EPT[Champion] Leona - Page 4
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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LeglessPuppy
United States190 Posts
This is the build I had going before they surrendered: Start with Regrowth Pendant and 1 Potion. First back: get Philo Stone, Level 1 boots, and 2 wards (one for each side of mid) Next back: Eleisa's Miracle and CDR boots (The eleisa's miracle helps tremendously with the mana problems you run into as Leona and the CDR boots are self explanatory) The next back I grabbed a Sheen (makes bursting anyone down so much easier) and started working towards a soul shroud. After this they surrendered though so I was only able to complete my soul shroud and couldn't get any AP or AD items (usually a deathcap or atma's). The runes I was running were mainly armor pen, armor, MR/lvl, and Health quints. My masteries were 0/21/9 since I planned on going as a tank until I realized Leona can kill almost anyone 1v1 once you get a sheen (early game especially). I am curious to see how Leona works vs other squishies in mid. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Capping your CDR probably the best way to play support Leona though. 9% cdr from runes, 6% from masteries, and then cdr boots + kindlegem. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
mercs are required, just like all front-line tanks most of Leona's builds are not MR-centric so cdr boots and elysai's is a poor substitute for mercs especially since so many of her core items give CDR maxing CDR isn't as important as actually being able to use your skills (though maxing CDR is probably second most important) i think leona is the #1 champ in the game for carrying ruby (HP) crystals. pure HP is so good on her thanks to her shield and the fact that ruby crystals build so often into CDR items. i had one game where i just straight bought like 4 of them and was able to turn them all into something: kindlegem, heart of gold, kindlegem, soul shroud leona is best laned with someone who can rhythmically output damage as opposed to a burster so that they can make the most of her passive. ezreal + leona is a disgustingly strong combination because of their mobility and sustained damage | ||
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LeglessPuppy
United States190 Posts
I very rarely build up to the 40% cdr cap and usually stop at around 30%. This allows me to pretty much spam my Q and use my E and W regularly. Obviously I would not do the same build every game (cdr boots and elesias mainly, i always build a sheen to help with harass). If I play vs a team that is mainly AP then obviously I would build merc treads and just stop at a philo stone until mid-late game. Leona can mid, top or play as a support tank on bot very well (especially bot and I agree with the ez + leona combo). | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On November 01 2011 05:38 LeglessPuppy wrote: other MR items in mind I very rarely build up to the 40% cdr cap and usually stop at around 30% i always build a sheen to help with harass Leona can mid, top these are all just blatantly untrue or bad decisions on your part and i'm happy to explain why if you'd like | ||
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LeglessPuppy
United States190 Posts
By other MR items I mean things like a banshees veil and a FoN if it is needed since not every team is loaded with AP champs, MR isn't AS important as armor. For example the game that I was talking about with me shutting annie down in mid, they were Singed, GP, Ashe, Annie, and Shaco. They had a pretty bad team comp vs ours (Sion, Leona (me), Ashe, Sona, Renekton). As for me not capping CDR at the 40% is because usually the support on team builds a soulshroud of their own so I get double the effects which puts me at the 40% cap and gives me a stun every 3.69 seconds or whatever it is. The sheen is for games like the one I played where I can almost kill annie in 1 combo at level 3, so the sheen allows me to kill her before a tibbers is dropped on my head. Is it the best item to build on her? Of course not since there are better choices to make, but I prefer to be able to hold my own if need be. As for mid and top, it all depends on the team comp of the other team vs yours. I am interested to hear your takes on the points you brought up. | ||
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Fayfay
Sweden128 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On November 01 2011 05:38 LeglessPuppy wrote: For your style of play, you may find merc treads to be required but when you have other MR items in mind, you are fine with the tenacity from elesias and the cdr from the boots (as that can replace one of the more expensive CDR items and allow you to get something else). I very rarely build up to the 40% cdr cap and usually stop at around 30%. This allows me to pretty much spam my Q and use my E and W regularly. Obviously I would not do the same build every game (cdr boots and elesias mainly, i always build a sheen to help with harass). If I play vs a team that is mainly AP then obviously I would build merc treads and just stop at a philo stone until mid-late game. Leona can mid, top or play as a support tank on bot very well (especially bot and I agree with the ez + leona combo). Or you could get Tenacity from merc treads and CDR from Shurelias, while also providing your team with a shurelia's and giving yourself more HP, something Leona wants. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On November 17 2011 20:14 Fayfay wrote: Is Leona jungle viable now with new masteries? If so, what build would be best to use? I know she'll prolly never be the "best" jungler, but seems a fun thing to try. crap aoe damage without blowing through your mana. you can probably do the jungle but clear speeds will be pathetic played a game of leona since shes on free this week. does anyone ever build her pure ap for lols or are her ratios too shit? i played her tank and still did reasonable damage, insane survivability with defence steriod ;/but blowing people up is always fun | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
also leona solo top does work tho it no is so great, it basically turns into a farm war or you pray for jungle ganks said ganks are like 90% guaranteed success tho | ||
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
Armor quints and seals, armor pen or mpen reds (can't remember, doesn't really matter though) and MR blues. full defense runes, 9/21/0. (source)That Leona+Jarman bot lane was a thing of beauty. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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warscythes
365 Posts
On December 07 2011 05:07 Mogwai wrote: I like Leona + Pantheon more than Leona + J4, but they're both exceptionally strong burst lanes. I think the logic behind J4 + Leona lane is because they are both extremely strong team fight champions while having exceptional burst in lane. Pantheon have strong burst I believe but his team fight ability is weaker than J4, such is the trade off. I recall Atlanta saying that whoever Leona or J4 ult it kinda marks the person for people to focus on, so it helps with coordination as well. Just my 2 cents. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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warscythes
365 Posts
On December 07 2011 06:05 Mogwai wrote: I'm just saying that leona can time her damage much closer together with a Pantheon lane because she can just combo while he casts HSS and you'll trigger her passive as many times as possible, whereas you need to space them out more with J4 to get all the triggers. Oh I don't disagree with you, I am just repeating what Atlanta said. Although J4's CC especially at 6 should balance that out a bit and if Leona ult first -> J4 jump in(proc) -> Leona E in -> J4 right click(proc) -> Leona stun -> J4 flag(proc) -> Leona W -> J4 Q or another right click(proc) doesn't sound "that difficult. It feels pretty natural. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On December 07 2011 06:41 Sabin010 wrote: J4 Leona lane is too strong. I played Ryze and rooted a guy next thing I knew I got blown up. don't root J4 with Ryze, it's a trap. | ||
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fuzzbox
235 Posts
On November 01 2011 05:17 gtrsrs wrote: cdr boots are wrong on leona mercs are required, just like all front-line tanks most of Leona's builds are not MR-centric so cdr boots and elysai's is a poor substitute for mercs especially since so many of her core items give CDR maxing CDR isn't as important as actually being able to use your skills (though maxing CDR is probably second most important) i think leona is the #1 champ in the game for carrying ruby (HP) crystals. pure HP is so good on her thanks to her shield and the fact that ruby crystals build so often into CDR items. i had one game where i just straight bought like 4 of them and was able to turn them all into something: kindlegem, heart of gold, kindlegem, soul shroud leona is best laned with someone who can rhythmically output damage as opposed to a burster so that they can make the most of her passive. ezreal + leona is a disgustingly strong combination because of their mobility and sustained damage this is correct. CDR boots are weak on leona. she needs the extra resist because she will be taking the frontloaded damage. getting HP on her is best although usually i start cloth armor/ward/pot at bottom because Ruby Crystal is too expensive. if i'm doing well -> HoG, if not i go philo first. extra HP with her W on makes her near unkillable. your job is to set up the team fight and stick on the most threatening target (usually the carry, this is also why her E lets you hop to the last champion hit). you don't do a lot of damage to begin with so sheen is worthless. for reds though, i take flat AD. she has a pretty high base AD, with a little boost, she can hit pretty hard early. | ||
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