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Shafanhow
Profile Joined December 2009
United States47 Posts
January 10 2012 14:10 GMT
#521
On January 10 2012 23:08 Velr wrote:
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On January 10 2012 23:06 Shafanhow wrote:
It's obvious to me that a lot of people posting here have been living in ivory towers. This kid was persecuted mercilessly for a year. If help was coming for him from the powers that be it would have arrived by then. If you are lucky enough to be living in a Utopia where no violence ever occurs, good for you. The rest of us are going to have to defend ourselves when attacked. I'm glad this judge made the right decision. Did this kid deserve to die? Of course not. Did he bring it on himself? Absolutely.


That allows you not to fucking stab someone with a knive.

Yes, the kid probably had it rough... But the answer is not to fucking kill your bully.

The law says otherwise and rightly so.
Endeavor to persevere.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:12:37
January 10 2012 14:10 GMT
#522
On January 10 2012 22:55 Miss_Cleo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:48 Black[CAT] wrote:
The bully deserved to be killed. People like these are just waste of space.


Nobody deserves to be killed for bullying someone. Jose had other options to diffuse the situation, but he decided the best course of action was to stab someone to death.

Nobody deserves to be bullied each day, then surrounded by 10 punks who then beat the shit out of you.
Miss_Cleo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:16:30
January 10 2012 14:12 GMT
#523
On January 10 2012 23:05 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:55 Miss_Cleo wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:48 Black[CAT] wrote:
The bully deserved to be killed. People like these are just waste of space.


Nobody deserves to be killed for bullying someone. Jose had other options to diffuse the situation, but he decided the best course of action was to stab someone to death.


Yes. there are other options. But this was probably his last minute desperation attempt at not getting beaten up for no good reason for the unknown how many times of his life.

Seriously, its not like you can have a police bodyguarding you all the time.


OR CAN YOU?!

Sorry, had to.

Maybe not a bodyguard but telling someone could have helped. Even if it meant him changing schools to avoid further abuse, which is infinitely better than stabbing someone to death.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not sticking up for the bully, but death is a big price for such a crime, even if the person was complete trash.
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
January 10 2012 14:12 GMT
#524
I'm just sad the bullied kid felt his only recourse was to bring a knife to defend himself from the bully, that there were no teachers/parents/other children who intervened before this happens. Seriously, other children knew about the bullying but told no one? Teachers and both boys parents were completely blind? Saardeva's parent's had to notice their son was being bullied if it reached the point he was carrying a knife (even if he took it secretly 1) his parent's didn't notice and 2) you don't think there are any other signs?) and Nuno's parents must have known their son was a bully, something you'd hope he would have outgrown by the time he's 16. Bullying has been around forever and I don't know why but to me it feels like lately situations like this have become more common (or more publicized only?), where it reaches an extreme end like this. I can't really judge the actions of the kids because in my opinion at that age their actions are more a reflection of the people around them (not to totally absolve the bully from his behavior but I doubt the people around him cared to stop it, and I think they could have done something, nor to absolve the other kid from stabbing someone). It's not like the other child got off easy, imagine living with that for the rest of your life. Ah such a shame in my eyes T_T
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:17:34
January 10 2012 14:16 GMT
#525
Nuno's parents think he was a saint. He was the popular kid and complete douche bag.

Also not mentioned in the OP is that Saavedra is a special ed student.
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Miss_Cleo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:19:43
January 10 2012 14:19 GMT
#526
On January 10 2012 23:10 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:55 Miss_Cleo wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:48 Black[CAT] wrote:
The bully deserved to be killed. People like these are just waste of space.


Nobody deserves to be killed for bullying someone. Jose had other options to diffuse the situation, but he decided the best course of action was to stab someone to death.

Nobody deserves to be bullied each day, then surrounded by 10 punks who then beat the shit out of you.


I agree with you there. But my point still stands.
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:23:34
January 10 2012 14:21 GMT
#527
On January 10 2012 23:02 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:53 shizna wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:48 Black[CAT] wrote:
The bully deserved to be killed. People like these are just waste of space.


so if your son/daughter was bullying some kid at school, you'd be totally fine if the kid turned around and stabbed your son/daughter in the neck?

the kid consciously KILLED the bully with the intention of killing him. of course it occurred to the kid that he could scare the bully or injure the bully with the weapon, but no he kept the weapon concealed and then stabbed to kill.... like a cold-blooded psycho.


I would be mad if my kid bullied someone. Besides, it was self defense. Being bullied for a year. That is really painful for that kid.

And honestly, if some d-bag just bullied people for years and no contribution to society, would you deem him worthy to live? Of course we should not judge who should live or die. That bully will prolly turn into some useless criminal in the end or just trash of society.


i haven't seen any evidence that shows that 100% of bullies have no contribution to society?

i can empathize with people who have been bullied, i was bullied (being threatened, punched, kicked etc) by a few during secondary school years. from the same people who were my good friends in early school. but i would never wish harm upon them, even in self defense..

i have this thing called 'guilt', which makes me different from the bully. but i guess the 'victim' in the news story didn't have that.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:26:34
January 10 2012 14:24 GMT
#528
On January 10 2012 23:19 Miss_Cleo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:10 paralleluniverse wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:55 Miss_Cleo wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:48 Black[CAT] wrote:
The bully deserved to be killed. People like these are just waste of space.


Nobody deserves to be killed for bullying someone. Jose had other options to diffuse the situation, but he decided the best course of action was to stab someone to death.

Nobody deserves to be bullied each day, then surrounded by 10 punks who then beat the shit out of you.


I agree with you there. But my point still stands.

Self-defense. The kid got bashed, he defended himself, the bully got killed. There is nothing wrong here.

The kid was legally allowed to defend himself, and the courts agreed.

Could the situation have ended more ideally without someone being killed? Maybe, or maybe he would get beat up more. But regardless of whether there was a better ending, there is, again, nothing wrong here.
Fleshcut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany592 Posts
January 10 2012 14:26 GMT
#529
I hate it to see people go nuts after being bullied. Makes me sick that so many people get away with their sadistic bullshit for years. And then something like this happens and people complain that the victim didn't show any self-control while fighting back.

The victim is not guilty at all for what the society did to him.
Shafanhow
Profile Joined December 2009
United States47 Posts
January 10 2012 14:26 GMT
#530
On January 10 2012 23:21 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:02 Black[CAT] wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:53 shizna wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:48 Black[CAT] wrote:
The bully deserved to be killed. People like these are just waste of space.


so if your son/daughter was bullying some kid at school, you'd be totally fine if the kid turned around and stabbed your son/daughter in the neck?

the kid consciously KILLED the bully with the intention of killing him. of course it occurred to the kid that he could scare the bully or injure the bully with the weapon, but no he kept the weapon concealed and then stabbed to kill.... like a cold-blooded psycho.


I would be mad if my kid bullied someone. Besides, it was self defense. Being bullied for a year. That is really painful for that kid.

And honestly, if some d-bag just bullied people for years and no contribution to society, would you deem him worthy to live? Of course we should not judge who should live or die. That bully will prolly turn into some useless criminal in the end or just trash of society.


i haven't seen any evidence that shows that 100% of bullies have no contribution to society?

i can empathize with people who have been bullied, i was bullied (being threatened, punched, kicked etc) by a few during secondary school years. from the same people who were my good friends in early school. but i would never wish harm upon them, even in self defense..

i have this thing called 'guilt', which makes me different from the bully. but i guess the 'victim' in the news story didn't have that.

Turn the other cheek only goes so far. Not everyone is such a saint.The kid that was bullied was just an imperfect human being. Thankfully here in the US there are laws that allow a weak person being beaten and tormented to defend themselves when pushed to the brink. It's sad that the kid died, but it was a necessary evil.
Endeavor to persevere.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 10 2012 14:27 GMT
#531
On January 10 2012 23:16 Jibba wrote:
Nuno's parents think he was a saint. He was the popular kid and complete douche bag.

Also not mentioned in the OP is that Saavedra is a special ed student.


That's a big something to miss... Should really be added in.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
FantaFanta
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany225 Posts
January 10 2012 14:29 GMT
#532
On January 10 2012 15:10 Detwiler wrote:
I dont know if I buy this. I got in fight in school and i never killed anyone. I dont think he should just get off free. Ok i get it he was bullied. That sucks but he KILLED the other kid. You could go even as far as to call it premeditated murder. The kid had a ton of options to choose from. What he choose was to get a knife and kill the guy.

he probably only saw the choice between killing himself and killing the threath. He manned up. I respect him for that decision.
Miss_Cleo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States406 Posts
January 10 2012 14:30 GMT
#533
On January 10 2012 23:21 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:02 Black[CAT] wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:53 shizna wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:48 Black[CAT] wrote:
The bully deserved to be killed. People like these are just waste of space.


so if your son/daughter was bullying some kid at school, you'd be totally fine if the kid turned around and stabbed your son/daughter in the neck?

the kid consciously KILLED the bully with the intention of killing him. of course it occurred to the kid that he could scare the bully or injure the bully with the weapon, but no he kept the weapon concealed and then stabbed to kill.... like a cold-blooded psycho.


I would be mad if my kid bullied someone. Besides, it was self defense. Being bullied for a year. That is really painful for that kid.

And honestly, if some d-bag just bullied people for years and no contribution to society, would you deem him worthy to live? Of course we should not judge who should live or die. That bully will prolly turn into some useless criminal in the end or just trash of society.


i haven't seen any evidence that shows that 100% of bullies have no contribution to society?

i can empathize with people who have been bullied, i was bullied (being threatened, punched, kicked etc) by a few during secondary school years. from the same people who were my good friends in early school. but i would never wish harm upon them, even in self defense..

i have this thing called 'guilt', which makes me different from the bully. but i guess the 'victim' in the news story didn't have that.



"Guilt" won't dissuade you from murder, because it usually comes after murder, in both contexts.
You mean you wouldn't kill him because of your conscious. Maybe his conscious told him to defend his life with the knife.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:36:34
January 10 2012 14:31 GMT
#534
On January 10 2012 23:24 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:19 Miss_Cleo wrote:
On January 10 2012 23:10 paralleluniverse wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:55 Miss_Cleo wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:48 Black[CAT] wrote:
The bully deserved to be killed. People like these are just waste of space.


Nobody deserves to be killed for bullying someone. Jose had other options to diffuse the situation, but he decided the best course of action was to stab someone to death.

Nobody deserves to be bullied each day, then surrounded by 10 punks who then beat the shit out of you.


I agree with you there. But my point still stands.

Self-defense. The kid got bashed, he defended himself, the bully got killed. There is nothing wrong here.

The kid was legally allowed to defend himself, and the courts agreed.

Could the situation have ended more ideally without someone being killed? Maybe, or maybe he would get beat up more. But regardless of whether there was a better ending, there is, again, nothing wrong here.


There is almost 99% of the time a better solution than meeting violence with violence.

He just killed someone...I'm not defending the bullies but seriously he took another persons life. Is the law so just and perfect that we understand that this person deserves to die. His life cut down when he wasn't even 20 years old.

Although a bit more extreme i would also propose that if the Columbine High School shooting victims were ONLY the bullies would we still be ok with it? (if it was in florida)
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Volkspanzer
Profile Joined May 2010
United States83 Posts
January 10 2012 14:32 GMT
#535
I think we're looking at this from a completely wrong perspective. Why look at what choices the victim of a crime in progress had, and look at the options an individual has before threatening the life of an innocent victim. Oh, wait... I think I got this: DON'T THREATEN THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

If anything, the bully had far more room and options, and decided not to take the smart path. He could have backed off at ANY time he chose.

It's one thing to hold a criminal in chains and basically have him neutralized after incarceration, but if a threat is neutralized in the process of a crime? That's a different story.

Praise be the day that a criminal realizes that retribution can come from more than a badge. The biggest reason that people actually go through with harming others is that they think they can get away with it.
Miss_Cleo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:34:40
January 10 2012 14:33 GMT
#536
On January 10 2012 23:24 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:19 Miss_Cleo wrote:
On January 10 2012 23:10 paralleluniverse wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:55 Miss_Cleo wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:48 Black[CAT] wrote:
The bully deserved to be killed. People like these are just waste of space.


Nobody deserves to be killed for bullying someone. Jose had other options to diffuse the situation, but he decided the best course of action was to stab someone to death.

Nobody deserves to be bullied each day, then surrounded by 10 punks who then beat the shit out of you.


I agree with you there. But my point still stands.

Self-defense. The kid got bashed, he defended himself, the bully got killed. There is nothing wrong here.

The kid was legally allowed to defend himself, and the courts agreed.

Could the situation have ended more ideally without someone being killed? Maybe, or maybe he would get beat up more. But regardless of whether there was a better ending, there is, again, nothing wrong here.


I have stated before that legally, this kid did nothing wrong, and I agree with the ruling.
But you see nothing wrong with the fact that a fourteen year old kid had to stab someone as a last resort?
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:36:01
January 10 2012 14:35 GMT
#537
On January 10 2012 23:26 Shafanhow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:21 shizna wrote:
On January 10 2012 23:02 Black[CAT] wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:53 shizna wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:48 Black[CAT] wrote:
The bully deserved to be killed. People like these are just waste of space.


so if your son/daughter was bullying some kid at school, you'd be totally fine if the kid turned around and stabbed your son/daughter in the neck?

the kid consciously KILLED the bully with the intention of killing him. of course it occurred to the kid that he could scare the bully or injure the bully with the weapon, but no he kept the weapon concealed and then stabbed to kill.... like a cold-blooded psycho.


I would be mad if my kid bullied someone. Besides, it was self defense. Being bullied for a year. That is really painful for that kid.

And honestly, if some d-bag just bullied people for years and no contribution to society, would you deem him worthy to live? Of course we should not judge who should live or die. That bully will prolly turn into some useless criminal in the end or just trash of society.


i haven't seen any evidence that shows that 100% of bullies have no contribution to society?

i can empathize with people who have been bullied, i was bullied (being threatened, punched, kicked etc) by a few during secondary school years. from the same people who were my good friends in early school. but i would never wish harm upon them, even in self defense..

i have this thing called 'guilt', which makes me different from the bully. but i guess the 'victim' in the news story didn't have that.

Turn the other cheek only goes so far. Not everyone is such a saint.The kid that was bullied was just an imperfect human being. Thankfully here in the US there are laws that allow a weak person being beaten and tormented to defend themselves when pushed to the brink. It's sad that the kid died, but it was a necessary evil.


a necessary evil for 'the greater good' ?

well other than being a famous quote by various fictitious supervillains, it doesn't mean much to me.

there have always been bullies, there will always be bullies. some kids don't mix well with other kids. it's not their fault that they're forced by law to mix with other kids.

at the end of the day, bullies don't deserve any sympathy. but if they get murdered, they're not a bully anymore... they're just a dead kid like any other dead kid.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:38:17
January 10 2012 14:37 GMT
#538
On January 10 2012 23:33 Miss_Cleo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:24 paralleluniverse wrote:
On January 10 2012 23:19 Miss_Cleo wrote:
On January 10 2012 23:10 paralleluniverse wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:55 Miss_Cleo wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:48 Black[CAT] wrote:
The bully deserved to be killed. People like these are just waste of space.


Nobody deserves to be killed for bullying someone. Jose had other options to diffuse the situation, but he decided the best course of action was to stab someone to death.

Nobody deserves to be bullied each day, then surrounded by 10 punks who then beat the shit out of you.


I agree with you there. But my point still stands.

Self-defense. The kid got bashed, he defended himself, the bully got killed. There is nothing wrong here.

The kid was legally allowed to defend himself, and the courts agreed.

Could the situation have ended more ideally without someone being killed? Maybe, or maybe he would get beat up more. But regardless of whether there was a better ending, there is, again, nothing wrong here.


I have stated before that legally, this kid did nothing wrong, and I agree with the ruling.
But you see nothing wrong with the fact that a fourteen year old kid had to stab someone as a last resort?

I would agree that perhaps more could have been done to prevent bullying in the first place. Or to prevent the situation from escalating to this unfortunate point. However, bullying seems to be one of those problems which no one has figured out how to fix.
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
January 10 2012 14:37 GMT
#539
Clearly an example of the law protecting the perpetrator of a murder, at least in my opinion. Knives don't belong on students, and this simply sets a precedent which justifies the carrying of knives at school for the purpose of self-defence. Does this mean teachers will be needing guns to keep order?
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GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
January 10 2012 14:39 GMT
#540
The article didn't go into any details about the attack. Bullying is such a frustrating topic. I feel for the victim but in this case I have to step back and ask why did he have a knife on him? Was the stabbing was premeditated? This suggests there was the possibility for some other form of action and that the youngster made a conscious choice. However, if your alone, isolated, and frustrated, I can see it being very difficult to make the decision to speak with someone about it. It's a fine line between self defence and intent to do harm in return. On one hand, It may set a bad example to other victims (how to go about resolve these situations) but on the other hand, it may make bullies think twice about what they are doing...
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