EPTStarcraft is not fun. How do I make it fun? - Page 10
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Trizz
Netherlands1318 Posts
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bob198
Canada14 Posts
 So you learn with training wheels, then that gets boring so you move on to the real thing. Sounds like you are stuck between your training wheels and the real thing. Keep playing! You'll eventually start having fun when you start winning the occasional game. you say you keep losing, it's probably because you just started online and you're getting abused by timing attacks. This is what the entire mid game is about. Timing attacks with compositions and upgrades that bring out the best in your race. Learn to beat those, and then you might make it to the late game! Where once again you will need to learn how to balance the macro/micro requirements of your race. | ||
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Roflhaxx
Korea (South)1244 Posts
On June 29 2011 14:35 Carush wrote: try playing another race that's what got me remotivated This, I was sick and tired of zerg, then I switched to protoss and it was like a spark inside me! | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
(Jk I played Halo for 4 years its a cool game) | ||
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SeraKuDA
Canada343 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On June 30 2011 02:45 Trizz wrote: By not taking the game so serious, rather play relaxed and try not to care if you lose/win. This is awesome advice. As long as you play the game with an intent to win, but don't get frustrated from a loss, you will improve. It will take a long time, but it isn't stressful, and it can make the game fun. If you're still not having fun, maybe you just don't think SC2 is a fun game?? | ||
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Shizanu
Germany44 Posts
Dont try it till you get demoted or something though - the actual matchmaking doesn´t care about league. Just go quit 10 games and then start playing again. 7 games loosing streaks isn´t super rare though, especially with things being more volatile in lower leagues. Dealing with those is something you are going to have to learn, because its going to happen once every hundred games. You not dying to cheese is kinda funny though :D. Most people who want to play macro, have 80% of their losses to cheese (which is probably why you loose macro games). You could also try find some custom maps that help train some aspects while still being fun. Micro arena by Morrow for example. | ||
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Samuel Neptune
United States95 Posts
On June 30 2011 02:45 Trizz wrote: By not taking the game so serious, rather play relaxed and try not to care if you lose/win. ^ great wisdom from the netherlands | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On June 29 2011 14:35 Carush wrote: try playing another race that's what got me remotivated This is true. I switched from terran to toss, and while it feels hard to beat terran, zerg feels like a much better MU. Either way, it helps you understand how the other races work as well | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
you should get better over time anyways | ||
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RDaneelOlivaw
Vatican City State733 Posts
Tesomas.900 if you need one | ||
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enecateReAP
United Kingdom378 Posts
My solution was to use another account and just off-race, I played protoss, because it requires very little effort to win and It brought me back.I think everyone at some point needs to play casually to feel more relaxed and comfortable about the game. | ||
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LuisFrost
Mexico130 Posts
- Play random for a while. You get cheesed less, have much more variety and you get to learn from every strategy used against you. And whenever someone uses something fancy to beat you (only marines and medivacs in TvT, phoenix builds, spellcaster or air builds) you can try to copy it. The con is that you improve slower, but skill does translate in some degree between all races: learn to use mutas and then you can use banshees like them. Expand like a zerg with the protoss. This sort of stuff. It's fun. - Focus on getting an early economic advantage. Say to yourself something like "i will fast expand and i will hold anything they throw against me". Don't shy away from trying it and do it every game, you will die A LOT but eventually you will be able to hold anything. It's more fun to play like this because you can tech to fancy micro intensive units faster. It's a lot more fun to defeat people with templars that with 4gates, for example. More money= more potential to explore the tech paths and strats. - Forget about the deathballs. Go for micro intensive high risk/high reward units or styles: heavy spellcasters or flying unit styles where one mistake costs you the game are very fun, so is staying on a lot of low tech units while being very agressive and trading armys constantly. There's nothing more anticlimatic than staying in your base for 20 blizz minutes and then a-moving to victory. | ||
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BeanerBurrito
1010 Posts
when i lose a game i don't like it, but i do have "fun" by realizing that the game was practice, and that i just learned one way that i should never lose to again if you want to become good at a game like starcraft you are going to have to lose, but making something out of the losses to make them not as bad, as well as enjoying the wins and getting something out of them as well, is what makes the game fun for me but then again all i really care about is improvement, the game being fun to play is almost irrelevant to me, because i get the fun when i do something good or improve no matter if it was fun to execute or not | ||
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homeless_guy
United States321 Posts
i was mid-high level diamond about 6mo ago when i stopped playing to teach full time. i take it fairly easy & just got back in to the game last week. i mostly 2v2 with random guys while i work on mechanics, scouting, macro, and reading build orders. late game is a weakness for me, at least 2v2. my advice is just take it easy. play a few games, take a break; drink a few beers and cheese in custom games or something--as long as you practice playing smart, everything will help you. anyway, the point is add me if u want and we can 1v1 or 2v2. | ||
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sefio
103 Posts
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SpearWrit
United States300 Posts
It will literally solve all your problems. How to Improve Efficiently at SC2 1v1, by CecilSunkure | ||
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muzzy
United States640 Posts
I find that if I keep playing after 2 losses, my own frustration starts to kill my play and I end up doing worse, which just compounds upon the already bad situation. And actually, I apply the "2 game" rule to wins most of the time, too. If I win two games, I take a breather. It's nice to end things on a good note sometimes. Basically, I find that by limiting myself to two games per "session", I avoid those wild swings in mood. Also, I find the best way to keep improving is to dedicate yourself to playing daily, even if it's just a match or two. If you take time off from this game, it's very frustrating coming back. Every time I've taken a week or two off because I'm busy, I regret it. Even a single game before bed keeps you sharp. | ||
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ArtTherapist
United States3 Posts
Also, APM is not that big of a deal. Once you get past the basic mechanics I believe that this game is way more of a thinking game than a move really fast and do a lot of things at once game. 80 APM 1850 masters reporting in. | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On June 29 2011 14:32 DesertedPanda wrote: Short Story: I'm new, I suck and I was placed in platinum because I can beat a cheese. Now I just lose a bunch, and the game is not fun at all for me. How do you enjoy the game while learning essential skills? Key point: I want to have fun. Spending 6 hours a day practicing macro against a very easy computer so I can have fun a month or so down the road is not my idea of fun now. Long Story: I have had Starcraft for a very long time (since BW), but I just recently decided to start multiplayer. I got sick of rocks in practice league, so I decided to work on a solid opening and macro and then jump into some real games. I lost one of my placement matches to a legitimate player. I won the other four because they cheesed and my solid opening saved me. To my simultaneous surprise and dismay, I was in platinum. I can beat cheeses, but I hate playing against them. I like to play real matches. The problem is that I can't win any games that go past my opening because I just don't have good macro or multitasking yet. But it's not that I don't want any challenge, it's that the game isn't fun for me. It's even less fun because all of my friends are afraid of Starcraft, so I'm flying solo. I am so sick of losing every single game. I don't feel like I'm improving very much at all when I prolong a game by building a futile army, but at the same time I don't want to just give up every time my macro falls apart. Sure, practicing would help me stay in platinum eventually, but I started multiplayer because I just want to have fun now. Is there any way to enjoy the game while learning the ropes? I would really like any suggestions you have. Not just legit suggestions like "practice your macro with a buddy" or "Develop your own build order". There are no stupid answers, because I want silly, fun things to do. If you think I should play Toss and spell words with my zealots until I'm in bronze league, I'll try it. Edit: My additional information got lost in a sea of responses, so here are two key points I want to add. 1. My friends did not buy Starcraft and then become scared. They just ARE scared. They all play console exclusively, as in I suggest a PC game and they scoff and go back to codbops. Starcraft is something that they never want to get in to, because all they think about is 400APM and losing to Koreans (obviously the only people who play Starcraft). I'm not giving up, but I literally do not know a single person who plays. Once again, I request proxy friends/2v2/3v3/4v4 partners if you are willing. 2. I am not proud of being the worst Platinum Starcraft player (until the placement system screws over the next one). The silver leaguer that beat me a while ago wouldn't stop sending me messages about how awful I am at this game. I'm sorry, but telling me to swallow my pride does not help me. Allow me to say that again. I am not proud of making it into platinum. My 7 loss streak will attest to that. Telling me that I need to let go of my connection to my rank will not benefit me, because no connection is there. If you have legit suggestions, carry on. If this is all you have to say to me, your concerns have been addressed. Thank you for your time. You have to lose to get better at 1v1. If you want to have fun, play team games, where the win is enjoyable, but the loss isn't nearly as bad if you share it with a team. | ||
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