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iG.Forever
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)148 Posts
January 10 2012 05:58 GMT
#1
A Florida teen who stabbed his classmate to death last year will not face murder charges, a judge ruled on Wednesday.

Collier County Judge Lauren Brodie agreed that 15-year-old Jorge Saavedra acted in self-defense when he knifed Dylan Nuno, 16, after a fight at a bus stop, WINK-TV reported.

"(He) had more than enough reason to believe he was in danger of death or great bodily harm," she wrote in her decision.

Saavedra, who was 14 at the time of the killing, was protected under Florida's Stand Your Ground law, which stipulates that people can defend themselves if they feel threatened by any means necessary, NBC 2 reported.

Brodie heard from multiple witnesses who testified that Nuno initiated the fight and had been harassing Saavedra for more than a year.

"The facts were consistent. There was a group of boys harassing Mr. Saavedra, repeatedly threatening Mr. Saavedra, on the day this incident happened,” Saavedra's attorney Donald Day said. “Not one boy, but a group of boys had threatened physical violence."

In his testimony at the trial, Saavedra testified that Nuno told him, "Today's the day" — meaning they were going to fight — when he got on the bus. Nuno then followed him off the bus and a group of students circled the two, egging them on, according to reports.

Saavedra said he told Nuno he didn't want to fight, but Nuno hit him in the back of the head and continued to punch him.

Saavedra's team also had anti-bullying experts testify.

"There were no winners today, and the Saavedra family is devastated over the tragedy. The family's hope is that the schools take a more active role in stopping the escalating bullying violence that is occurring across the country," Saavedra's family said in a statement.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-teen-jorge-saavedra-won-t-charged-murder-bus-stop-stabbing-article-1.1001277#ixzz1j04WQeLu

interesting story
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 10 2012 06:00 GMT
#2
well, it was self-defense. The question is why did he carry a knife with him to school?
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 10 2012 06:01 GMT
#3
On January 10 2012 15:00 amazingxkcd wrote:
well, it was self-defense. The question is why did he carry a knife with him to school?


Sounds like it was an escalating incident, and he had reason to believe he'd be in danger "soon."
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 10 2012 06:01 GMT
#4
On January 10 2012 15:00 amazingxkcd wrote:
well, it was self-defense. The question is why did he carry a knife with him to school?


well, for self-defense. the bully announced that he was going to beat him up beforehand.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4343 Posts
January 10 2012 06:02 GMT
#5
Obviously he feared the bullies.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
BillSmauz
Profile Joined June 2010
United States51 Posts
January 10 2012 06:02 GMT
#6
On January 10 2012 15:00 amazingxkcd wrote:
well, it was self-defense. The question is why did he carry a knife with him to school?


As the article stated, he'd been bullied for quite a while from this kid so I am assuming he brought it with him just in case.
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Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
January 10 2012 06:03 GMT
#7
On January 10 2012 15:00 amazingxkcd wrote:
well, it was self-defense. The question is why did he carry a knife with him to school?


protection is what i would guess, i dont know the area but there are parts of California where students take knifes with them for protection and people just kind of shrug and go ya that sounds about right. Sad but true

on topic : Schools need to be more active about stopping bullying, if the kid is picking on him for over a year this seems like something that can happen. I agree with the judge that he did not murder him but acted in self defense
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
January 10 2012 06:03 GMT
#8
On January 10 2012 15:00 amazingxkcd wrote:
well, it was self-defense. The question is why did he carry a knife with him to school?


Sounds to me like he felt threatened, obviously it really sucks that someone had to die over this, or that he felt he needed to take that knife with him.

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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 06:09:36
January 10 2012 06:06 GMT
#9
Well, the end result is better than getting beat up for who knows how much longer. Definitely self-defense.

But I'm kind of disappointed in the authorities; the situation was allowed to escalate to this extent, and they apparently had no knowledge of its seriousness for a year. They probably weren't even aware that the kid was being beat up like this.

If I were the bullied kid's family, I'd be pushing for civil charges against the school in question.
FJ
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom321 Posts
January 10 2012 06:06 GMT
#10
He really drove the point home about anti-bullying. He was only acting self defense so it's ok. It was a sharp conclusion to his bullying. I don't think he will get bullied again.
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Indez
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia37 Posts
January 10 2012 06:06 GMT
#11
street justice woohoo! shiv the prick lol
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
January 10 2012 06:07 GMT
#12
he is only a kid, but still murder is murder
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HardMacro
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada361 Posts
January 10 2012 06:07 GMT
#13
Ahh, rarely is the world this fair.

(Brutal) Justice prevails, here's to hoping all bully victims hear about this story and fax copies to their bullies.
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JohnnyBanana
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada493 Posts
January 10 2012 06:09 GMT
#14
On January 10 2012 15:07 firehand101 wrote:
he is only a kid, but still murder is murder

I don't think you know what murder means.

Also, look up manslaughter.
InfernoStarcraft
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia136 Posts
January 10 2012 06:09 GMT
#15
On January 10 2012 15:06 Indez wrote:
street justice woohoo! shiv the prick lol


/agree. if your a bully you deserve it imo.
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Regime
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia185 Posts
January 10 2012 06:09 GMT
#16
what bullshit it doesnt matter if u think ur in danger. call the police... u cant carry a knife thats intent theres no way around it
Detwiler
Profile Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 06:13:48
January 10 2012 06:10 GMT
#17
I dont know if I buy this. I got in fight in school and i never killed anyone. I dont think he should just get off free. Ok i get it he was bullied. That sucks but he KILLED the other kid. You could go even as far as to call it premeditated murder. The kid had a ton of options to choose from. What he choose was to get a knife and kill the guy.
KryptoStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
England377 Posts
January 10 2012 06:10 GMT
#18
Bullying *sigh*. I can't even begin to try to explain how much I hate bullying, but more specifically to this case, some may see it as justice, i'm kind of on the line, yes the bully deserved something, but I would rather see him educated on the seriousness of bullying and the effects it can have on people rather than being murdered.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 10 2012 06:11 GMT
#19
On January 10 2012 15:07 firehand101 wrote:
he is only a kid, but still murder is murder


Not when it's self-defense.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 06:13:43
January 10 2012 06:11 GMT
#20
On January 10 2012 15:06 FJ wrote:
He really drove the point home about anti-bullying. He was only acting self defense so it's ok. It was a sharp conclusion to his bullying. I don't think he will get bullied again.

Yea now he won't be on edge about being bullied. This is a case in point of why authorities should do a better job in preventing these kinds of incidents
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