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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.
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On December 15 2011 05:04 ranshaked wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 05:01 Velr wrote:On December 15 2011 04:59 ranshaked wrote:On December 15 2011 04:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 15 2011 04:54 ranshaked wrote:On December 15 2011 04:50 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 15 2011 04:46 ranshaked wrote:
How is this situation any different than a professional sports team sitting their best players before the playoffs? Or when a game is blown out and the left fielder comes in to pitch...
It was a useless game, and all sports have them. Read the thread. It's completely different because even if you use 3rd string players in a pointless game, you're still playing the fucking game and trying to win. Naniwa was essentially not playing the game at all, or, if you want to be 100% technical and say that he was physically playing the game, he threw it, which is comparable to match-fixing. And you could say last year when the patriots i believe didn't start their A team against a team that was vowing for a playoff spot. If the patriots had played their best team, then the other team would have lost and never gotten into the playoffs. Or in baseball when the #1 team plays a playoff contender, but chooses to rest their players because they've clinched the seed...meanwhile they throw the game with their 3rd string players and let the opposing team have an easy win. Naniwa did this in ONE game out of how many? This happens all the time in sports.
THOSE TEAMS STILL PLAYED THE FUCKING GAME THAT THEY WERE SCHEDULED TO PLAY. THEY DIDN'T JUST WALK OFF THE FIELD.Fuck people, read the thread. Why are you getting so pissed off? naniwa played the game. The game started, the game finished...Someone won, and someone lost...It's all the same. Especially since him losing this game didn't affect anything what so ever. I wouldn't have even played the game. What's the point? Clearly there was a flaw in the system. Blame the system, not the player. A professional Tennis player enters the court: He only does double faults when he has service by hitting the ball into funny directions. He only does handstands when he should be returning. Did he play the game? Theoretically yes. Would he get punished? He probably would never ever again set a foot on a professional tennis court. The thing is, the game wouldn't; have ever happened. At this point it's a show match...It means nothing. To me, you can do whatever you want if it means nothing. It's a pickup game.
I like the tennis analogy the most because it is an 1v1 sport, like SC2. Team sports is different, because there are substitutions.
You are right, a player can do anything he wants. But if his action is disrespectful to the organizers, fans, fellow players, he will lose their respect for him. He will not be invited in future tournament.
A meaningless game did happen in tennis, and in other sports when the schedule is set. Depending on the tournament rule, but most of the time a match being played is independent of the results of previous matches. A match is scheduled and will be played no matter what.
For real example in tennis. This year at the ATP World Tour Finals in London. Group Stage, round rubin, Mardy Fish vs Roger Federer. The match was meaningless to the order of the ranking in the group, but the match was still played. Fish was guaranteed to be out, Federer was guaranteed to win the group. Fish came out and played hard, took the match to 3 sets. He earned my respect. For Naniwa, No.
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On December 15 2011 06:20 dacimvrl wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:15 JinDesu wrote:On December 15 2011 06:06 dacimvrl wrote:
What about the time on IGN Team Arena Challenge when Dignitas forfeited after going 0-4 against SlayerS. Did anyone bitch at Dignitas? Should IGN/IPL ban Dignitas? LoL.
Dignitas actually had more of a chance than Naniwa did..
Such haters/hypocrites....
Let's all trash Dignitas!! No, but Naniwa did it, we have to hate him, Dignitas is okay.
Ppl should just man up and stop resorting to this you hurt my feelings; therefore, i will bend the rules to hurt you bs. It's elementary at best. A warning would have sufficed.
So much LuLz.. Er actually, there were quite a lotta people calling for Dignitas to answer for what they did. This was true of Millenium too. And people were calling for both teams to not be invited back for future games (IPL invited one of them back anyways I think). Why wasn't there a bigger outcry? Have you seen those live report threads? There aren't that many people in them anyways. That only proves that IGN/IPL guys are mature and more fair, cuz they didn't resort to the you hurt my feelings; therefore, i will bend the rules to hurt you bs.
It doesn't prove that at all. -_-
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On December 15 2011 06:16 Utinni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:08 SC2NeCro wrote:
Honestly, if people are going to argue that NaNiWa threw the game and made it not entertaining for the viewers, what about the NaNiWa vs. Leenock finals? All he did was a boring roach rush, that was NOT ENTERTAINING, especially compared to an epic long series, and yet people seem to have no problem at all with that one. Hypocritical to say the least. if you know hes gonna ffe, might as well exploit the weakness of not using another build order...
Also its a huge fucking difference between doing the same build every game and a moving your probes and taking your hands off your mouse and keyboard......... Sure both are not entertaining but atleast they played the fucking game, you know they did that think they are being paid to do?
Also I don't think it has been said quite enough in this thread. HE THREW THE GAME, he literally and blatantly lost on purpose! That is against the rules in every god damn tournament in existence and most will ban you for life for doing it! Especially in Korea with match fixing scandals etc. its a fucking serious rule, Though obviously Naniwa wasn't match fixing, they have to enforce this rule harshly.... I've said it before and I'll say it again, He is LUCKY to not be banned for life.
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On December 15 2011 06:09 Tyrant0 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:06 baoluvboa wrote:On December 15 2011 06:04 Tyrant0 wrote:On December 15 2011 06:04 baoluvboa wrote:On December 15 2011 06:02 Tyrant0 wrote:On December 15 2011 05:58 Scrandom wrote:On December 15 2011 05:56 kafkaesque wrote:On December 15 2011 05:54 Fission wrote:On December 15 2011 05:53 ampson wrote:
Wow, what an overreaction. The only person he could have possibly offended was nestea. I'm offended because I paid to see games, and what I got was a no-hands probe-rush. Jesus Christ... How petty can you get? You are just blindly defending Naniwa, you said give him a break he had a bad day, Nestea went 0-4 and he came to play his final game, I think it was even on his birthday. It's not justified at all what Naniwa did, saying he had a bad day or that he was tired makes no sense, he had to play 4 games like everyone else and he wasn't the only one who had a bad day. People come to watch games not to see this stuff You have no idea if Nestea intended to throw the game with a roach rush. Nestea prepared for the match during his birthday and I'm pretty sure he didn't intend to go 0-3 before facing Naniwa. Everyone makes Nestea out to be a saint when he admitted to half-assing his game vs HuK for the sake of entertainment. "for the sake of entertainment" thats the difference, you basically made my point for me. Then embrace our pro players as wrestlers who don't actually play but stage matches to be as entertaining and fake as possible. why would I embrace naniwa when what he did in that particular case was disrespectful? He had a professional obligation to carry out and he failed to deliver due to the momentary weakness of his character. I hope that he will improve in the future but there is no reason to justify his behavior. Tyler put it best, it was inappropriate, and everyone can agree there were smarter decisions he could have made. In the end, it was a shitty situation for Naniwa to be in, and ultimately to me he proved hes way more real than Nestea. He won't fake a game to rile up fans who wouldn't know the difference. If he plays to give it his all, you can be damned sure hes playing with all of his heart. That, and the punishment is way, way to severe. Korea took it as disrespect and hyped it to be the worst thing in the world. Naniwa never intended to offend anyone.
...says the mind reader. Thank you for sharing this precious info with us.
Oh wait, I'm a mind reader too, and I say he intended to offend everybody watching, plus all the organizers. Who are we gonna trust now?
Quit the bias and accept that Naniwa was a jerk. Maybe he didn't think it was a huge deal, but acted like a jerk nonetheless. And you say he won't fake a game and imply Nestea would? You are messed up man. Nestea would play his heart out not because he has to fake it to please his fans, but because his damn job is progamer and he is responsible.
And it's damn convenient that the format is in discussion after the thing is over. Why didn't Naniwa protest about it before? Why didn't he go "This format is fucked up and I'm not gonna play in it"? Oh wait, it's way easier to agree to the rules, and then cry like a man-child when things don't go his way, that's why.
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On December 15 2011 06:19 polysciguy wrote:
im curious, how is this different than the cocoa issue?
You bring up a great point. While the scenarios are not identical, they both "mailed it in" on games and directly affected the outcome of a match. I feel that GOM TV could have given him a warning or given the more harsh punishment. In the end it was their decision and I agree with it. From his statement, i feel Naniwa has grown of significantly from this event. In the past I was kind of apathetic towards him, but with this maturity that he has shown I look forward to his games in the future.
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"During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours"
MKP held up a sign that said "Dokdo is Korean Territory" That's way more offensive to some people, and just got a slap on the wrist.
That's some GOM hypocrisy right there.
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On December 15 2011 06:23 Saig0n wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:19 polysciguy wrote:
im curious, how is this different than the cocoa issue? You bring up a great point. While the scenarios are not identical, they both "mailed it in" on games and directly affected the outcome of a match. I feel that GOM TV could have given him a warning or given the more harsh punishment. In the end it was their decision and I agree with it. From his statement, i feel Naniwa has grown of significantly from this event. In the past I was kind of apathetic towards him, but with this maturity that he has shown I look forward to his games in the future.
possible, but that would show favoritism to foreigners imo, coca not only lost his spot in code S he was also kicked off his team for his behavior in an event that wasn't even run by GOM.
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On December 15 2011 06:25 ampson wrote:
"During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours"
MKP held up a sign that said "Dokdo is Korean Territory" That's way more offensive to some people, and just got a slap on the wrist.
That's some GOM hypocrisy right there.
They're koreans.
In korea.
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On December 15 2011 06:21 ElephantBaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:15 grobo wrote:On December 15 2011 06:14 LunaSea wrote:
That's one of the reasons Starcraft II needs a "Fifa like" organisation i my opinion.
We had KESPA back in the days, if you sneezed at the wrong time you were executed. Don't exaggerate about kespa, most of their rules are necessary to make league a real professional environment. If Gom has better rules, there won't be any conflict in this case.
Exaggerate? Please point out an adjective or adverb where I "exaggerated" kespa. Yes, Kespa might be a harsh organization but at least they have a system: licensing (being registered as a pro gamer), contracts, rules, etc. All in which GOM does not have. If they have these, please link me to documentation so I can verify. GOM needs more then rules, as stated above.
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On December 15 2011 06:22 IPA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:20 dacimvrl wrote:On December 15 2011 06:15 JinDesu wrote:On December 15 2011 06:06 dacimvrl wrote:
What about the time on IGN Team Arena Challenge when Dignitas forfeited after going 0-4 against SlayerS. Did anyone bitch at Dignitas? Should IGN/IPL ban Dignitas? LoL.
Dignitas actually had more of a chance than Naniwa did..
Such haters/hypocrites....
Let's all trash Dignitas!! No, but Naniwa did it, we have to hate him, Dignitas is okay.
Ppl should just man up and stop resorting to this you hurt my feelings; therefore, i will bend the rules to hurt you bs. It's elementary at best. A warning would have sufficed.
So much LuLz.. Er actually, there were quite a lotta people calling for Dignitas to answer for what they did. This was true of Millenium too. And people were calling for both teams to not be invited back for future games (IPL invited one of them back anyways I think). Why wasn't there a bigger outcry? Have you seen those live report threads? There aren't that many people in them anyways. That only proves that IGN/IPL guys are mature and more fair, cuz they didn't resort to the you hurt my feelings; therefore, i will bend the rules to hurt you bs. It doesn't prove that at all. -_-
How does it not? Gotta love these one line replies LuLz.
It happened with Millenium. IGN/IPL was grown up about it and didn't just outright ban Millenium from the tournament.
It happened with Naniwa. GOM says, you hurt my feelings by disrespecting me, so i hurt you too, you no welcome GSL code S!!
Pretty obvious IGN/IPL are more mature and just.
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On December 15 2011 06:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:21 ElephantBaby wrote:On December 15 2011 06:15 grobo wrote:On December 15 2011 06:14 LunaSea wrote:
That's one of the reasons Starcraft II needs a "Fifa like" organisation i my opinion.
We had KESPA back in the days, if you sneezed at the wrong time you were executed. Don't exaggerate about kespa, most of their rules are necessary to make league a real professional environment. If Gom has better rules, there won't be any conflict in this case. Exaggerate? Please point out an adjective or adverb where I "exaggerated" kespa. Yes, Kespa might be a harsh organization but at least they have a system: licensing (being registered as a pro gamer), contracts, rules, etc. All in which GOM does not have. If they have these, please link me to documentation so I can verify. GOM needs more then rules, as stated above.
He responded to Grobo's comment about sneezing. I think you are a little defensive here...
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On December 15 2011 06:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:21 ElephantBaby wrote:On December 15 2011 06:15 grobo wrote:On December 15 2011 06:14 LunaSea wrote:
That's one of the reasons Starcraft II needs a "Fifa like" organisation i my opinion.
We had KESPA back in the days, if you sneezed at the wrong time you were executed. Don't exaggerate about kespa, most of their rules are necessary to make league a real professional environment. If Gom has better rules, there won't be any conflict in this case. Exaggerate? Please point out an adjective or adverb where I "exaggerated" kespa. Yes, Kespa might be a harsh organization but at least they have a system: licensing (being registered as a pro gamer), contracts, rules, etc. All in which GOM does not have. If they have these, please link me to documentation so I can verify. GOM needs more then rules, as stated above.
I guess we are on the same boat about this issue. I agree with what you said.
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On December 15 2011 06:23 nokz88 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:09 Tyrant0 wrote:On December 15 2011 06:06 baoluvboa wrote:On December 15 2011 06:04 Tyrant0 wrote:On December 15 2011 06:04 baoluvboa wrote:On December 15 2011 06:02 Tyrant0 wrote:On December 15 2011 05:58 Scrandom wrote:On December 15 2011 05:56 kafkaesque wrote:On December 15 2011 05:54 Fission wrote:On December 15 2011 05:53 ampson wrote:
Wow, what an overreaction. The only person he could have possibly offended was nestea. I'm offended because I paid to see games, and what I got was a no-hands probe-rush. Jesus Christ... How petty can you get? You are just blindly defending Naniwa, you said give him a break he had a bad day, Nestea went 0-4 and he came to play his final game, I think it was even on his birthday. It's not justified at all what Naniwa did, saying he had a bad day or that he was tired makes no sense, he had to play 4 games like everyone else and he wasn't the only one who had a bad day. People come to watch games not to see this stuff You have no idea if Nestea intended to throw the game with a roach rush. Nestea prepared for the match during his birthday and I'm pretty sure he didn't intend to go 0-3 before facing Naniwa. Everyone makes Nestea out to be a saint when he admitted to half-assing his game vs HuK for the sake of entertainment. "for the sake of entertainment" thats the difference, you basically made my point for me. Then embrace our pro players as wrestlers who don't actually play but stage matches to be as entertaining and fake as possible. why would I embrace naniwa when what he did in that particular case was disrespectful? He had a professional obligation to carry out and he failed to deliver due to the momentary weakness of his character. I hope that he will improve in the future but there is no reason to justify his behavior. Tyler put it best, it was inappropriate, and everyone can agree there were smarter decisions he could have made. In the end, it was a shitty situation for Naniwa to be in, and ultimately to me he proved hes way more real than Nestea. He won't fake a game to rile up fans who wouldn't know the difference. If he plays to give it his all, you can be damned sure hes playing with all of his heart. That, and the punishment is way, way to severe. Korea took it as disrespect and hyped it to be the worst thing in the world. Naniwa never intended to offend anyone. ...says the mind reader. Thank you for sharing this precious info with us. Oh wait, I'm a mind reader too, and I say he intended to offend everybody watching, plus all the organizers. Who are we gonna trust now? Quit the bias and accept that Naniwa was a jerk. Maybe he didn't think it was a huge deal, but acted like a jerk nonetheless. And you say he won't fake a game and imply Nestea would? You are messed up man. Nestea would play his heart out not because he has to fake it to please his fans, but because his damn job is progamer and he is responsible. And it's damn convenient that the format is in discussion after the thing is over. Why didn't Naniwa protest about it before? Why didn't he go "This format is fucked up and I'm not gonna play in it"? Oh wait, it's way easier to agree to the rules, and then cry like a man-child when things don't go his way, that's why.
Biased? Anything korea says is law, apparently. Don't bother making your own decisions, let GOMTV make them all for you. Speaking of bias; Nestea fan.
You're certainly the mind reader. I'm sure you've already checked GOM/Naniwa for any clarification as to whether or not Naniwa asked if he could forfeit/had to even play the match, whether ANY of the participants asked beforehand, whether they were told beforehand. Oh, wait, you didn't. For all you know he DID ask and was told no. This is why the whole controversy started in the first place, right? The fact there is absolutely no clarification in the rules about anything Naniwa did, and GOM/Korea are throwing a fit because they can.
I'm sorry you dislike Naniwa and this tournament served to fuel it further. If you don't like Naniwa, don't watch the tournaments he plays in. I'm pretty sure the only one crying in this entire dispute was Korea. But god forbid korea cries. HANG NANIWA.
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On December 15 2011 06:28 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:On December 15 2011 06:21 ElephantBaby wrote:On December 15 2011 06:15 grobo wrote:On December 15 2011 06:14 LunaSea wrote:
That's one of the reasons Starcraft II needs a "Fifa like" organisation i my opinion.
We had KESPA back in the days, if you sneezed at the wrong time you were executed. Don't exaggerate about kespa, most of their rules are necessary to make league a real professional environment. If Gom has better rules, there won't be any conflict in this case. Exaggerate? Please point out an adjective or adverb where I "exaggerated" kespa. Yes, Kespa might be a harsh organization but at least they have a system: licensing (being registered as a pro gamer), contracts, rules, etc. All in which GOM does not have. If they have these, please link me to documentation so I can verify. GOM needs more then rules, as stated above. He responded to Grobo's comment about sneezing. I think you are a little defensive here...
What's hilarious is that I just read that haha and was just about to remove the post. Good catch though. I was defensive because I'm used to TLers trying to argue with me when I have valid points.
Sorry
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On December 15 2011 06:18 BlazeFury01 wrote:
First off, there were no contracts, licenses, committee, or rule book stating a "rule" that Naniwa couldn't probe rush or throw games. Unless there is some documentation stating so then I could understand this harsh punishment but since there's not then they shouldn't be able to punish Naniwa. This is retarded, everybody should reconsider buying a ticket for GSL. This is completely unprofessional. From top to bottom the whole GSL format (No contracts, Rule Books and No Licenses) is just plain erroneous. What SC2 needs is Kespa.
no there is a contract. even if its not in written form when naniwa entered gsl he entered a contractual relationships and the provisions of the korean civil code apply to this contractual relationship
what naniwa did is a breach of contractual obligations called 불완전이행 (roughly translates into "faulty performance")
also same rules exist in the swedish civil law as well
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On December 15 2011 06:21 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:14 Tommylew wrote:
ok ok i think we just need to brush this under the carpet so many wrong things have been postedmaking everything wrong.. some which is true wsome which arent rue and somethat could be true but we dont know lol
All gone so so messy.
At end of day Nani was wrong with what he did, however understanable it is. gomtv are just as much to blame making them play a game where the is nothing on the line and had no impact on anyone qualifying.. Nani still should of done any strategy but what he did(4 gate is apparently acceptable or evena cannon rush). Punishment is harsh in many people eyes.... he still has a chance to qualify and show he should be there anyway(cant see it after going 0-10 vs koreans or is it 1-10)
Good game!!! Lets move on and disccuss somethign else as constant threads however much I back nani are starting to ruin this forum. why didnt naniwa say "you know what. f it. i am not playing a tournament where i theoretically would have to play even if i already got kicked out of the tournament. im not playing blizzard cup" before blizzard cup started and just forfeited his spot ? he knew the rules and took the risk when entering the tournament as the format was known beforehand
i dont know what pro gamer goes into any tournament EXPECTING to lose.....
Nani had said in his interview with TL and also the statement just released he was upset as he tried hard in the first 3 games and was so close the games and thought hed let himself and his supporters down.
God yout think Nestea went in expecting to g 0-3??? NO pro gamer goes into any touanremnt expecting to get hammered.... Hell if Nani and Nesta had both one a game each and perhaps the 2-2 could of took them to tie brake we wouldnt of even been here having this discussion at all...
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Naniwa has been always a ''special case''; don't fuck with his mindset... every sport has their ''special cases'', GOM/korean mindset is sterile and in uncomprehesable 'behavioral 'codes''..
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GOM should drop the regulation of ''this is a REAL pro'',
and korean fans should drop the ''being the smart ass gamer attitude''
PROBLEM SOLVED,
no BS just gameplay with REAL emotions, NOT nerdy shaking players b/c they ought to.
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On December 14 2011 18:41 Weemoed wrote:
Completely stupid punishment from GOM. Naniwa didn't do anything wrong according to the rules, and the punishment is purely based on the drama that was created. Really unprofessional in my opinion.
Speaking of unprofessional??
Look, respect is a big thing in Korea, you either have it or you don't. Theres no legal action to take in a situation like this.
You get what you deserve and if you act unprofessionally, you will be treated unprofessionally.
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On December 15 2011 06:29 ElephantBaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:On December 15 2011 06:21 ElephantBaby wrote:On December 15 2011 06:15 grobo wrote:On December 15 2011 06:14 LunaSea wrote:
That's one of the reasons Starcraft II needs a "Fifa like" organisation i my opinion.
We had KESPA back in the days, if you sneezed at the wrong time you were executed. Don't exaggerate about kespa, most of their rules are necessary to make league a real professional environment. If Gom has better rules, there won't be any conflict in this case. Exaggerate? Please point out an adjective or adverb where I "exaggerated" kespa. Yes, Kespa might be a harsh organization but at least they have a system: licensing (being registered as a pro gamer), contracts, rules, etc. All in which GOM does not have. If they have these, please link me to documentation so I can verify. GOM needs more then rules, as stated above. I guess we are on the same boat about this issue. I misunderstood you.
It's cool bro, I misunderstood your post. Sorry
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On December 15 2011 06:22 kanu_knl wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 05:04 ranshaked wrote:On December 15 2011 05:01 Velr wrote:On December 15 2011 04:59 ranshaked wrote:On December 15 2011 04:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 15 2011 04:54 ranshaked wrote:On December 15 2011 04:50 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 15 2011 04:46 ranshaked wrote:
How is this situation any different than a professional sports team sitting their best players before the playoffs? Or when a game is blown out and the left fielder comes in to pitch...
It was a useless game, and all sports have them. Read the thread. It's completely different because even if you use 3rd string players in a pointless game, you're still playing the fucking game and trying to win. Naniwa was essentially not playing the game at all, or, if you want to be 100% technical and say that he was physically playing the game, he threw it, which is comparable to match-fixing. And you could say last year when the patriots i believe didn't start their A team against a team that was vowing for a playoff spot. If the patriots had played their best team, then the other team would have lost and never gotten into the playoffs. Or in baseball when the #1 team plays a playoff contender, but chooses to rest their players because they've clinched the seed...meanwhile they throw the game with their 3rd string players and let the opposing team have an easy win. Naniwa did this in ONE game out of how many? This happens all the time in sports.
THOSE TEAMS STILL PLAYED THE FUCKING GAME THAT THEY WERE SCHEDULED TO PLAY. THEY DIDN'T JUST WALK OFF THE FIELD.Fuck people, read the thread. Why are you getting so pissed off? naniwa played the game. The game started, the game finished...Someone won, and someone lost...It's all the same. Especially since him losing this game didn't affect anything what so ever. I wouldn't have even played the game. What's the point? Clearly there was a flaw in the system. Blame the system, not the player. A professional Tennis player enters the court: He only does double faults when he has service by hitting the ball into funny directions. He only does handstands when he should be returning. Did he play the game? Theoretically yes. Would he get punished? He probably would never ever again set a foot on a professional tennis court. The thing is, the game wouldn't; have ever happened. At this point it's a show match...It means nothing. To me, you can do whatever you want if it means nothing. It's a pickup game. I like the tennis analogy the most because it is an 1v1 sport, like SC2. Team sports is different, because there are substitutions. You are right, a player can do anything he wants. But if his action is disrespectful to the organizers, fans, fellow players, he will lose their respect for him. He will not be invited in future tournament. A meaningless game did happen in tennis, and in other sports when the schedule is set. Depending on the tournament rule, but most of the time a match being played is independent of the results of previous matches. A match is scheduled and will be played no matter what. For real example in tennis. This year at the ATP World Tour Finals in London. Group Stage, round rubin, Mardy Fish vs Roger Federer. The match was meaningless to the order of the ranking in the group, but the match was still played. Fish was guaranteed to be out, Federer was guaranteed to win the group. Fish came out and played hard, took the match to 3 sets. He earned my respect. For Naniwa, No.
players are constantly disrespectful to each other in tennis, to the organizers, to the umpires, etc. there's tons of videos of fed swearing at umps, of soderling and nadal making fun of each other in a very harsh way, etc. the idea that tennis players would be disqualified for being disrespectful is ludicrous
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