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Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
June 29 2011 08:32 GMT
#81
Every time you, you should rip off a small birds heart and eat it right there. That should keep you entertained for a while. If you win, the bird shall live.
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 09:00:49
June 29 2011 08:59 GMT
#82
If you like earning your victories and winning because of the decisions you make against other players who are also trying to win a decision war of atrition, stick with sc2. It will reward you in a way no other game will.

If that's not the case and you just want an easy game you don't have to work too hard at but still requires some effort and practice, check out an MMO like WoW.

the biggest part about learning in this game if you are a social person though is playing with people who are learning with you or friends who are teaching you. I can't tell you how good it felt after i played 200+ games against my friend the first time i ever beat him. I didnt play him for 3 days though after that cause i knew i still had a long road ahead of me lol
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
June 29 2011 09:10 GMT
#83
Well when i first started getting frustrated, instead of hitting the ladder, i would just 4v4, or free for all, or custom VS random people. no real points are on the line, and you can just chill and get better mechanics, or just play custom games all day, youl get a mix of shitty and decent players. and you can try new builds, or things youd like to work on, without worrying about the ladder taking your points. GL
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Bey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
June 29 2011 09:12 GMT
#84
I HIGHLY recommend playing in tournaments targeted to your skill level. Tournaments are super fun and help break up the monotony of endless ladder games, plus they give you something to work towards even at a casual pace (e.g. "This month, I want to make it one round deeper than I did last month").

If you want to play without stressing over ladder rank and stuff, play 1v1 in custom games. It really lets you focus on a goal other than just winning the next match and you never know the type of opponent you're going to run into.

Lastly: banelings. If you're getting bored, you're probably not building enough banelings. There's nothing more satisfying than that sizzling sound on a bunch of marines except maybe watching their mineral line explode.
Do it. Do it right. Do it right now.
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
June 29 2011 09:18 GMT
#85
do weird shit with a friend in 2v2
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Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 09:28:07
June 29 2011 09:22 GMT
#86
Team games + race switch. I started playing random 2v2s as terran (my main race is zerg) and it was absolutely wonderful. Of course, you lose a bunch of games, but you expect to, it's not your main race, so there's much, much less pressure. Also, you improve waaaaaaay faster playing a different race than you do your main race, which feels great. And all the fun of figuring out builds and all the nuances of a new race are there.

Making 1v1 fun is about setting the right goals. Your goal should be to win, but it should simultaneously be to improve. The way to enjoy improving is to set specific goals for yourself every game, like, "I want to execute my build perfectly up to 40 food" or "I want to scout so well that I'm cheese proof, every game" Don't be content with losing, but be proud of the little accomplishments each game.
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DesertedPanda
Profile Joined March 2011
United States10 Posts
June 29 2011 09:29 GMT
#87
On June 29 2011 17:32 Darksoldierr wrote:
Every time you, you should rip off a small birds heart and eat it right there. That should keep you entertained for a while. If you win, the bird shall live.


I already ran out of birds. Brb pet shop.
Malyce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Switzerland112 Posts
June 29 2011 09:36 GMT
#88

I'd say it depends a lot on your personnality, and how hard you take losses.

First of all finding a team helps a ton. Watch GSL/TSL/NASL/HSC/Dreamhack with people you enjoy playing with, get to know the game, debate the builds, and socialise. People tend to neglect the social factor in video games, with is what is at the root of the explosion of e-sports and MMORPG games. Try team games, as many people have said, but preferrably with people you know, try monobattles, funky buildorders, ridiculous drops and stupid harassment. I like to play random in team games, even though I suck in T and Z, just because I like nukes and making a billion banelings at once.

For 1v1, I like to see it as a sport, at least in terms of mentality. You train to get better. If you lose you feel frustrated, all the more so because this game is to a certain extent a competition of skill, and it hurts your ego to feel less skilled. On the other hand if you have a team, you can imbarage, get all hot-headed, and get a good laugh as well as the knowledge that you're not the only one struggling.

If you win, you feel great, superior to your opponent. Eventually you'll progress and go on winning streaks, get promoted, and feel a lot better about yourself. Once you get a team, there are a billion clanwars you can participate in, where you'll feel all the better about winning, and have a team to console you if you lose.

So I'd say to summarize, getting into a team that you feel good in is the best thing you can do to make the game fun. If you have IRL friends to play with that's great, if not that's fine. Don't neglect the social aspect of SC2, that's where the fun lies.
Johnnybb
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark486 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 09:45:04
June 29 2011 09:44 GMT
#89
You have to change your mindset. Instead of getting mad of losing to a much better player, think about what you learned/improved during the game. Ladder doesn't mean shit, so don't be afraid to use it for practice. You should look for custom games in a channel, might be a good place to find Bronze/Silver players.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 29 2011 09:45 GMT
#90
You know, similar threads pop up every once in a while, and my first thought is always to wonder why are you (the OP, or anyone really) playing Starcraft?

Is it because it's a (fairly) new hit game that's getting increasingly popular and you're just trying it out? Is it just a random thing you picked up and decided you want to get good at? Is it because you're a fan of SC2 as an esport and want a taste of gameplay for yourself?

If you don't find the time you spend playing Starcraft rewarding in some way already, and you haven't had fun in the first week you played the game while you were still learning, then I don't think there's much you can do to "make it" more fun and rewarding in the long run either.

You seem to think that becoming a better player will somehow make it less frustrating, but I honestly don't think so. Sure your games might become more eye-candy good from an observer's point of view, but as a player you'll always feel the struggle and anxiety, and if you're prone to being frustrated, that just won't go away at any point. In fact it will likely get even worse because you're taking the game more seriously when you're somewhat good at it. It's just what Starcraft is.

The last thing I want is to discourage anyone from playing the game, and I'm only writing this after reading through many similar threads so far and I see so many people being so frustrated with the game. But this is my honest opinion - you NEED to enjoy the activity of actually playing the game and thinking about the game, regardless of the skill level, opponents or results. If you don't just enjoy playing, then it might not be your thing.

I don't think there are such players that don't ever get frustrated, but to make up for that and to make your time playing Starcraft rewarding, you need to love and enjoy the game on a fundamental level. Unlike many other games, Starcraft isn't addictive - you'll only get into it if you really really like it.
Stolat
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland241 Posts
June 29 2011 09:49 GMT
#91
I actually understand him perfectly, as i actually prefer watching streams ( i assume i watch more than 5-6 games daily), then playing the game - (max 2 games daily)
UF fight!
RedHelix
Profile Joined August 2010
250 Posts
June 29 2011 09:51 GMT
#92
Play team games to improve your mechanics, i find team games to be less stressful than 1v1's. Also you can watch pro streams and tournaments to get the strategy part of the game naturally, you'll pick up the basics and then when you feel confident enough try the 1v1 ladder again. I was pretty terrible when i started sc2 and never played 1v1's because i found it too stressful, a couple of months of watching sc2 and playing team games pretty much made all the difference, i was destroying everyone from gold to diamond and the games weren't even close.
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
June 29 2011 09:56 GMT
#93
Best tip is play to random race and/or start playing 4v4 and 3v3. This will make you confident and curious of the potential of the builds you use in 1v1. Also Cheese a lot if. it's very fun xD.
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
te3l
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada126 Posts
June 29 2011 10:01 GMT
#94
I remember when I got into diamond and thought I didn't belong since I kept losing. I started to watch pro's of my race and see how they understood the game. you will naturally improve with the more games you play. Don't let losing demotivate you. If you want to get better start with the basics, it doesnt have to be against an easy computer. Just build workers and try not to get supply blocked.
Nando
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany32 Posts
June 29 2011 10:07 GMT
#95
It definitly a problem for many. I got into Plat at the beginning of S2 but since then i'm kida stuck there and have no real motivation to get better.
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
June 29 2011 10:17 GMT
#96
Tallin got it alright in my opinion. The game is being played and talked about in an atmosphere of constant improvement and competitiveness which might be uncomfortable for many people. You may want to think if you are one of those people, and if so, try to shake it off and look at SC2 from a different angle, as in maybe try to focus on a different aspect of gameplay or try out some totally new stuff. Be creative, that way you will find what you enjoy the most about the game and stick to it. I also believe that team games are serving as a mean of relaxation very well, really like to play a match or two with my mate after laddering.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
BushidoSnipr
Profile Joined November 2010
United States910 Posts
June 29 2011 10:21 GMT
#97
purposely lose until you get demoted to a league that suits your skill, then you'll enjoy getting better and playing players of your skill.

Thats what I tell all my nubs friends who placed into plat cuz they know how to cheese. I myself got placed into bronze and worked my way up, and I deeply enjoy playing the game.
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
June 29 2011 10:36 GMT
#98
stop caring for wins
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 10:51:13
June 29 2011 10:47 GMT
#99
Life is short. Don't waste your time doing things you don't feel fun doing, when their main purpose is to be fun. It's like marrying a woman and trying to change her to what you want her to be. Or a friend giving you a toy and you forcing yourself to like it just because your circle of friends like it. Not everyone enjoys the same things. Just because you are on the boat of this community, doesn't mean there aren't a lot more out there where you could actually have fun playing the game. Also think whether you're playing this because you want to prove something to yourself, be it make it to X league or whatever, or to have fun, which doesn't seem to be the case.

If you're playing this just for the sake of being good, i suggest you look at other things that are much more useful in life, like proving to yourself you can like learning a language in 2 months, master some other useful skill, be it parkour, swimming, tennis, getting X grade average in college chairs, etc.

I'm saying this because i was wasting my time with this game for nothing. Yes it was fun - specially when i changed from Protoss since beta, to Zerg a while ago, and i was improving very fast, got back to Diamond, droppped to Plat due to change race, in less than a month going for masters. But then what? In some years i'll look back and this will be time i'll never get back, and there are so much better things to do, that you can also feel like you accomplished somthing and had fun at the same time, at whole greater levels.
Clamev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany498 Posts
June 29 2011 10:47 GMT
#100
If playing the game is not fun for you, you just shouldn´t play.
It´s as simple as that.For some people starcraft and especially improving is not fun.
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