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On January 21 2012 21:29 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:24 Talin wrote:On January 21 2012 21:04 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:03 voy wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. oh gosh nothing but trees? true. but they did apear from nowhere, those guy who build that culture... they came from Europe  No, they left Europe and then broke political connections through military action. There's a qualitative difference. It's important to now separate the two factions that existed after settlement. The Europeans loyal to Europe, and the Europeans loyal to this new land. Neither of those two factions existed... ever. They didn't even exist in a figurative sense. That is a completely romanticized and made up oversimplification of what actually happened and what made people leave Europe to America or side with that "military action" against European imperialism. Do you really think that most of the Irish people that left to America felt no connection or loyalty towards their homeland and culture? That would be very ironic considering that loyalty is actually a huge part of why they had to leave in the first place. -__- Study actual American history from pre-Revolutionary War to the ratification of the Constitution, and make sure you read all of the Federalist papers.
Obviously I am going to devote several months of my life to study a topic some random forum user recommended because he had no other means of defending the nonsensical claims he made. That seems perfectly reasonable.
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On January 21 2012 21:35 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:33 kobrakai wrote:On January 21 2012 21:11 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:09 HoldenR wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc. There are always people who hate whoevers on top, and it doesn't have to be about just countries.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. You cannot dismiss everyone's critic as saying "well it must just because you're jealous because we're better than you!!" This is why the rest of the world hates your country. The "A" in USA might as well stand for arrogance, and it's people like you who make the rest of the world hate you. Be proud. And now every point you made in this thread is irrelevant, because you've just proven you only made said points because you hate America and Americans. Thanks for stooping to his level. You do your people great justice when you do that. You take issue with the reply but not with the initial post? So I assume that you believe that people that dislike America are just jealous? Every post you have made in this thread is thus irrelevant. PS. I felt really stupid typing that, I hope you felt the same (but i suspect you didn't). I said you stooped to his level, implying his level was quite low. You and he took the same path, a stupid one based on nationalist pride.
Nationalist pride? What?
I think you might be confusing me with HoldenR, I think you should learn to read :/
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On January 21 2012 21:29 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:24 Talin wrote:On January 21 2012 21:04 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:03 voy wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. oh gosh nothing but trees? true. but they did apear from nowhere, those guy who build that culture... they came from Europe No, they left Europe and then broke political connections through military action. There's a qualitative difference. It's important to now separate the two factions that existed after settlement. The Europeans loyal to Europe, and the Europeans loyal to this new land. Neither of those two factions existed... ever. They didn't even exist in a figurative sense. That is a completely romanticized and made up oversimplification of what actually happened and what made people leave Europe to America or side with that "military action" against European imperialism. Do you really think that most of the Irish people that left to America felt no connection or loyalty towards their homeland and culture? That would be very ironic considering that loyalty is actually a huge part of why they had to leave in the first place. -__- Study actual American history from pre-Revolutionary War to the ratification of the Constitution, and make sure you read all of the Federalist papers. Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:27 IveReturned wrote:On January 21 2012 21:24 mdb wrote:America has the best culture if you ask me Which aspect of it is better than others? Advertising is not culture. They have no advertisements in Turkey? I will get on a plane right now and declare my undying loyalty to the Turkish people.
They advertise well , thats because you find their culture "the best". They make toi think its the best. Is there anything better and more refined than the Turkish culture?
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My house is older than america - just saying.
Morreover why do you care so much that people say you have no culture? Do you want to talk about something>
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On January 21 2012 21:38 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:29 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:24 Talin wrote:On January 21 2012 21:04 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:03 voy wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. oh gosh nothing but trees? true. but they did apear from nowhere, those guy who build that culture... they came from Europe No, they left Europe and then broke political connections through military action. There's a qualitative difference. It's important to now separate the two factions that existed after settlement. The Europeans loyal to Europe, and the Europeans loyal to this new land. Neither of those two factions existed... ever. They didn't even exist in a figurative sense. That is a completely romanticized and made up oversimplification of what actually happened and what made people leave Europe to America or side with that "military action" against European imperialism. Do you really think that most of the Irish people that left to America felt no connection or loyalty towards their homeland and culture? That would be very ironic considering that loyalty is actually a huge part of why they had to leave in the first place. -__- Study actual American history from pre-Revolutionary War to the ratification of the Constitution, and make sure you read all of the Federalist papers. Obviously I am going to devote several months of my life to study a topic some random forum user recommended because he had no other means of defending the nonsensical claims he made. That seems perfectly reasonable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_(American_Revolution)
I have. And while there is a lot of romanticizing going on in history classes in middle school, you get to learn about these men for real in university. The Sons of Liberty really did exist, and there were large factions of anti-British. Whether they came from Ireland or the Netherlands, even if they loved their home land greatly, they still fought for America against the British who sought only to annex the country for wealth.
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I have seriously never heard anyone say that America has no culture. But hey, I live in Sweden and we're really the wrong people to say anything about culture, aren't we?
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On January 21 2012 21:34 seansye wrote:
Anyways America is very young and it's creating its own unique culture and history everyday. Five hundred years from now, America will probably be compared to countries like Egypt, Rome, Greece, Great Brit, etc...
Yeah... no.
By the way, Rome isn't a country.
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On January 21 2012 21:38 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:35 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 21:28 white_horse wrote:On January 21 2012 21:03 voy wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. oh gosh nothing but trees? true. but they didnt apear from nowhere, those guy who build that culture... they came from Europe I have nothing against USA, but really, dont say stupid things. Yeah it was just way to characterize how there wasn't a european style "country". I'm sure there was more than just trees on the north american continent, thanks for pointing that out. to say that america doesn't have a culture is silly to begin with because there isn't an existing "american race" that has a "culture" that europeans would consider what they think is "developed" culture. The american culture that you see today is made up from immigrants. what is wrong about that and what is so wrong that the descendents of these immigrants don't have a culture that what you think is "developed"? I think the problem is that america doesn't have one culture, it has many cultures as a multicultural country. The Melting Pot didn't work, the salad bowl kinda did, and that's where you're at right now. Although many citizens of the USA have certain "american" things they share with each other you're still no fully american country, large parts of your people just belong to a country with many people from all over the world connected by certain "american" traditions and habits. Notice that I'm not saying that there are no "american" americans, but large parts of your citizens consider themselves americans and others would say they are americans too, while they still kept parts of the culture of the countries they or their driect ancestors came from, which they don't share with most of their fellow americans. Thank you for understanding this. American culture is made up of a thousand other cultures practiced within arms length of one another. It's a very rare occasion that I am in a room full of people who are just like me, and in truth, I prefer the diversity.
I don't only undestand you, I understand the guy you argued with too and partially, I agree with him(sorry).
One reason why there's a certain dislike of americans(not american individuals) in the world is that you see yourself as the #1, although america has many faults and that disproportional pride and nationalism is one of those faults(although a very human one).
For example, somebody here said that america is "[...]economically[...] the #1", he mentioned other things aswell, which might be wrong too, but I especially remember this one because it made me laugh(once again sorry) because of the HUGE export/import deficit america has and several other reasons.
Now that doesn't make you a bad people and especially not bad individuals, but you have to understand that this kind of attitude(which could be described as arrogance as one here did) doesn't really make you popular.
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On January 21 2012 21:43 Zexion wrote:
I have seriously never heard anyone say that America has no culture. But hey, I live in Sweden and we're really the wrong people to say anything about culture, aren't we?
Why is that?
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It's so good to see that the propaganda machine in Europe functions so well, that the average European person thinks there is none. Too many people trust their national television broadcasts to be as true as you can be, which shows just how masterful they have become at hiding the true intetions.
A general question to the European posters here, who holds animosity towards Greece or Greek people because they 'caused the euro-crisis'? Now who of you truly knows what caused the euro crisis? I'm willing to bet the number of the former is much higher than the latter.
On January 21 2012 20:55 DOUDOU wrote:
imo people says americans have no culture to say that they don't know anything about the world apart from USA
"Correlation does not imply causation" comes to mind with this one. All you are trying to do is justify the ignorance of people around you by comparing it to the ignorance of Americans. No culture does not equal Not knowing anything of the world besides yourself. You might aswell say "Tomatoes are red, that's why the sun is shining".
On January 21 2012 21:14 Laurence wrote:
Never heard someone say America has no culture cause that's obviously not true. What is true though is that Americans (in general) are terribly ignorant about other cultures.
And European media has masterfully engineered an elitism in favour of ourselves to spread that message. General populace doesn't care about countries around them because they don't affect them. It is only natural that people from their own countries get fed their own history over those of other nations. Asking an American where Belarus is positioned will yield the same result of asking a European about the position of Michigan.
On January 21 2012 21:27 IveReturned wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:24 mdb wrote:America has the best culture if you ask me Which aspect of it is better than others? Advertising is not culture.
If I remember correctly, every damn nation on the planet uses advertising. It was not invented by the US at all. Julius Caesar used advertising of his godliness on coins. Martin Luther used advertising ( not to be confused with Martin Luther King mind you ). Napoleon used advertising.
Advertising is just a sub-form of propaganda ( the spreading of a message that's beneficial to the sender, but not neccesarily for the reciever ) and no, not just the US is drenched in it. Every nation on earth has it.
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On January 21 2012 21:45 Maxquatre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:34 seansye wrote:
Anyways America is very young and it's creating its own unique culture and history everyday. Five hundred years from now, America will probably be compared to countries like Egypt, Rome, Greece, Great Brit, etc...
Yeah... no. By the way, Rome isn't a country.
Ancient Rome was a lot more than a country.
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On January 21 2012 21:01 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 20:55 Khenra wrote:
When I visited New York the one thing that really struck me was the lack of old buildings. The few 'old' buildings in Manhattan are only like 200 years old. Compared to most cities in Europe, where you can find buildings over 400 years old everywhere in the city centres, that's quite a shocker.
In Europe our culture comes from very old traditions, going back hundreds of years. The civilized United States simply aren't that old. To the guy above saying that the United States are older than most countries in Europe: the names of the countries may have changed, but we had people living here for thousands of years. When the Europeans came to America they killed all the inhabitants, thus destroying any culture that was going on there. That's a part of our culture -- modernization. Nothing but the best. There are still some pretty old buildings in New York, especially the Churches and most notably Federal Hall, built in 1842, complete with the statue of George Washington, first President of the United States.
You can be modern and still have aesthetically pleasing creations, but I am not really having a problem with New York, more with smaller cities and suburbs. Especially glaring is the copying of the styles of ancient Rome and Greece even in public buildings (White house I am looking at you ). Why not use a style that actually fits into the surrounding terrain/plant-life/climate/existing architecture. But that is unfortunately not purely American problem, it is just more visible in US.
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On January 21 2012 21:46 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:38 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:35 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 21:28 white_horse wrote:On January 21 2012 21:03 voy wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. oh gosh nothing but trees? true. but they didnt apear from nowhere, those guy who build that culture... they came from Europe I have nothing against USA, but really, dont say stupid things. Yeah it was just way to characterize how there wasn't a european style "country". I'm sure there was more than just trees on the north american continent, thanks for pointing that out. to say that america doesn't have a culture is silly to begin with because there isn't an existing "american race" that has a "culture" that europeans would consider what they think is "developed" culture. The american culture that you see today is made up from immigrants. what is wrong about that and what is so wrong that the descendents of these immigrants don't have a culture that what you think is "developed"? I think the problem is that america doesn't have one culture, it has many cultures as a multicultural country. The Melting Pot didn't work, the salad bowl kinda did, and that's where you're at right now. Although many citizens of the USA have certain "american" things they share with each other you're still no fully american country, large parts of your people just belong to a country with many people from all over the world connected by certain "american" traditions and habits. Notice that I'm not saying that there are no "american" americans, but large parts of your citizens consider themselves americans and others would say they are americans too, while they still kept parts of the culture of the countries they or their driect ancestors came from, which they don't share with most of their fellow americans. Thank you for understanding this. American culture is made up of a thousand other cultures practiced within arms length of one another. It's a very rare occasion that I am in a room full of people who are just like me, and in truth, I prefer the diversity. I don't only undestand you, I understand the guy you argued with too and partially, I agree with him(sorry). One reason why there's a certain dislike of americans(not american individuals) in the world is that you see yourself as the #1, although america has many faults and that disproportional pride and nationalism is one of those faults(although a very human one). For example, somebody here said that america is "[...]economically[...] the #1", he mentioned other things aswell, which might be wrong too, but I especially remember this one because it made me laugh(once again sorry) because of the HUGE export/import deficit america has and several other reasons. Now that doesn't make you a bad people and especially not bad individuals, but you have to understand that this kind of attitude(which could be described as arrogance as one here did) doesn't really make you popular.
America is the largest economy in the world.
This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world.
To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just...
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On January 21 2012 21:46 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:38 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:35 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 21:28 white_horse wrote:On January 21 2012 21:03 voy wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. oh gosh nothing but trees? true. but they didnt apear from nowhere, those guy who build that culture... they came from Europe I have nothing against USA, but really, dont say stupid things. Yeah it was just way to characterize how there wasn't a european style "country". I'm sure there was more than just trees on the north american continent, thanks for pointing that out. to say that america doesn't have a culture is silly to begin with because there isn't an existing "american race" that has a "culture" that europeans would consider what they think is "developed" culture. The american culture that you see today is made up from immigrants. what is wrong about that and what is so wrong that the descendents of these immigrants don't have a culture that what you think is "developed"? I think the problem is that america doesn't have one culture, it has many cultures as a multicultural country. The Melting Pot didn't work, the salad bowl kinda did, and that's where you're at right now. Although many citizens of the USA have certain "american" things they share with each other you're still no fully american country, large parts of your people just belong to a country with many people from all over the world connected by certain "american" traditions and habits. Notice that I'm not saying that there are no "american" americans, but large parts of your citizens consider themselves americans and others would say they are americans too, while they still kept parts of the culture of the countries they or their driect ancestors came from, which they don't share with most of their fellow americans. Thank you for understanding this. American culture is made up of a thousand other cultures practiced within arms length of one another. It's a very rare occasion that I am in a room full of people who are just like me, and in truth, I prefer the diversity. I don't only undestand you, I understand the guy you argued with too and partially, I agree with him(sorry). One reason why there's a certain dislike of americans(not american individuals) in the world is that you see yourself as the #1, although america has many faults and that disproportional pride and nationalism is one of those faults(although a very human one). For example, somebody here said that america is "[...]economically[...] the #1", he mentioned other things aswell, which might be wrong too, but I especially remember this one because it made me laugh(once again sorry) because of the HUGE export/import deficit america has and several other reasons. Now that doesn't make you a bad people and especially not bad individuals, but you have to understand that this kind of attitude(which could be described as arrogance as one here did) doesn't really make you popular.
So talking about facts suddenly make me the stereotypical arrogant american? Might as well just tell me that you think all americans have some kind of high-horse attitude. America has the biggest economy in the world and the strongest military in the world. Those are facts. Does reading those lines make your stomach hurt? Then you have a complex.
Anyways, did I say that "USA is the strongest and we can do anything we want because everyone else sucks"? I was simply stating in my previous post that because america is a global hegemony, a lot of people find that as a reason to hate it. There are people in china, korea, japan, parts of middle east, parts of europe who bash america yet they want to send their kids there to study at american universities or they want to immigrate there. If that isn't jealousy or a complex I don't what is.
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On January 21 2012 21:55 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:01 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 20:55 Khenra wrote:
When I visited New York the one thing that really struck me was the lack of old buildings. The few 'old' buildings in Manhattan are only like 200 years old. Compared to most cities in Europe, where you can find buildings over 400 years old everywhere in the city centres, that's quite a shocker.
In Europe our culture comes from very old traditions, going back hundreds of years. The civilized United States simply aren't that old. To the guy above saying that the United States are older than most countries in Europe: the names of the countries may have changed, but we had people living here for thousands of years. When the Europeans came to America they killed all the inhabitants, thus destroying any culture that was going on there. That's a part of our culture -- modernization. Nothing but the best. There are still some pretty old buildings in New York, especially the Churches and most notably Federal Hall, built in 1842, complete with the statue of George Washington, first President of the United States. You can be modern and still have aesthetically pleasing creations, but I am not really having a problem with New York, more with smaller cities and suburbs. Especially glaring is the copying of the styles of ancient Rome and Greece even in public buildings (White house I am looking at you ). Why not use a style that actually fits into the surrounding terrain/plant-life/climate/existing architecture. But that is unfortunately not purely American problem, it is just more visible in US.
But European architecture is damned beautiful. It would be folly to not go for that style. Should we have our own? Yeah, but not exclusively our own. It should be mixed in.
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On January 21 2012 21:46 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:38 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:35 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 21:28 white_horse wrote:On January 21 2012 21:03 voy wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. oh gosh nothing but trees? true. but they didnt apear from nowhere, those guy who build that culture... they came from Europe I have nothing against USA, but really, dont say stupid things. Yeah it was just way to characterize how there wasn't a european style "country". I'm sure there was more than just trees on the north american continent, thanks for pointing that out. to say that america doesn't have a culture is silly to begin with because there isn't an existing "american race" that has a "culture" that europeans would consider what they think is "developed" culture. The american culture that you see today is made up from immigrants. what is wrong about that and what is so wrong that the descendents of these immigrants don't have a culture that what you think is "developed"? I think the problem is that america doesn't have one culture, it has many cultures as a multicultural country. The Melting Pot didn't work, the salad bowl kinda did, and that's where you're at right now. Although many citizens of the USA have certain "american" things they share with each other you're still no fully american country, large parts of your people just belong to a country with many people from all over the world connected by certain "american" traditions and habits. Notice that I'm not saying that there are no "american" americans, but large parts of your citizens consider themselves americans and others would say they are americans too, while they still kept parts of the culture of the countries they or their driect ancestors came from, which they don't share with most of their fellow americans. Thank you for understanding this. American culture is made up of a thousand other cultures practiced within arms length of one another. It's a very rare occasion that I am in a room full of people who are just like me, and in truth, I prefer the diversity. I don't only undestand you, I understand the guy you argued with too and partially, I agree with him(sorry). One reason why there's a certain dislike of americans(not american individuals) in the world is that you see yourself as the #1, although america has many faults and that disproportional pride and nationalism is one of those faults(although a very human one). For example, somebody here said that america is "[...]economically[...] the #1", he mentioned other things aswell, which might be wrong too, but I especially remember this one because it made me laugh(once again sorry) because of the HUGE export/import deficit america has and several other reasons. Now that doesn't make you a bad people and especially not bad individuals, but you have to understand that this kind of attitude(which could be described as arrogance as one here did) doesn't really make you popular.
But we ARE the leading nation economically, right now. We have been for a while. We will certainly be overtaken in the future by China and eventually India, but right now we are indeed #1. That is a fact. Is it arrogant to provide factual information? I don't think so, but I guess if that factual information says that you're the best, it'll be viewed as arrogance by lesser parties.
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On January 21 2012 21:56 zalz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:46 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 21:38 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:35 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 21:28 white_horse wrote:On January 21 2012 21:03 voy wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. oh gosh nothing but trees? true. but they didnt apear from nowhere, those guy who build that culture... they came from Europe I have nothing against USA, but really, dont say stupid things. Yeah it was just way to characterize how there wasn't a european style "country". I'm sure there was more than just trees on the north american continent, thanks for pointing that out. to say that america doesn't have a culture is silly to begin with because there isn't an existing "american race" that has a "culture" that europeans would consider what they think is "developed" culture. The american culture that you see today is made up from immigrants. what is wrong about that and what is so wrong that the descendents of these immigrants don't have a culture that what you think is "developed"? I think the problem is that america doesn't have one culture, it has many cultures as a multicultural country. The Melting Pot didn't work, the salad bowl kinda did, and that's where you're at right now. Although many citizens of the USA have certain "american" things they share with each other you're still no fully american country, large parts of your people just belong to a country with many people from all over the world connected by certain "american" traditions and habits. Notice that I'm not saying that there are no "american" americans, but large parts of your citizens consider themselves americans and others would say they are americans too, while they still kept parts of the culture of the countries they or their driect ancestors came from, which they don't share with most of their fellow americans. Thank you for understanding this. American culture is made up of a thousand other cultures practiced within arms length of one another. It's a very rare occasion that I am in a room full of people who are just like me, and in truth, I prefer the diversity. I don't only undestand you, I understand the guy you argued with too and partially, I agree with him(sorry). One reason why there's a certain dislike of americans(not american individuals) in the world is that you see yourself as the #1, although america has many faults and that disproportional pride and nationalism is one of those faults(although a very human one). For example, somebody here said that america is "[...]economically[...] the #1", he mentioned other things aswell, which might be wrong too, but I especially remember this one because it made me laugh(once again sorry) because of the HUGE export/import deficit america has and several other reasons. Now that doesn't make you a bad people and especially not bad individuals, but you have to understand that this kind of attitude(which could be described as arrogance as one here did) doesn't really make you popular. America is the largest economy in the world. This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world. To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just...
large=/=best
I think that should be obvious
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On January 21 2012 21:55 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:45 Maxquatre wrote:On January 21 2012 21:34 seansye wrote:
Anyways America is very young and it's creating its own unique culture and history everyday. Five hundred years from now, America will probably be compared to countries like Egypt, Rome, Greece, Great Brit, etc...
Yeah... no. By the way, Rome isn't a country. Ancient Rome was a lot more than a country.
A realm, a republic, an empire if you want but many people will strongly disagree it was a country.
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Just saying.
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On January 21 2012 22:00 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 21:56 zalz wrote:On January 21 2012 21:46 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 21:38 Chargelot wrote:On January 21 2012 21:35 SilentchiLL wrote:On January 21 2012 21:28 white_horse wrote:On January 21 2012 21:03 voy wrote:On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote:
the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc.
In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. oh gosh nothing but trees? true. but they didnt apear from nowhere, those guy who build that culture... they came from Europe I have nothing against USA, but really, dont say stupid things. Yeah it was just way to characterize how there wasn't a european style "country". I'm sure there was more than just trees on the north american continent, thanks for pointing that out. to say that america doesn't have a culture is silly to begin with because there isn't an existing "american race" that has a "culture" that europeans would consider what they think is "developed" culture. The american culture that you see today is made up from immigrants. what is wrong about that and what is so wrong that the descendents of these immigrants don't have a culture that what you think is "developed"? I think the problem is that america doesn't have one culture, it has many cultures as a multicultural country. The Melting Pot didn't work, the salad bowl kinda did, and that's where you're at right now. Although many citizens of the USA have certain "american" things they share with each other you're still no fully american country, large parts of your people just belong to a country with many people from all over the world connected by certain "american" traditions and habits. Notice that I'm not saying that there are no "american" americans, but large parts of your citizens consider themselves americans and others would say they are americans too, while they still kept parts of the culture of the countries they or their driect ancestors came from, which they don't share with most of their fellow americans. Thank you for understanding this. American culture is made up of a thousand other cultures practiced within arms length of one another. It's a very rare occasion that I am in a room full of people who are just like me, and in truth, I prefer the diversity. I don't only undestand you, I understand the guy you argued with too and partially, I agree with him(sorry). One reason why there's a certain dislike of americans(not american individuals) in the world is that you see yourself as the #1, although america has many faults and that disproportional pride and nationalism is one of those faults(although a very human one). For example, somebody here said that america is "[...]economically[...] the #1", he mentioned other things aswell, which might be wrong too, but I especially remember this one because it made me laugh(once again sorry) because of the HUGE export/import deficit america has and several other reasons. Now that doesn't make you a bad people and especially not bad individuals, but you have to understand that this kind of attitude(which could be described as arrogance as one here did) doesn't really make you popular. America is the largest economy in the world. This is just a fact, i don't see why we need to dispute that. It might not be like that forever, but that doesn't change the current fact of life. The USA is the largest economy in the entire world. To actually go on and ridicule a person for being accurate is just... large=/=best I think that should be obvious
The quotation says that America's economy is #1. Which is accurate.
Also, in terms of economy, yes, bigger = better.
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