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A Florida teen who stabbed his classmate to death last year will not face murder charges, a judge ruled on Wednesday.
Collier County Judge Lauren Brodie agreed that 15-year-old Jorge Saavedra acted in self-defense when he knifed Dylan Nuno, 16, after a fight at a bus stop, WINK-TV reported.
"(He) had more than enough reason to believe he was in danger of death or great bodily harm," she wrote in her decision.
Saavedra, who was 14 at the time of the killing, was protected under Florida's Stand Your Ground law, which stipulates that people can defend themselves if they feel threatened by any means necessary, NBC 2 reported.
Brodie heard from multiple witnesses who testified that Nuno initiated the fight and had been harassing Saavedra for more than a year.
"The facts were consistent. There was a group of boys harassing Mr. Saavedra, repeatedly threatening Mr. Saavedra, on the day this incident happened,” Saavedra's attorney Donald Day said. “Not one boy, but a group of boys had threatened physical violence."
In his testimony at the trial, Saavedra testified that Nuno told him, "Today's the day" — meaning they were going to fight — when he got on the bus. Nuno then followed him off the bus and a group of students circled the two, egging them on, according to reports.
Saavedra said he told Nuno he didn't want to fight, but Nuno hit him in the back of the head and continued to punch him.
Saavedra's team also had anti-bullying experts testify.
"There were no winners today, and the Saavedra family is devastated over the tragedy. The family's hope is that the schools take a more active role in stopping the escalating bullying violence that is occurring across the country," Saavedra's family said in a statement.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-teen-jorge-saavedra-won-t-charged-murder-bus-stop-stabbing-article-1.1001277#ixzz1j04WQeLu
interesting story 
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well, it was self-defense. The question is why did he carry a knife with him to school?
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On January 10 2012 15:00 amazingxkcd wrote:
well, it was self-defense. The question is why did he carry a knife with him to school?
Sounds like it was an escalating incident, and he had reason to believe he'd be in danger "soon."
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On January 10 2012 15:00 amazingxkcd wrote:
well, it was self-defense. The question is why did he carry a knife with him to school?
well, for self-defense. the bully announced that he was going to beat him up beforehand.
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Obviously he feared the bullies.
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On January 10 2012 15:00 amazingxkcd wrote:
well, it was self-defense. The question is why did he carry a knife with him to school?
As the article stated, he'd been bullied for quite a while from this kid so I am assuming he brought it with him just in case.
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On January 10 2012 15:00 amazingxkcd wrote:
well, it was self-defense. The question is why did he carry a knife with him to school?
protection is what i would guess, i dont know the area but there are parts of California where students take knifes with them for protection and people just kind of shrug and go ya that sounds about right. Sad but true
on topic : Schools need to be more active about stopping bullying, if the kid is picking on him for over a year this seems like something that can happen. I agree with the judge that he did not murder him but acted in self defense
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On January 10 2012 15:00 amazingxkcd wrote:
well, it was self-defense. The question is why did he carry a knife with him to school?
Sounds to me like he felt threatened, obviously it really sucks that someone had to die over this, or that he felt he needed to take that knife with him.
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Well, the end result is better than getting beat up for who knows how much longer. Definitely self-defense.
But I'm kind of disappointed in the authorities; the situation was allowed to escalate to this extent, and they apparently had no knowledge of its seriousness for a year. They probably weren't even aware that the kid was being beat up like this.
If I were the bullied kid's family, I'd be pushing for civil charges against the school in question.
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He really drove the point home about anti-bullying. He was only acting self defense so it's ok. It was a sharp conclusion to his bullying. I don't think he will get bullied again.
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street justice woohoo! shiv the prick lol
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he is only a kid, but still murder is murder
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Ahh, rarely is the world this fair.
(Brutal) Justice prevails, here's to hoping all bully victims hear about this story and fax copies to their bullies.
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On January 10 2012 15:07 firehand101 wrote:
he is only a kid, but still murder is murder
I don't think you know what murder means.
Also, look up manslaughter.
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On January 10 2012 15:06 Indez wrote:
street justice woohoo! shiv the prick lol
/agree. if your a bully you deserve it imo.
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what bullshit it doesnt matter if u think ur in danger. call the police... u cant carry a knife thats intent theres no way around it
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I dont know if I buy this. I got in fight in school and i never killed anyone. I dont think he should just get off free. Ok i get it he was bullied. That sucks but he KILLED the other kid. You could go even as far as to call it premeditated murder. The kid had a ton of options to choose from. What he choose was to get a knife and kill the guy.
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Bullying *sigh*. I can't even begin to try to explain how much I hate bullying, but more specifically to this case, some may see it as justice, i'm kind of on the line, yes the bully deserved something, but I would rather see him educated on the seriousness of bullying and the effects it can have on people rather than being murdered.
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On January 10 2012 15:07 firehand101 wrote:
he is only a kid, but still murder is murder
Not when it's self-defense.
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On January 10 2012 15:06 FJ wrote:
He really drove the point home about anti-bullying. He was only acting self defense so it's ok. It was a sharp conclusion to his bullying. I don't think he will get bullied again.
Yea now he won't be on edge about being bullied. This is a case in point of why authorities should do a better job in preventing these kinds of incidents
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