EPTOn January 21 2012 21:04 seiferoth10 wrote:
*annihilated the existing culture and built a new one
*annihilated the existing culture and built a new one
True, Cortez, Vasco da Gama, even Columbus.. and noone should be proud of that :/
Americans have no culture? - Page 10
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voy
Poland348 Posts
True, Cortez, Vasco da Gama, even Columbus.. and noone should be proud of that :/ | ||
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zimz
United States510 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6230 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:01 Chargelot wrote: That's a part of our culture -- modernization. Nothing but the best. There are still some pretty old buildings in New York, especially the Churches and most notably Federal Hall, built in 1842, complete with the statue of George Washington, first President of the United States. 1842 isn't that old though, for example in Amsterdam you have mutiple buildings from the 16th and 17th century and there are cities that have way older buildings ( Rome, Athens). So while 1842 is a while ago it's not nearly as long as buildings in Europe which is only a logical consequence of not excisting as long obviously. | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:05 RvB wrote: 1842 isn't that old though, for example in Amsterdam you have mutiple buildings from the 16th and 17th century and there are cities that have way older buildings ( Rome, Athens). So while 1842 is a while ago it's not nearly as long as buildings in Europe which is only a logical consequence of not excisting as long obviously. But consider the age of the buildings versus the age of the country. I'm sure they're relatively close in this respect. Also, you should see the Washington, DC area sometime if you haven't. A lot of cool things from the 1600's-1800's are there. http://dc.about.com/od/communities/tp/WashingtonDCHistoricBuildings.htm I've seen a lot of these actually. They're really nice. | ||
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seiferoth10
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HoldenR
Netherlands256 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote: the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc. There are always people who hate whoevers on top, and it doesn't have to be about just countries. In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. You cannot dismiss everyone's critic as saying "well it must just because you're jealous because we're better than you!!" This is why the rest of the world hates your country. The "A" in USA might as well stand for arrogance, and it's people like you who make the rest of the world hate you. Be proud. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
Anyway the other day I watched Moonshiners, a show on Discovery. That is one aspect of american culture in my opinion, and I loved it. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
It's just me or reaaaally in the USA people are learning like what happened every day in the USA since the XVIII century, but they dont now anything about european/asian history? I have never in my life met even a single person in Holland that could give an accurate description of the US civil war. I seriously believe that not even 10% of europeans could name the 2 sides in the US civil war. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:01 white_horse wrote: the way people make fun of america just suggests that they have a complex against the #1 country in the world in terms of wealth, influence, military, economy, etc. There are always people who hate whoevers on top, and it doesn't have to be about just countries. In any case, its so fucking stupid especially for europeans who bash america for its culture. We've been around for uh 250 years? and european cultures had thousands of years to develop. Thousands of years ago in america there was nothing but trees and native americans. so many haters around the world. Seriously? this has got to be a joke...believe it or not, almost no one is jealous of your "#1" position...contrary to the popular belief in America, Europeans do NOT strive to be like you. And think again if you believe that you're #1 in terms of wealth or economy...considering that the latest news report that the unemployment rate is ~50% in America and a lot of business are going down :/ | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:09 HoldenR wrote: You cannot dismiss everyone's critic as saying "well it must just because you're jealous because we're better than you!!" This is why the rest of the world hates your country. The "A" in USA might as well stand for arrogance, and it's people like you who make the rest of the world hate you. Be proud. And now every point you made in this thread is irrelevant, because you've just proven you only made said points because you hate America and Americans. Thanks for stooping to his level. You do your people great justice when you do that. On January 21 2012 21:11 Kotreb wrote: Seriously? this has got to be a joke...believe it or not, almost no one is jealous of your "#1" position...contrary to the popular belief in America, Europeans do NOT strive to be like you. And think again if you believe that you're #1 in terms of wealth or economy...considering that the latest news report that the unemployment rate is ~50% in America and a lot of business are going down :/ Whichever news organization told Croatians that unemployment is ~50% in America fucking lied so hard that the world population decreased by 10% because their brains exploded from the stupidity. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6230 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:06 Chargelot wrote: But consider the age of the buildings versus the age of the country. I'm sure they're relatively close in this respect. I guess that's true, but like I said earlier culture isn't just old buildings, America obviously has a culture though a lot of things in Europe came over from America because they've been the country with the most power for a couple of decades thats just how it works. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17341 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:01 Chargelot wrote: That's a part of our culture -- modernization. Nothing but the best. There are still some pretty old buildings in New York, especially the Churches and most notably Federal Hall, built in 1842, complete with the statue of George Washington, first President of the United States. 1842 is not old. Highschool I attended is older... | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:09 zalz wrote: I have never in my life met even a single person in Holland that could give an accurate description of the US civil war. I seriously believe that not even 10% of europeans could name the 2 sides in the US civil war. That only means that your history(and maybe english) classes are pretty bad(this isn't ment as an insult here, I just thought that that claim and especially the number you gave are rediculous) | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
american culture is everywhere, especially in music. | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:11 Kotreb wrote: Seriously? this has got to be a joke...believe it or not, almost no one is jealous of your "#1" position...contrary to the popular belief in America, Europeans do NOT strive to be like you. And think again if you believe that you're #1 in terms of wealth or economy...considering that the latest news report that the unemployment rate is ~50% in America and a lot of business are going down :/ To further address this, the unemployment rate is officially 8.5%. What the fuck kind of news do you people get over there? | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17341 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:12 SilentchiLL wrote: That only means that your history(and maybe english) classes are pretty bad(this isn't ment as an insult here, I just thought that that claim and especially the number you gave are rediculous) I know the sides and some of the reasons for that war, but no details (and mind you, I've been studying history for 3 years at the university). It's just so insignificant compared to the history of the rest of the world that except people who'd like to specialize in history of USA don't even bother to learn about it. I guess this would be accurate for Holland too. I don't think I had more than 1 class in highschool that would cover the subject of US civil war. | ||
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Laurence
Ireland119 Posts
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:14 Manit0u wrote: I know the sides and some of the reasons for that war, but no details (and mind you, I've been studying history for 3 years at the university). It's just so insignificant compared to the history of the rest of the world that except people who'd like to specialize in history of USA don't even bother to learn about it. Do you know how much Polish history I've learned? There are very few parts of history which are universally relevant. Everyone has their own history that mostly everyone else doesn't learn. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On January 21 2012 19:58 dubRa wrote: The statement Americans have no culture is silly I think. Serious question for Americans and other Europeans: Is it required of students to learn poems by heart and present it in front of their class? American here. In high school (age 14-18) I remember having to memorize portions of Hamlet, Romeo and Juliet, and A Tale of Two Cities and reciting them in front of the class. I feel like there were more, as well as a poem or two, but these are the ones that I can still recite today. Back to the OP, I have heard people say that America has no culture, but many of those have been during political discussions on HerO's stream, so I try to ignore them before I start raging. I think a lot of the confusion surrounding culture in general derives from the ambiguity in the word itself. It has many meanings, and the meaning being used is often not given. I don't think there's any situation where someone could say the US has no culture, but I do feel that one could say that we are less culturally advanced than other nations. We have our own mannerisms, dialects, and traditions, that are specific to our nation/state/etc, but in terms of things that can be said to be truly "American", I think other countries have a bit of a leg up on us. That's not to say that we're that far behind (I think we're advancing rather quickly), but other countries have certainly had more time to develop. | ||
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