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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
December 07 2011 07:27 GMT
#81
I stick with 0/21/9. I also prefer merc treads, but if there isn't a whole ton of CC on the enemy team, I definitely consider getting CDR boots. I don't understand why you guys say CDR boots are weak on a CC machine like Leona. They're not as universally useful as mercs, but they're very good if you need to be more of a presence in teamfight imo.

I go with mpen reds because Sunlight's damage is very non-negligible, especially if you land your three aoe skills on a good number of people repeatedly.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 07 2011 14:56 GMT
#82
On December 07 2011 16:27 infinitestory wrote:
I stick with 0/21/9. I also prefer merc treads, but if there isn't a whole ton of CC on the enemy team, I definitely consider getting CDR boots. I don't understand why you guys say CDR boots are weak on a CC machine like Leona. They're not as universally useful as mercs, but they're very good if you need to be more of a presence in teamfight imo.

I go with mpen reds because Sunlight's damage is very non-negligible, especially if you land your three aoe skills on a good number of people repeatedly.

iirc there was a red post that confirmed that Sunlight counts as if it's damage were dealt by the person triggering it, not Leona. this was put in place so that Sunlight wouldn't KS your carry, but it does mean that it uses their MPen and not yours.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
December 07 2011 15:06 GMT
#83
I dunno how you guys are playing her, but If I'm going support I get CDR boots. The higher level you get the more people ignore supports and generally when you identify people who go for supports you can bait them super hard to chase you in teamfights and you'll come out ahead.

I did get mercs//ninja tabi when I was doing my like, non support leona where I got farm bot lane with a support and went wits end+frozen mallet or trinity into warmogs and atmas, but thats because I'm an actual threat to kill the people I cc and not just to set them up for my team, in which case if you're taking damage you're either ccing at a point nobody is following up on it or the other team is stupid. (and if they have aoe like kennen ult I tend to stay away until they are used on basically all melees.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 15:51:38
December 07 2011 15:49 GMT
#84
On December 07 2011 23:56 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 16:27 infinitestory wrote:
I stick with 0/21/9. I also prefer merc treads, but if there isn't a whole ton of CC on the enemy team, I definitely consider getting CDR boots. I don't understand why you guys say CDR boots are weak on a CC machine like Leona. They're not as universally useful as mercs, but they're very good if you need to be more of a presence in teamfight imo.

I go with mpen reds because Sunlight's damage is very non-negligible, especially if you land your three aoe skills on a good number of people repeatedly.

iirc there was a red post that confirmed that Sunlight counts as if it's damage were dealt by the person triggering it, not Leona. this was put in place so that Sunlight wouldn't KS your carry, but it does mean that it uses their MPen and not yours.

You 100% sure on that? I get way too many KSes for that to be true, I think >_>
EDIT: even if that's true, still most of my damage is magic, so mpen is fine
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 07 2011 16:07 GMT
#85
On December 08 2011 00:49 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 23:56 Mogwai wrote:
On December 07 2011 16:27 infinitestory wrote:
I stick with 0/21/9. I also prefer merc treads, but if there isn't a whole ton of CC on the enemy team, I definitely consider getting CDR boots. I don't understand why you guys say CDR boots are weak on a CC machine like Leona. They're not as universally useful as mercs, but they're very good if you need to be more of a presence in teamfight imo.

I go with mpen reds because Sunlight's damage is very non-negligible, especially if you land your three aoe skills on a good number of people repeatedly.

iirc there was a red post that confirmed that Sunlight counts as if it's damage were dealt by the person triggering it, not Leona. this was put in place so that Sunlight wouldn't KS your carry, but it does mean that it uses their MPen and not yours.

You 100% sure on that? I get way too many KSes for that to be true, I think >_>
EDIT: even if that's true, still most of my damage is magic, so mpen is fine

took me a year and a half to find it, but here you go: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=15991081#15991081
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 16:22:48
December 07 2011 16:22 GMT
#86
I actually almost never KS on leona I used to play like tons of leona+janna (always tower dive after level 3 never die huehuehue) or leona+support gp with buttersworth and he'd get kills and I'd get cs, was pretty funny having support gp with a <20 minute trinity in normals.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
December 07 2011 17:01 GMT
#87
On December 08 2011 01:22 Slayer91 wrote:
I actually almost never KS on leona I used to play like tons of leona+janna (always tower dive after level 3 never die huehuehue) or leona+support gp with buttersworth and he'd get kills and I'd get cs, was pretty funny having support gp with a <20 minute trinity in normals.

One of the most retarded things to see. But as Smash mentioned Panth+leona lane is pretty fucking insane. We shut down a vayne soraka lane really hard.

Too bad vayne still hit really hard. Like wtf.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 09 2011 06:44 GMT
#88
On December 08 2011 02:01 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 01:22 Slayer91 wrote:
I actually almost never KS on leona I used to play like tons of leona+janna (always tower dive after level 3 never die huehuehue) or leona+support gp with buttersworth and he'd get kills and I'd get cs, was pretty funny having support gp with a <20 minute trinity in normals.

One of the most retarded things to see. But as Smash mentioned Panth+leona lane is pretty fucking insane. We shut down a vayne soraka lane really hard.

Too bad vayne still hit really hard. Like wtf.

completely raped trist/alistar out of the game with Pantheon Leona just now, it's so stupid.
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getpicture
Profile Joined January 2011
141 Posts
December 11 2011 06:19 GMT
#89
stun punishes bads in lane. as well as bad team compositions. farming early game i.e gettings 20-30 more minion kills is overrated. as long as you dont feed and lose towers unnecessarily, leona does nothing. mst be playing low elo
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
December 11 2011 10:18 GMT
#90
Is panth Leona stronger than goose style jarvan Leona? I've been running jarvan Leona with my team and putting a strong ad lane top like vayne graves or Cait and its been working out amazing so far.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 11:09:08
December 11 2011 11:07 GMT
#91
You know I can't tell if getpicture is a troll or if he's just stupid/bad/misinformed. Going through his post history just confuses me :[

Heal/CV Leona is like my favorite support atm. 3 stuns so many stuns. You can shut down someone for 4 seconds by yourself easy. With max cdr your Q is on a 4 second cd. 1.25 second stun every 4 second OP. Your passive also does ridic damage if they're not expecting it.
On December 11 2011 19:18 Hakker wrote:
Is panth Leona stronger than goose style jarvan Leona? I've been running jarvan Leona with my team and putting a strong ad lane top like vayne graves or Cait and its been working out amazing so far.

It seems like Gosse style Jarvan/Leona is really about the cc chain and Jarvan's nice early game burst. I've never played it but I'd imagine that Panth/Leona would be just as strong or stronger. Jarvan's knockup is basically a 1 second stun. Panth has a 1 second stun that's arguably easier to land. Panth's also has a ton more damage than Jarvan.
warscythes
Profile Joined December 2011
365 Posts
December 11 2011 14:34 GMT
#92
On December 11 2011 20:07 Ryuu314 wrote:
You know I can't tell if getpicture is a troll or if he's just stupid/bad/misinformed. Going through his post history just confuses me :[

Heal/CV Leona is like my favorite support atm. 3 stuns so many stuns. You can shut down someone for 4 seconds by yourself easy. With max cdr your Q is on a 4 second cd. 1.25 second stun every 4 second OP. Your passive also does ridic damage if they're not expecting it.
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On December 11 2011 19:18 Hakker wrote:
Is panth Leona stronger than goose style jarvan Leona? I've been running jarvan Leona with my team and putting a strong ad lane top like vayne graves or Cait and its been working out amazing so far.

It seems like Gosse style Jarvan/Leona is really about the cc chain and Jarvan's nice early game burst. I've never played it but I'd imagine that Panth/Leona would be just as strong or stronger. Jarvan's knockup is basically a 1 second stun. Panth has a 1 second stun that's arguably easier to land. Panth's also has a ton more damage than Jarvan.


I tried both after Mogwai mentioning it.

J4/Leona sacrifice a bit of early game dominance for team fighting abilities. Even if you don't win your lane as J4/Leona(you shouldn't), the amount of utility the two champions provide is huge in any team fight.

Pan/Leona is basically crushing the other lane, Mogwai is right that when you reach lvl 2 the other lane dies or you are doing it wrong. The downside of this I believe is that that team comp's team fight abilities is not as strong as J4/Leona.

So pick and choose, although I think Pantheon/Leona is stronger in solo queue just because how hard you roll the other bot lane while J4 is better in arranged.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
December 15 2011 14:03 GMT
#93
Been having a blast w/support Leona in ranked - only three games, but I haven't actually died once, which beggars belief considering how often I get exploded as Alistar in similar situations.

These games have largely been over by the time I've finished Reverie/Mercs, maybe a HoG or Aegis, and I've been spamming wards+Oracles - however, if things go on for longer, should I save up towards Glacial Shroud/Frozen Heart, or just build a few Kindlegems for HP + CDR? Is it ever worth buying Soul Shroud?

Also - any good VoDs/replays of Mantheon/Jarman+Leona bot lane shenanigans? Haven't managed to persuade any randoms to give it a go at my ELO, alas.
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Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
December 15 2011 15:42 GMT
#94
just look at almost any series goose has played in the past 2 weeks
fuzzbox
Profile Joined February 2010
235 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 22:13:53
February 03 2012 10:12 GMT
#95
with the new support items, i want to open up discussion on leona again.

my last game [summs: exhaust/ignite] (AD Nid/Leona vs Cait/Nunu): started with rejuv 2 wards 2 pots into straight emblem of valor. i was only able to afford it after winning 2 team fights. this isn't a typical lane though since nid is weak early game. once she hit 6, we won every team fight if i initiated with ult.

grabbed HoG and didn't build philo for a long time. i noticed i was starved on ward money. i usually only had a ward or two in my pocket the entire time until late game. overall i think it worked well. i want to try this start again with a more conventional lane (i think it can only get better anyway).
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
February 03 2012 11:22 GMT
#96
Parts of a new Leona skin in the Leona hotfix:


Looks pretty cool.
fuzzbox
Profile Joined February 2010
235 Posts
February 03 2012 11:41 GMT
#97
On February 03 2012 20:22 Gahlo wrote:
Parts of a new Leona skin in the Leona hotfix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwST7fR2skc

Looks pretty cool.


wow they updated the animations on her abilities. awesome. also the fanned out shield from W is pretty cool too.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
February 03 2012 23:13 GMT
#98
Yeah, obviously the skin isn't done yet, but it looks pretty cool.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
February 03 2012 23:27 GMT
#99
i cant see any significant differences in the animations except for q (the w fanning out has always been there iirc)
still, sick skin, wish i had the RP for it :/
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DeltaBravo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
February 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#100
How does the new item, Locket of the Iron Solari, fit into leona's playstyle? It seems like its a pretty good aura for a support bot since leona has no direct heals and the on-use seems like a decent oh-shit button.
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