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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.

Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned!
- Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM
- Comparing people to Hitler
- Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum.
Stark1
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 21:45:54
December 14 2011 09:38 GMT
#1
@Ethan_Ahn Young-Hun. Ahn
To clarify, NaNiwa was one of those who were considered to earn Code S seeds, but it was IdrA and Sen who is coming for #GSL Jan.


Mr.Chae quote from Korean Stream (thanks to NHY for this).

프로게이머라는 직업이 사실은 이겨서 상금을 타가서 그걸로 업을 삼는다고 프로게이머라고 생각하지 않아요 프로게이머라는 직업은 승부를 가리는 것들을 시청자분들에게 보여주고 그것들을 시청자 분들이 열광하고 그것을 통해서 승부를 가리는 것을 직업으로 삼는 선수들을 프로게이머라고 저희가 생각을하고 있기 때문에 저희가 시드를 줬던것은 퀀틱 게이밍의 프로토스 프로게이머 나니와 선수였지 스웨덴에서 게임을 잘하는 청년 요한 루세시는 아니였습니다.


"We don't believe that winning games and getting prizes make you a pro-gamer. We think that pro-gaming as a vocation should be about gamers competing for the victory, for the audience so they would get excited, and in all that, players job is to compete for the victory through that. We gave the seed to Quantic Gaming's protoss pro-gamer NaNiwa, not the Swedish youth Johan Lucchesi who plays the game well."

Please see below.

1) Due to LXP agreement, Naniwa earned a Code S Seed.
2) 2012 had a format change, where GOM had two "code s seed" spots that they were going to use as invites instead of a direct MLG seed like the 2011 season. Due to this format change, Naniwa was supposed to be one of these code s seed invites instead of getting that direct MLG seed
3) Since they were spots they were going to use as invites, they saw yesterday's games and revoked that invitation using the excuse that it's an invitation.


Edit: Apparently it was just announced on the Korean stream, so it's now official; Naniwa is out.
Edit2: To clarify, it seems GOM has simply revoked Naniwa's Code S seed for the upcoming season, not banned him outright.
Edit3: Here's the rule being used as justification:
Warning or disqualification
- 경기중에 과격한 행동으로 상대 게이머나 관중들에게 위협을 가할 때
- During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours
MasterBlasterCaster
Profile Joined October 2011
United States568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 15:07:31
December 14 2011 09:39 GMT
#2
Yeah it's pretty disgusting..
Keeler
Profile Joined November 2010
United States313 Posts
December 14 2011 09:39 GMT
#3
pretty sure its just that he lost his seed for this next season.
imMUTAble787
Profile Joined November 2011
United States680 Posts
December 14 2011 09:40 GMT
#4
I love Mr. Chae.

Good job for having standards.
*eternalenvy fanboy*
Alokiya
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States648 Posts
December 14 2011 09:40 GMT
#5
What a fucking joke.
C'mon my guppies, swim up my stream! - Day[9]
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
December 14 2011 09:40 GMT
#6
life goes on.
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Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
December 14 2011 09:40 GMT
#7
I can't say I'm glad for this, but you could say Naniwa had this coming. People pay to watch pro-gamers play to their best and fullest potential, not for some bronze level worker rush cheese.
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
dafunk
Profile Joined January 2009
France521 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:42:02
December 14 2011 09:40 GMT
#8
Deserved.

And it will prevent anyone from doing it in the future.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#9
I wonder what Naniwa will do in response to this, will he stay and practice till February or when GSL #2 is and then try the Code A Qualifiers?
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
December 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#10
Time to get a $100 refund on my premium ticket.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Onox
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1072 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:41:41
December 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#11
Naniwa had it coming imo.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
December 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#12
If true= GSL is a joke tournament, not MLG.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
December 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#13
Pretty much that it is not acceptable in Korea, where respect is extremely important.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
CP-Jun
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia278 Posts
December 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#14
Official : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=294711
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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
December 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#15
as naniwa hasn't violated an official rule i'm questioning this decision to say the least, couldn't naniwa even take legal action against this?
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
December 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#16
Completely stupid punishment from GOM. Naniwa didn't do anything wrong according to the rules, and the punishment is purely based on the drama that was created. Really unprofessional in my opinion.
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
Pikarya
Profile Joined December 2011
United States10 Posts
December 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#17
On December 14 2011 18:41 eYeball wrote:
I wonder what Naniwa will do in response to this, will he stay and practice till February or when GSL #2 is and then try the Code A Qualifiers?


learn new cheese strats

User was warned for this post
AnTiX
Profile Joined April 2010
France29 Posts
December 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#18
No more GSL for me, I guess.
Rather than love, than money, than faith, than fame, than fairness... give me truth.
Presidenten
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden777 Posts
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#19
and i seriously had plans on paying for gsl this year. thanks for making my decision a lot easier!
Niyanyo
Profile Joined April 2011
Mexico71 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 21:04:39
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#20
Wow... I was about to purchase a year pass with the new model, but this is just wrong. It was as much or more fault of the tournament as it was of Naniwa. If this goes thru I am not purchasing the pass as protest.
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