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On January 21 2012 22:14 Tristran wrote:Oh look, a Europe vs America thread. Because that's the one thing we needed on the internet! I don't care what anyone says. South Korea is better than both places, I want to live there  Edit: SOUTH Korea for sure
We have a nice place here come on over 
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On January 21 2012 22:16 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:14 Tristran wrote:Oh look, a Europe vs America thread. Because that's the one thing we needed on the internet! I don't care what anyone says. South Korea is better than both places, I want to live there Edit: SOUTH Korea for sure Did you accidentally say North?
Nah... I just said Korea.
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On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar.
Both are desired.
Both can be used to rape and pillage.
Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes.
Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No.
Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote:
America is the largest economy in the world.
This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world.
To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just...
That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so Thank you
I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck.
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On January 21 2012 22:02 white_horse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:00 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 21:56 zalz wrote:On January 21 2012 21:46 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 21:38 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:35 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 21:28 white_horse wrote:On January 21 2012 21:03 voy wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. oh gosh nothing but trees? true. but they didnt apear from nowhere, those guy who build that culture... they came from Europe I have nothing against USA, but really, dont say stupid things. Yeah it was just way to characterize how there wasn't a european style "country". I'm sure there was more than just trees on the north american continent, thanks for pointing that out. to say that america doesn't have a culture is silly to begin with because there isn't an existing "american race" that has a "culture" that europeans would consider what they think is "developed" culture. The american culture that you see today is made up from immigrants. what is wrong about that and what is so wrong that the descendents of these immigrants don't have a culture that what you think is "developed"? I think the problem is that america doesn't have one culture, it has many cultures as a multicultural country. The Melting Pot didn't work, the salad bowl kinda did, and that's where you're at right now. Although many citizens of the USA have certain "american" things they share with each other you're still no fully american country, large parts of your people just belong to a country with many people from all over the world connected by certain "american" traditions and habits. Notice that I'm not saying that there are no "american" americans, but large parts of your citizens consider themselves americans and others would say they are americans too, while they still kept parts of the culture of the countries they or their driect ancestors came from, which they don't share with most of their fellow americans. Thank you for understanding this. American culture is made up of a thousand other cultures practiced within arms length of one another. It's a very rare occasion that I am in a room full of people who are just like me, and in truth, I prefer the diversity. I don't only undestand you, I understand the guy you argued with too and partially, I agree with him(sorry). One reason why there's a certain dislike of americans(not american individuals) in the world is that you see yourself as the #1, although america has many faults and that disproportional pride and nationalism is one of those faults(although a very human one). For example, somebody here said that america is "[...]economically[...] the #1", he mentioned other things aswell, which might be wrong too, but I especially remember this one because it made me laugh(once again sorry) because of the HUGE export/import deficit america has and several other reasons. Now that doesn't make you a bad people and especially not bad individuals, but you have to understand that this kind of attitude(which could be described as arrogance as one here did) doesn't really make you popular. America is the largest economy in the world. This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world. To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just... large=/=best I think that should be obvious Since when did he suggest that, because america has the largest economy in the world, america is also the best as well? I'm almost convinced that europeans have their brains hard-wired to accuse americans of being arrogant and uptight whenever theres some kind of discussion that involves the US.
He did when he jumped to the defence of someone claiming that "the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc. "
The statement #1 indeed suggests best, not largest... Geez I'm almost convinced that americans have their brains hard-wired to being automatically insulted if they can't claim USA #1 even when it just isn't true (look, I can make retarded generalizations as well).
I think the statement in the OP is meant to go on the civilians and not the society, meaning that american tourists are in Europe widely regarded to have a tendency to be pretty damn tactless - which obviously doesn't hold true for all americans and is probably unjust to the majority, but that is the way prejudice works.
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On January 21 2012 21:43 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:38 Talin wrote:On January 21 2012 21:29 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:24 Talin wrote:On January 21 2012 21:04 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:03 voy wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. oh gosh nothing but trees? true. but they did apear from nowhere, those guy who build that culture... they came from Europe No, they left Europe and then broke political connections through military action. There's a qualitative difference. It's important to now separate the two factions that existed after settlement. The Europeans loyal to Europe, and the Europeans loyal to this new land. Neither of those two factions existed... ever. They didn't even exist in a figurative sense. That is a completely romanticized and made up oversimplification of what actually happened and what made people leave Europe to America or side with that "military action" against European imperialism. Do you really think that most of the Irish people that left to America felt no connection or loyalty towards their homeland and culture? That would be very ironic considering that loyalty is actually a huge part of why they had to leave in the first place. -__- Study actual American history from pre-Revolutionary War to the ratification of the Constitution, and make sure you read all of the Federalist papers. Obviously I am going to devote several months of my life to study a topic some random forum user recommended because he had no other means of defending the nonsensical claims he made. That seems perfectly reasonable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_(American_Revolution)I have. And while there is a lot of romanticizing going on in history classes in middle school, you get to learn about these men for real in university. The Sons of Liberty really did exist, and there were large factions of anti-British. Whether they came from Ireland or the Netherlands, even if they loved their home land greatly, they still fought for America against the British who sought only to annex the country for wealth.
Nobody disputes that they did, and why wouldn't they? It was a reasonable thing to oppose an overseas imperialistic government in their position.
That does not mean that they stopped being aware of their cultural origin and tradition and that it somehow stopped existing during the formative years of United States.
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I've actually never heard that americans have no culture... That seems very ignorant to me.
Funny reading some americans comments in this thread though... T_T
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The only reason why I heared someone saying that America has no culture was because of their influence on the Esskultur ("eating culture"?, is there an english word for that meaning?)
Fast food-restaurants and stuff like that are something I by myself consider to be "minor"/loss of culture (<- I am a food racist!) compared to my cultures usual food.
Notes:
I would consider Basketball to be from Canada when the inventor was Canadian (by birth).
Someone claimed that the USA might be considered to have no culture because their language isn't that old... You guys speak English which comes from England...
Sorry for my bad English by the way.
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When people say "Americans have no culture", they are referring to the aesthetic term "culture" or more generally to humanist sensitivity, not the anthropological term "culture". Of course any nation and any people have anthropological culture. Its impossible not to. Jazz and rock'n roll and coca-cola and baseball are examples of anthropological culture. Appreciation and understanding of the subtle but universal themes of the human condition, for example in the movie Brokeback Mountain can be classified as aesthetic culture as opposed to the easy to digest black and white themes of a movie like Predator. Understanding of the current condition of the global economy and how it affects changes in the lives of people from India to Indiana is an example of humanist sensitivity. That many Americans (I have no idea how prevalent) would rather watch reality TV than seek to understand reality and humanity on a deep level is what they mean when they say "Americans have no culture". I don't think it has anything to do with how old the buildings are or what sport or music was invented where.
Its a broad statement. On average, is it true or more true than for people of other countries? I'm going to have to go with a qualified "yes".
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On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar.
Both are desired.
Both can be used to rape and pillage.
Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes.
Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No.
Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote:
America is the largest economy in the world.
This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world.
To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just...
That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck.
I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise).
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On January 21 2012 22:19 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:43 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:38 Talin wrote:On January 21 2012 21:29 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:24 Talin wrote:On January 21 2012 21:04 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:03 voy wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. oh gosh nothing but trees? true. but they did apear from nowhere, those guy who build that culture... they came from Europe No, they left Europe and then broke political connections through military action. There's a qualitative difference. It's important to now separate the two factions that existed after settlement. The Europeans loyal to Europe, and the Europeans loyal to this new land. Neither of those two factions existed... ever. They didn't even exist in a figurative sense. That is a completely romanticized and made up oversimplification of what actually happened and what made people leave Europe to America or side with that "military action" against European imperialism. Do you really think that most of the Irish people that left to America felt no connection or loyalty towards their homeland and culture? That would be very ironic considering that loyalty is actually a huge part of why they had to leave in the first place. -__- Study actual American history from pre-Revolutionary War to the ratification of the Constitution, and make sure you read all of the Federalist papers. Obviously I am going to devote several months of my life to study a topic some random forum user recommended because he had no other means of defending the nonsensical claims he made. That seems perfectly reasonable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_(American_Revolution)I have. And while there is a lot of romanticizing going on in history classes in middle school, you get to learn about these men for real in university. The Sons of Liberty really did exist, and there were large factions of anti-British. Whether they came from Ireland or the Netherlands, even if they loved their home land greatly, they still fought for America against the British who sought only to annex the country for wealth. Nobody disputes that they did, and why wouldn't they? It was a reasonable thing to oppose an overseas imperialistic government in their position. That does not mean that they stopped being aware of their cultural origin and tradition and that it somehow stopped existing during the formative years of United States.
I never tried to say that. Maybe my message was unclear? I have a tendency to be a bit ambiguous at times. It seems that we agree more than we disagree, so I will leave it at that.
I'd still recommend reading the Federalist No. 51. It's a pretty good, but difficult, read. It describes a lot of the controls placed on government, why they are necessary, and other relevant information.
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On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar.
Both are desired.
Both can be used to rape and pillage.
Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes.
Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No.
Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote:
America is the largest economy in the world.
This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world.
To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just...
That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck. I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise).
"On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English.
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On January 21 2012 22:28 seiferoth10 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar.
Both are desired.
Both can be used to rape and pillage.
Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes.
Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No.
Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote:
America is the largest economy in the world.
This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world.
To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just...
That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck. I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise). "On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English.
It doesn't.
Let's say something stupid like:
Roman armies in the year 0 were on the level of Japanese armies in the year 1600.(if that's true or not isn't important here)
Now that they are on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency doesn't mean that they were similiar to each other.
PS: ...you better practive your english
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Hate to burst your bubble. But basketball was created by us canadians =)
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America has a culture just like Europe and every single european country has.
The difference is, that Europe has a larger varity of culture.
3000 years of history formed so many unique things, while America has 300 years of history, thats what America lacks a bit.
Some ppl are pretty harsh and would concider America - if it would disappear right now - just another nation like Rome, created by Europeans and finally failing to survive.
Whoever thinks like that doesnt know that
a) America is much more than that, because of multiculture influences.
b) There where quite high developed cultures in the past thousands of years on the American continent as well.
c) With saying that America has no culture, they basically say Rome had no culture as well - the biggest possible fail.
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On January 21 2012 22:11 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:09 mcc wrote:On January 21 2012 21:57 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:55 mcc wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 20:55 Khenra wrote:
When I visited New York the one thing that really struck me was the lack of old buildings. The few 'old' buildings in Manhattan are only like 200 years old. Compared to most cities in Europe, where you can find buildings over 400 years old everywhere in the city centres, that's quite a shocker.
In Europe our culture comes from very old traditions, going back hundreds of years. The civilized United States simply aren't that old. To the guy above saying that the United States are older than most countries in Europe: the names of the countries may have changed, but we had people living here for thousands of years. When the Europeans came to America they killed all the inhabitants, thus destroying any culture that was going on there. That's a part of our culture -- modernization. Nothing but the best. There are still some pretty old buildings in New York, especially the Churches and most notably Federal Hall, built in 1842, complete with the statue of George Washington, first President of the United States. You can be modern and still have aesthetically pleasing creations, but I am not really having a problem with New York, more with smaller cities and suburbs. Especially glaring is the copying of the styles of ancient Rome and Greece even in public buildings (White house I am looking at you ). Why not use a style that actually fits into the surrounding terrain/plant-life/climate/existing architecture. But that is unfortunately not purely American problem, it is just more visible in US. But European architecture is damned beautiful. It would be folly to not go for that style. Should we have our own? Yeah, but not exclusively our own. It should be mixed in. Yes, but pick the European style that suits the environment. Roman-style is not appropriate for most of US. Haha, I had almost come to associate that style with the US government. They seem to use only that style a lot. But I think it's more of a dedication to one of the greatest democracies to ever exist. I'm sure that went through the building(s) designer(')s(') mind(s) when they decided on that.
I don't know if by the greatest democracy to exist you mean Greece or Rome, but both were extremely poor democracies in modern standards. You could probably find better democracies than them in 1776. But as for the style I am sure it was meant exactly like that. I think it was a link to Rome more than to Greece, considering US is a republic and not a direct democracy. Also as far as I know creators of US system were more impressed with practical solutions of Romans as opposed to "purity" of Greek democracy. But still, it is a terrible style for non-Mediterranean climate.
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To clarify to some Americans:
I hear that 24/7, and even when I lived in America, I heard it a lot.
Don't believe it to be true.
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On January 21 2012 22:30 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:28 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar.
Both are desired.
Both can be used to rape and pillage.
Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes.
Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No.
Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote:
America is the largest economy in the world.
This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world.
To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just...
That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck. I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise). "On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English. It doesn't. Let's say something stupid like: Roman armies in the year 0 were on the level of Japanese armies in the year 1600.(if that's true or not isn't important here) Now that they are on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency doesn't mean that they were similiar to each other. PS:
Using your example:
Roman armies in the year 0 were similar to Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency.
Roman armies in the year 0 were on the same level of Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency.
They mean the exact same thing...
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On January 21 2012 22:32 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:11 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 22:09 mcc wrote:On January 21 2012 21:57 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:55 mcc wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 20:55 Khenra wrote:
When I visited New York the one thing that really struck me was the lack of old buildings. The few 'old' buildings in Manhattan are only like 200 years old. Compared to most cities in Europe, where you can find buildings over 400 years old everywhere in the city centres, that's quite a shocker.
In Europe our culture comes from very old traditions, going back hundreds of years. The civilized United States simply aren't that old. To the guy above saying that the United States are older than most countries in Europe: the names of the countries may have changed, but we had people living here for thousands of years. When the Europeans came to America they killed all the inhabitants, thus destroying any culture that was going on there. That's a part of our culture -- modernization. Nothing but the best. There are still some pretty old buildings in New York, especially the Churches and most notably Federal Hall, built in 1842, complete with the statue of George Washington, first President of the United States. You can be modern and still have aesthetically pleasing creations, but I am not really having a problem with New York, more with smaller cities and suburbs. Especially glaring is the copying of the styles of ancient Rome and Greece even in public buildings (White house I am looking at you ). Why not use a style that actually fits into the surrounding terrain/plant-life/climate/existing architecture. But that is unfortunately not purely American problem, it is just more visible in US. But European architecture is damned beautiful. It would be folly to not go for that style. Should we have our own? Yeah, but not exclusively our own. It should be mixed in. Yes, but pick the European style that suits the environment. Roman-style is not appropriate for most of US. Haha, I had almost come to associate that style with the US government. They seem to use only that style a lot. But I think it's more of a dedication to one of the greatest democracies to ever exist. I'm sure that went through the building(s) designer(')s(') mind(s) when they decided on that. I don't know if by the greatest democracy to exist you mean Greece or Rome, but both were extremely poor democracies in modern standards. You could probably find better democracies than them in 1776. But as for the style I am sure it was meant exactly like that. I think it was a link to Rome more than to Greece, considering US is a republic and not a direct democracy. Also as far as I know creators of US system were more impressed with practical solutions of Romans as opposed to "purity" of Greek democracy. But still, it is a terrible style for non-Mediterranean climate.
I mean Great in terms of power, and we borrow a lot of Greek and Roman styles. Indeed, in the founding of the USA we sought to be nothing like Rome or Greece. The Federalist Papers outline why democracy is bad, and republicanism is best (not the political parties, the political systems). I wonder what would work in America though? I suppose because of the various climates we would need a variety of architecture.
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On January 21 2012 22:35 seiferoth10 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:30 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:28 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar.
Both are desired.
Both can be used to rape and pillage.
Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes.
Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No.
Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote:
America is the largest economy in the world.
This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world.
To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just...
That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck. I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise). "On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English. It doesn't. Let's say something stupid like: Roman armies in the year 0 were on the level of Japanese armies in the year 1600.(if that's true or not isn't important here) Now that they are on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency doesn't mean that they were similiar to each other. PS: ...you better practive your english Using your example: Roman armies in the year 0 were similar to Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. Roman armies in the year 0 were on the same level of Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. They mean the exact same thing...
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Think a second
So they were on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency.
BUT THEY WERE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IN MOST OTHER CATEGORIES.
Do you get it now?
If I would've ment to say that they are similiar then I would've said that, not that they are not on the same niveau.
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On January 21 2012 22:35 seiferoth10 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:30 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:28 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:23 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:19 seiferoth10 wrote:On January 21 2012 22:15 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 22:04 Chargelot wrote:
A large economy and a large genitalia are very similar.
Both are desired.
Both can be used to rape and pillage.
Both are best when large, independent of the aforementioned rape.
Should we stop raping China and Mexico? Hell yes.
Does it make our economy "bad" because we do? No.
Is our economy "bad"? Compared to what it was, sure, but we're still doing a hell of a lot better than Tijuana ever was. I don't wanna say that your economy is at the level of a thrid world country, but it's just big, not good. On January 21 2012 22:06 mcc wrote:
America is the largest economy in the world.
This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world.
To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just...
That person also said wealth, which is far from true, so Thank you I'd love for you to prove that the US economy is similar to a majority of the third world countries, and by extension very different than the majority of first world countries. Good luck. I didn't say similiar to, I just said on the level of(wealthwise). "On the level of" doesn't mean "similar"? Uhh... you better practice your English. It doesn't. Let's say something stupid like: Roman armies in the year 0 were on the level of Japanese armies in the year 1600.(if that's true or not isn't important here) Now that they are on the same level in terms of fighting efficiency doesn't mean that they were similiar to each other. PS: ...you better practive your english Using your example: Roman armies in the year 0 were similar to Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. Roman armies in the year 0 were on the same level of Japanese armies in the year 1600 in terms of fighting efficiency. They mean the exact same thing...
If Americans payed off their debts they'd be a third world country in terms of wealth. http://www.usdebtclock.org/
I don't think there's a similarity apart from that except for the religious fundamentalism and lack of education.
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