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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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Asunanas
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InoyouS2
1005 Posts
Anyway, Sen finally gets a shot after so long. | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:12 Talic_Zealot wrote: It seems to come down to every person's idea of respect and how important it is. The punishment may be harsh, but I am disgusted by how many people don't seem to have 'respect' as a part of their ideology. Like this has anything to do with respect. This has everything to do with the retarded tournament format forcing player to play unneeded games. Most people would have done the same thing or some terrible allin playing with 1 hand. I don't see the difference. | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
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Packawana
United States1081 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:13 Klogbert wrote: Holy crap didn't even think about this...wow does this makes GOM look like hypocrites. I'm officially done with GSL...still. But were those games actually played out? This is the main thing, this wasn't a form of BM that was meant to insult the opponent in the way dropping mules is. This is BM in the way that insults the tournament and insults the viewers. If you play for any team or any sport, you are expected to give your all no matter what your standing is, no matter how far down or far up you are. When it becomes blatantly obvious that you're not playing to win (and reaffirm that post-match), then you are not living to the professionalism that is supposed to be integral in any competition. | ||
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ChoboKal
United States74 Posts
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MildSeven
Canada311 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:05 nugget-92 wrote: If GOM is going to host the Global Starcraft League and actually work at inviting foreign players to travel to their country to participate it is abhorrent for GOM to completely ignore the fact that these players will come from different cultures. Any reasonable organisation that plans to host a Global event has to accept that people from countries outside their own will have different ideals and will not act in a manner that will conform to you strict cultural sensibilities. Complexity and Quantic have now suffered significant financial damages because of this decision. Furthermore, Naniwa has invested significant time and effort into participating in this league and is now suspended. GOM has even stated that Naniwa is a money-hungry player. This suggests that GOM probably did not consult Naniwa before they made their decision. Why? Because Naniwa has maintained and shown that, whilst he is introverted and has trouble keeping his emotions in check, his aspirations lie with being the best. The accusation is not true on Naniwa, but it doesn't matter, it's to teach him a lesson on life really. When a country hosts the Olympic, even if it is a global event, the host country expects the tourists and participants from other countries to foremost respect their culture, you don't go to Athens Olympics to piss on the greek statue (extreme example). No one asked Naniwa to honour kill or disrespect women like Islamic fundamentalists, all is asked from Naniwa and all other Esports player is some reverence for the prestige of the game that Korean culture highly values. This is the right punishment, it is a mild punishment for mild offense. Next time Naniwa will smarten up, enough with his introverted rebel " i can do whatever i want" attitude, that's just not how society works. | ||
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ander
Canada403 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:08 Deadeight wrote: Except throughout the thread people from all cultures (including yours) have supported GOM's decision. It's not a korean vs the world thing. Well yeah, which is fine. Most people are supporting GOM's decision with respect to the odd position they were placed in, and not the decision itself. He's right; if it wasn't in Korea, there would be no problem whatsoever. I know when i watched it, i thought it was hilarious, and that it felt pretty light hearted, especially after nani and nesteas cheeky interaction at the press conference interviews. The reason it's a problem is PURELY because of a clash of cultures; obviously Naniwa would not have done it if he'd know that he was punishable by some vague and obscure rule buried deep within the regulations. This is the same stupid thing, where in that AllStar game, HuK beat nestea, and then the korean community complained that huk was actually trying too hard. All of the GSL rules are tailored to be as vague as possible so there is room for them to interpret them as they will. There was no rule about in-game play; it's not like naniwa came out and said "fuck you" to his face. If you ban naniwa, you might as well ban manner mules, people pulling scv's with their 1/1/1, and MC's throat slash. To let those stand while you ban Nani is pure hypocrisy. | ||
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Mefano
Sweden190 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:14 kota wrote: For starcraft 2 to grow as an eSport, a certain amount of professionalism is needed, and we can't have people like Naniwa, no matter how good of a player he is, fooling around and throwing away games that people paid for. It absolutely does not matter that the match couldn't change the outcome of his standings in the cup. It doesn't only make him look bad and immature, but it also makes the GSL and Blizzard look bad since they've got their name on it No, no, no  Revoking a seed will hurt the scene a lot more. | ||
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trucane
United States553 Posts
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TheExile19
513 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:14 Mefano wrote: I'll never again buy a GSL-ticket untill they make a formal apolpgy about this. yeah don't hold your breath on that one, they purposefully strung him up so no one fucks with them on this grand and obvious a scale again. | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:12 sickra wrote: Because deep down inside, you wish you were Swedish? The fuck? Stop beng such a tool, and just admit that there are a lot of non Swedish people that are defending him, and a lot of Swedish people that aren't. | ||
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
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Mojar
Australia185 Posts
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rontol
71 Posts
sry not surprising for me xd | ||
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4of8
Germany256 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:42 Niyanyo wrote: Wow... I was about to purchase a year pass with the new model, but this is just wrong. It was as much or more fault of the tournament as it was for Naniwa. If this goes thru I am not purchasing de pass as protest. Me 2 | ||
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parkin
1086 Posts
HuK mothership rushes and looses on purpose but is treated like a superhero. Naniwa makes a probe rush and looses on purpose but gets revoked by biased judges. Its pathetic and i hope more people boycott GSL. | ||
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:15 klaxen wrote: Everyone is done with GSL. I guess you don't like watching the best players. I don't like watching when a player earns himself a spot as one of the best players, then has it removed because he decided not to try in a meaningless match that shouldn't have been broadcasted in the first place given GOM's broadcast history with the UpNDown matches. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:16 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: So we are going to let koreans rule the rest of the world now? What about "korean tournament" do you connect to "the world"? Make sense. | ||
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zuperketla
Norway212 Posts
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