EPTVery, very arbitrary decision.
NaNiwa not invited to Code S - Page 64
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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
Very, very arbitrary decision. | ||
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Spiner
United States360 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:07 SenorChang wrote: Don't use that as an excuse, it's not only Swede's defending him. uhm...I didn't say swedes were the only ones defending him. You should take some reading comprehension courses. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:12 tnud wrote: He drone rushed Nestea in a meaningless game, gg's. For that he gets kicked out of GSL because: This "abusive" behaviour was apparently SO HORRIBLE compared to all the BM we've seen in the GSL so far. He no have drones bro he protoss. | ||
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LamaMitHut
Germany187 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:08 Cejotas wrote: LOL I only see swedish defending him, cmon it's not the first time he gets banned and it won´t be the last. ^^ | ||
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Delicious Insanity
Belgium841 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:12 Talic_Zealot wrote: It seems to come down to every person's idea of respect and how important it is. The punishment may be harsh, but I am disgusted by how many people don't seem to have 'respect' as one of their ideology. I do think many people have 'respect' as one of their ideologies. Although it's subjective, I think many people will say Naniwa was disrespectful in one way or the other. The question is, is his punishment fair? Do his actions call for a ban from the first season? | ||
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FunkyFly
Sweden82 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
no what did it say? | ||
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Wasteweiser
Canada522 Posts
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SedativeDev
Slovenia316 Posts
Oh cmon... did u ever watch some of the gsl match?? manner mules, smack and ugly talk against idra, some of ceremonies... | ||
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Brett
Australia3823 Posts
Way to scramble and cover your own ineptitutde GOM!!!! This is so disappointing... | ||
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:12 tetrismaan wrote: Damn if I was one of the foreigner progamers in Korea, or some of the other eSport celebrities, I would boycut GOMtv and tell everyone to do so because this is really hurting eSports. Even HuK says on twitter: LorangerChris Chris Loranger "As much as everyone likes to overuse "killing esports", noone actually uses in the example when it actually is. Things like this kil esports" If he said that he's a fucking boss because he is absolutely right. | ||
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laguu
Finland278 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:12 Talic_Zealot wrote: It seems to come down to every person's idea of respect and how important it is. The punishment may be harsh, but I am disgusted by how many people don't seem to have 'respect' as a part of their ideology. What naniwa did was childish and stupid and I don't support that. However, GOM made the bigger mistake here. | ||
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:13 Pipeline wrote: You are setting a dangerous precedent when Gom starts saying a "bad strategy" is equal to abusive behaviour bad strategy = 4gate losing on purpose = probe rush | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:12 Klogbert wrote: This is an absolute JOKE...how about Mr. Chae admit his mistake first at the same time? That format creates situation like that, and you cannot expect NaNi to play it out. /done with GSL bring on KeSPA. Hahahaha, oh man, I'll just say this, care what you wish for. | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:12 tnud wrote: He drone rushed Nestea in a meaningless game, gg's. For that he gets kicked out of GSL because: This "abusive" behaviour was apparently SO HORRIBLE compared to all the BM we've seen in the GSL so far. T_T Wrong rule. There is a rule where if a player is determined to be unfit of being a progamer they can deny them participation. Being in Code S is a privelage, not a right. It can be taken away if you do something stupid like that to GOM. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:12 tetrismaan wrote: Damn if I was one of the foreigner progamers in Korea, or some of the other eSport celebrities, I would boycut GOMtv and tell everyone to do so because this is really hurting eSports. Even HuK says on twitter: LorangerChris Chris Loranger "As much as everyone likes to overuse "killing esports", noone actually uses in the example when it actually is. Things like this kil esports" Pro gamers aren't 100% always right. Also, don't you think HuK is being a little biased since Naniwa is part of his Protoss brethren? | ||
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Desert Fox
United States352 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:05 nugget-92 wrote: If GOM is going to host the Global Starcraft League and actually work at inviting foreign players to travel to their country to participate it is abhorrent for GOM to completely ignore the fact that these players will come from different cultures. Any reasonable organisation that plans to host a Global event has to accept that people from countries outside their own will have different ideals and will not act in a manner that will conform to you strict cultural sensibilities. Complexity and Quantic have now suffered significant financial damages because of this decision. Furthermore, Naniwa has invested significant time and effort into participating in this league and is now suspended. GOM has even stated that Naniwa is a money-hungry player. This suggests that GOM probably did not consult Naniwa before they made their decision. Why? Because Naniwa has maintained and shown that, whilst he is introverted and has trouble keeping his emotions in check, his aspirations lie with being the best. I stopped reading your post after the first line. A Global Starcraft League does not have to cater to every culture. To do so would be absolutely retarded. Should theocratic-based cultures determine whether or not females involved with GSL casts have to act differently or wear different clothing if one individual from such a culture gets invited? Fuck no, and if it happened it'd be absurd. All a league that intends to be global needs to do is offer the opportunity for people from the global community to compete within it. It establishes the rules, it sets the guidelines and it can operate however it wants. If some dumbfuck, backwards individual from a fringe yokel religion showed up to my Global Starcraft League and started shitting on how I permitted females to hold a job, I'd kick their ass to the curb. That's just how cultures work. Sometimes they don't intersect; sometimes there is no middle ground and sometimes one does not have to cater for the other. This is one of those times. The GSL has a set standard, they have punished people before for this type of inappropriate behavior and they sure as fuck weren't foreigners when it was done. Stop grasping for straws and stop fucking whining. | ||
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Mefano
Sweden190 Posts
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Stoffelhase
Germany162 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:11 Executor1 wrote: One thing i know for sure, is alot of people sent emails to gom yesterday saying that he should be punished for his actions. then a lot of people should do the same now telling them they disagree with this punishment. so do i | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
I personally think Naniwa did a shitty thing and should be punished. I'm Swedish. A lot of Swedes defend him because he has a lot of Swedish fans, it has nothing to do with Swedish culture. | ||
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