe and the USA.
This post made my day.
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On January 21 2012 16:38 Nothingtosay wrote:
My fellow Americans and team liquid goers of other nationalities.. if you have been alive for more than 5 seconds you've probably heard someone say "America has no culture".
No, never heard it.
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On January 21 2012 22:46 seiferoth10 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:39 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:35 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:30 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:28 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar.
Both are desired.
Both can be used to rape and pillage.
Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes.
Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No.
Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote:
America is the largest economy in the world.
This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world.
To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just...
That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so  Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck. I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise). "On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English. It doesn't. Let's say something stupid like: Roman armies in the year 0 were on the level of Japanese armies in the year 1600.(if that's true or not isn't important here) Now that they are on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency doesn't mean that they were similiar to each other. PS: ...you better practive your english Using your example: Roman armies in the year 0 were similar to Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. Roman armies in the year 0 were on the same level of Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. They mean the exact same thing... ... Think a second So they were on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency. BUT THEY WERE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IN MOST OTHER CATEGORIES. Do you get it now? If I would've ment to say that they are similiar then I would've said that, not that they are not on the same niveau. Here's what you posted: "I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good." You didn't say "in terms of wealth" . You just said economy. Meaning you said "the US economy is on the same level of a third world country". You didn't specify specific attributes. You basically said "the US economy is surrounded by, or on the same level, of third world countries in their economy". So, any proof?
What do you think a good economy is about?
WEALTH, even if it's not fairly distributed between it's citizens, it's still about wealth.
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I think the more normal "insult" is that America don't have any history. Because U.S.A is younger then 600 years, so it makes a bit of sense.
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On January 21 2012 22:56 zalz wrote:
Some people are seriously trying to argue that the US economy is around the level of a 3rd world country :')
I worry for the sanity of the people on my continent.
I understand the need to bash America. It's been hard having to deal with the fact that we aren't the center of the world anymore.
But atleast keep your bashing grounded in some sense of reality. You might want to atleast once in your life take a plane to the USA, step of it, and realize that in fact there is a small difference between Zimbabwe and the USA.
pretty sure that everybody here said that it's not on the level of them (not is a very important word here)
On January 21 2012 22:52 white_horse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On January 21 2012 22:43 white_horse wrote:On January 21 2012 22:31 KalWarkov wrote:
The difference is, that Europe has a larger varity of culture.
3000 years of history formed so many unique things, while America has 300 years of history, thats what America lacks a bit.
I guess what makes me speechless when europeans bash america for its relative lack of culture is the way they phrase it, as if it's our fault for not developing a culture as good as the one they have. We just happened to not have been around as long as they have. Whats so wrong about that? More importantly, how is it fair to even compare the culture of europe and the US? US is a giant amalgation of many different cultures. European countries like germany, france, belgium, etc are homogeonous groups of people who each share their own common set of values and characteristics (i.e culture). So how is it americans' and their ancestors' faults for not having the kind of "culture" that europeans are accustomed to? People enjoy hating. That hating just happens to be directed at the US. Gemany and Italy weren't exactly one homogeonous country for as far back as we can remember but I agree with that. Out of curiosity, how big of an impact do Native Americans have on the, "culture," of the current USA? Not very much. Maybe except as mascots for certain baseball teams lol. Can we stay out of the subject of native americans? It's a source of another popular line of america-bashing.
Slowly you just seem paranoid, not everybody hates americans, in fact I'd say that most here don't.
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On January 21 2012 23:01 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:56 zalz wrote:
Some people are seriously trying to argue that the US economy is around the level of a 3rd world country :')
I worry for the sanity of the people on my continent.
I understand the need to bash America. It's been hard having to deal with the fact that we aren't the center of the world anymore.
But atleast keep your bashing grounded in some sense of reality. You might want to atleast once in your life take a plane to the USA, step of it, and realize that in fact there is a small difference between Zimbabwe and the USA. pretty sure that everybody here said that it's not on the level of them (not is a very important word here) Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:52 white_horse wrote:On January 21 2012 22:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On January 21 2012 22:43 white_horse wrote:On January 21 2012 22:31 KalWarkov wrote:
The difference is, that Europe has a larger varity of culture.
3000 years of history formed so many unique things, while America has 300 years of history, thats what America lacks a bit.
I guess what makes me speechless when europeans bash america for its relative lack of culture is the way they phrase it, as if it's our fault for not developing a culture as good as the one they have. We just happened to not have been around as long as they have. Whats so wrong about that? More importantly, how is it fair to even compare the culture of europe and the US? US is a giant amalgation of many different cultures. European countries like germany, france, belgium, etc are homogeonous groups of people who each share their own common set of values and characteristics (i.e culture). So how is it americans' and their ancestors' faults for not having the kind of "culture" that europeans are accustomed to? People enjoy hating. That hating just happens to be directed at the US. Gemany and Italy weren't exactly one homogeonous country for as far back as we can remember but I agree with that. Out of curiosity, how big of an impact do Native Americans have on the, "culture," of the current USA? Not very much. Maybe except as mascots for certain baseball teams lol. Can we stay out of the subject of native americans? It's a source of another popular line of america-bashing. Slowly you just seem paranoid, not everybody hates americans, in fact I'd say that most here don't.
Americans are on average richer then Germans.
I don't understand why this fact makes you so angry. They are richer then Dutch people aswell. I seem to still be sane.
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On January 21 2012 22:56 zalz wrote:
Some people are seriously trying to argue that the US economy is around the level of a 3rd world country :')
I worry for the sanity of the people on my continent.
I understand the need to bash America. It's been hard having to deal with the fact that we aren't the center of the world anymore.
But atleast keep your bashing grounded in some sense of reality. You might want to atleast once in your life take a plane to the USA, step of it, and realize that in fact there is a small difference between Zimbabwe and the USA.
McDonalds?
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On January 21 2012 23:04 zalz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 23:01 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:56 zalz wrote:
Some people are seriously trying to argue that the US economy is around the level of a 3rd world country :')
I worry for the sanity of the people on my continent.
I understand the need to bash America. It's been hard having to deal with the fact that we aren't the center of the world anymore.
But atleast keep your bashing grounded in some sense of reality. You might want to atleast once in your life take a plane to the USA, step of it, and realize that in fact there is a small difference between Zimbabwe and the USA. pretty sure that everybody here said that it's not on the level of them (not is a very important word here) On January 21 2012 22:52 white_horse wrote:On January 21 2012 22:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On January 21 2012 22:43 white_horse wrote:On January 21 2012 22:31 KalWarkov wrote:
The difference is, that Europe has a larger varity of culture.
3000 years of history formed so many unique things, while America has 300 years of history, thats what America lacks a bit.
I guess what makes me speechless when europeans bash america for its relative lack of culture is the way they phrase it, as if it's our fault for not developing a culture as good as the one they have. We just happened to not have been around as long as they have. Whats so wrong about that? More importantly, how is it fair to even compare the culture of europe and the US? US is a giant amalgation of many different cultures. European countries like germany, france, belgium, etc are homogeonous groups of people who each share their own common set of values and characteristics (i.e culture). So how is it americans' and their ancestors' faults for not having the kind of "culture" that europeans are accustomed to? People enjoy hating. That hating just happens to be directed at the US. Gemany and Italy weren't exactly one homogeonous country for as far back as we can remember but I agree with that. Out of curiosity, how big of an impact do Native Americans have on the, "culture," of the current USA? Not very much. Maybe except as mascots for certain baseball teams lol. Can we stay out of the subject of native americans? It's a source of another popular line of america-bashing. Slowly you just seem paranoid, not everybody hates americans, in fact I'd say that most here don't. Americans are on average richer then Germans. I don't understand why this fact makes you so angry. They are richer then Dutch people aswell. I seem to still be sane.
Pretty sure that the average income of a US American is lower than the one of a German, and they have way bigger debts with a lower probability to pay them back aswell.
Atleast that would only make sense, since lower jobless number, a high export/import difference in germany, opposed to the export/import deficit in america, it's lower credit rating(triple A anyone?) and the higher debts.
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On January 21 2012 22:40 xM(Z wrote:i just want to point out that baseball is not 'american'. romanians have been playing something similar since 1364. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oină. also, when people say that US has no culture, they mean something like this: (random/bogus example) If CocaCola were to be invented by an irish living in US, it would not be considered something american.
And here is a post that just completely smells of rediculous nationalism and hatred towards the US. Some people have such a big complex against the US they must dig to the absolute bottom of the barrel to find some obscure fact that somehow and in someway proves we Americans are unoriginal and just copy/stole everything from other countries.
You my friend are just plain ignorant and stupid if you think that Romanians invented baseball. Just because a sport preceded baseball and used a similar ball etc, does not mean that is the same sport...
sheesh.. some people..
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On January 21 2012 22:47 zeehar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:40 xM(Z wrote:i just want to point out that baseball is not 'american'. romanians have been playing something similar since 1364. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oină. also, when people say that US has no culture, they mean something like this: (random/bogus example) If CocaCola were to be invented by an irish living in US, it would not be considered something american. by that measure, soccer was invented in china around 300BC.
i do not consider re-runs, re-makes, re-adaptations as part of ones culture. if you do, thats your business.
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It's mainly bashing modern American society and bashing the tacky 'fast food, gun obsession and spoiled teens who demand the new iPhone for christmas every year' image that I along with many other foriegners percieve. A warranted but nonetheless untrue view.
And remember that these cultural icons become less relevant each year. It's not the lack of culture. It's the lack of people caring about it.
EDIT: I'd think baseball is based on cricket. But you wouldn't say soccer isn't part of Europe or South America's culture because it was invented in England.
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On January 21 2012 23:07 False_Peace wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:40 xM(Z wrote:i just want to point out that baseball is not 'american'. romanians have been playing something similar since 1364. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oină. also, when people say that US has no culture, they mean something like this: (random/bogus example) If CocaCola were to be invented by an irish living in US, it would not be considered something american. And here is a post that just completely smells of rediculous nationalism and hatred towards the US. Some people have such a big complex against the US they must dig to the absolute bottom of the barrel to find some obscure fact that somehow and in someway proves we Americans are unoriginal and just copy/stole everything from other countries. You my friend are just plain ignorant and stupid if you think that Romanians invented baseball. Just because a sport preceded baseball and used a similar ball etc, does not mean that is the same sport... sheesh.. some people..
first read the phrase --> "SOMETHING SIMILAR" <--
then get it that i was just explaining a point of view (NOT MINE).
anyway, you just gave me a reason to hate US now.
gratz, how do you feel?.
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Oh and one more post. One thing that really irritates me is when people bash the US about its debt. Yes it is true that the USA has the largest debt in the world. However this is not really the best measure to consider. OF course since the USA has the largest economy it would seem natural that it would also have the largest debt.
So.... A better measure to consider is debt compared to % of GDP. If we look at this figure then the following nations are in much bigger shit than the US: Japan, Italy, Greece, Singapore, Belgium, Canada, Germany, France, Egypt, UK and the Netherlands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_debt
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I've never heard anyone say that in my life.
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We erect monuments like the St louis Arch and carve the faces of past leaders into mountain sides. ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/St_Louis_night_expblend_cropped.jpg) .
its a farcaster :O
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On January 21 2012 23:16 False_Peace wrote:Oh and one more post. One thing that really irritates me is when people bash the US about its debt. Yes it is true that the USA has the largest debt in the world. However this is not really the best measure to consider. OF course since the USA has the largest economy it would seem natural that it would also have the largest debt. So.... A better measure to consider is debt compared to % of GDP. If we look at this figure then the following nations are in much bigger shit than the US: Japan, Italy, Greece, Singapore, Belgium, Canada, Germany, France, Egypt, UK and the Netherlands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_debt
That is clearly not updated. The US debt is over 100% of GDP at this point. I think it went over the 100% line in late 2010 or so.
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On January 21 2012 23:10 xM(Z wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 23:07 False_Peace wrote:On January 21 2012 22:40 xM(Z wrote:i just want to point out that baseball is not 'american'. romanians have been playing something similar since 1364. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oină. also, when people say that US has no culture, they mean something like this: (random/bogus example) If CocaCola were to be invented by an irish living in US, it would not be considered something american. And here is a post that just completely smells of rediculous nationalism and hatred towards the US. Some people have such a big complex against the US they must dig to the absolute bottom of the barrel to find some obscure fact that somehow and in someway proves we Americans are unoriginal and just copy/stole everything from other countries. You my friend are just plain ignorant and stupid if you think that Romanians invented baseball. Just because a sport preceded baseball and used a similar ball etc, does not mean that is the same sport... sheesh.. some people.. first read the phrase --> "SOMETHING SIMILAR" <-- then get it that i was just explaining a point of view (NOT MINE). anyway, you just gave me a reason to hate US now. gratz, how do you feel?.
LOL read the phrase something similar?? How about the phrase you stated before it:
"baseball is not american"
You clearly said here that baseball is not american.
And I don't think I gave you a reason to hate America. It seems you already have your bias and are using my post to rationalize your feelings.
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america is a young country and therefore lacks history, and for most history is culture.
who is a famous american writer? hemmingway? poe ? twain?
not too bad but compared to the likes of schiller, goethe, shakespeare, tolstoy, dostoevsky ot the thousands of much more famous and impressive european writers it is just a insult to compare them.
same goes for musicans and artist in general, springstin vs beethoven? madonna vs bach? da vinci vs gates? van gogh vs warhole?
again not your fault your country is too young to have a rich and impressive cultural background like europe, but its just silly to say it aint there.
reading here that stuff like baseball or coca cola is supossed to be your argument for having a strong culture, well lets just say it does not help to debunk the stereotypes.
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On January 21 2012 23:19 Euronyme wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 23:16 False_Peace wrote:Oh and one more post. One thing that really irritates me is when people bash the US about its debt. Yes it is true that the USA has the largest debt in the world. However this is not really the best measure to consider. OF course since the USA has the largest economy it would seem natural that it would also have the largest debt. So.... A better measure to consider is debt compared to % of GDP. If we look at this figure then the following nations are in much bigger shit than the US: Japan, Italy, Greece, Singapore, Belgium, Canada, Germany, France, Egypt, UK and the Netherlands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_debt That is clearly not updated. The US debt is over 100% of GDP at this point. I think it went over the 100% line in late 2010 or so.
That is the 2010 statistics according to the 2011 CIA World Factbook. Including late 2010.
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The only negative things which I have to say about American culture are the following:
Too much obesity
Too much whinging and whining (esp from the men? Man up???????)
Too much greed and materialism
Too much "God's gift to the world" complex.
Apart from the above, America actually has a very rich culture. The people there are for the most part genuine and warm.
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