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Dariusz
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland657 Posts
June 29 2011 13:41 GMT
#141
Do 10 pushups every time you lose a ladder game.
Rushingwolf
Profile Joined October 2010
78 Posts
June 29 2011 13:46 GMT
#142
starcraft 2 is just competitive, its not meant fun as blizzard decided to take any fun (aka makes the game more imbalanced) and implements macro as skill barriers.

Team games feel incomplete and are compared to wc3 just a waste of time as there is no reward at all for a single player when the rest of the team is bad. Just a rush feast on every level.
ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
June 29 2011 13:47 GMT
#143
Ah, I feel for you man. My friend got the game new, and during his placement matches he went 3-2 just because the people he played tried cheesing like cannon rushing. He was placed in gold, but right now is playing only silver and bronze and going about .500. Too bad blizzard doesn't demote quicker in some cases.

Either way, on to your question on how to make it more fun. The first thing i'd recommend doing is determining your race 100%. If your currently playing 1 race but haven't tried the others out, or even have a slice of interest, i'd try the new ones out. That should give you some interest, and macro is fairly universal. Each race just needs a few minor adjustments such as hotkeys to macro well. The other thing I'd recommend is just play ladder, and if you start getting bored play customs.
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TVUmK
Profile Joined April 2011
United States91 Posts
June 29 2011 13:48 GMT
#144
i play random customs when i get frustrated, or just play TF2 with my friends.
"Just go (freaking) kill him!"-Day9
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
June 29 2011 13:48 GMT
#145


Substances.
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lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
June 29 2011 13:49 GMT
#146
1v1 Obs Metalopolis

Watch others play, get the chance to play, chat with others while doing so.

This gives you a chance to try the three races against familiar opponents--which makes them less scary and stress inducing.

I would then play a few 3v3 games and aim to just mass low tier units. Marines, Maruaders, Stalkers, Zealots, etc... It's an easy way to practice your macro because you simply let your allies do the scouting and strategy for you. Be like "I'm going to mass stalkers" and just focus on massing stalkers. When your allies say attack--attack. When your allies need help--help. But put almost all your attention into not getting supply blocked and not forgetting to build units all the while you don't sacrifice the "strategy" part of the game, you simply let someone else do the thinking for a game or two until you feel more comfortable.

Here's the thing. Macro and Micro should not be things you need to think about. They should be reflex more than anything. Until you get to this point, it will seem frustrating. So doing customs like the 1v1 Obs games or doing team games allows you the time and the leeway to practice your macro.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
June 29 2011 13:58 GMT
#147
If you are good against cheeeses you can reach masters league in a short time.After masters league most people dont cheese (pick large maps)
You dont have to practice vs computer much because sc2 macro is easier.You can develop macro while laddering.
If you just want to have fun i guess play more casual games.Sc2 is not all about fun it is about improvement, competition and perfection.
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No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
June 29 2011 14:12 GMT
#148
u need to get fun about improving, get nice games, and play better day after day.. u can enjoy playing with practice partners too, but essentially u need not tu suffer about lose!!!! Starcraft its for the manliest gamers in earth!!!
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
June 29 2011 14:13 GMT
#149
This sounds like it's purely a matchmaking issue.

The game's matchmaking is very good, but things like that have to happen sometimes for people who start to play long after the release. The thing is, while your league stays with you for quite a while, your (hidden) matchmaking rating is very volatile, so you will naturally meet players you can beat in a very short time.

You will then play against guys who are learning as well, and you will win some games. You will not only learn the (tedious) macro aspects of the game, but also figure out what unit compositions and tech paths you want to use, a few tricks, some micro as well, and you will probably have fun because the game is very good.

Platinum and above represents something like the top 25% players, so picking up this (very competitive) game and expecting to win is ridiculous. You were just unlucky to be placed against guys who've played this game for litterally hundreds of hours.
letmegopls
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
105 Posts
June 29 2011 14:16 GMT
#150
play 4v4 and bejeweled
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
June 29 2011 14:16 GMT
#151
Find friends to play with, find a team/form a team, watch streams or play a different race.
gl!
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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
June 29 2011 14:16 GMT
#152
I guess i almost read everything here and still cant find what race you play.
but if you are not playing zerg i would advice you to switch to more aggressive stuff. and i dont mean cheese. because a big part of your frustration is always about HOW you lose. it feels less painful when you were the active part of the game.
if the enemy dictates the game and wins, it will feel as twice as bad.
im talking about stuff like 2 rax builds vs Z and P. or if you are protoss stuff like 3 gate pressure into expand vs T.
just be active, try to make it YOUR game. it will help at least a bit.
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 14:25:43
June 29 2011 14:24 GMT
#153
Dude, Im in High Diamond and I went on an eight loss streak, and at that point the game was not very fun for me at all. I'm a zerg player, so what I stopped doing was trying to furiously outmacro my opponent and beat them with waves of units, and instead just play really aggressively, like roach-ling, proxy hatch, baneling bust, nydus, and drops. It's not a cheesy style of play, just one that is more aggressive and utilizes timings, rather than playing 30 minute macro games for every win, while losing to 6 min T/P one basing all-in's or whatever. This let me relax a lot more when I play, and feel much less aggravated and victimized than when I would get attacked while getting a fast third and pumping out waves of drones and just barely scraping by with units haha. I guess what I'm saying is find a fast paced, aggressive style of play, because that style is usually more fun. Even perfecting one base play will lead to good macro, and slowly you will be able to handle 2+ base. Gl.

edit: haha hive mind ^
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Molu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden42 Posts
June 29 2011 14:31 GMT
#154
You can always hook up some players in the lower brackets to play custom 1v1s against, to improve you skills. Get others to observe your game to give you some pointers. If you play on the EU server, feel free to PM me on TL and we could play some games, both 2v2 and 1v1s. (not like I'm good or anything, just offering to play you, help out any way I can )

If you keep losing, you should soon enough get demoted to lower leagues, right?

Something that helped me a bunch when I was "new" and had a really hard time winning games was looking at streams, ESPECIALLY streams where people got coached by pros. You pick up so much from that!

Just keep on man! You'll soon get demoted to a proper league, at the same time as your skill will improve, you'll start to balance your w/l rating, and find it more funny = improve even more rapidly.

Hang in there, it'll get better!
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 14:33:17
June 29 2011 14:33 GMT
#155
On June 29 2011 22:41 Dariusz wrote:
Do 10 pushups every time you lose a ladder game.

this
i stopped playing 3 months ago after being stuck in masters, what do i do :<
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
GayFish
Profile Joined June 2011
England1 Post
June 29 2011 14:33 GMT
#156
Hey mate, People are gonna hate :D but to have fun try something ridicioulous. Get a team of 4 and all go mass carrier. Maybe play a 2v2 and cannon rush. Just be social, maybe even find a team, or just cheese alot
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
mavsfan0041
Profile Joined February 2011
United States306 Posts
June 29 2011 14:34 GMT
#157
If you're looking to have fun in this game... Pick protoss and cheese to your heart's content. I do this in 2v2 when I get bored and I laugh every game as they rage against my inbase 2 gate or cannon rush or void rays. You'll win some games, but if you're in plat you should lose at least some and eventually get dropped down to a lower league. Hopefully with this in combination with some of the other suggestions will help you get better and put you in a league that you can have fun in.
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Kazzoo
Profile Joined October 2010
France368 Posts
June 29 2011 14:37 GMT
#158
If you don't have fun with SC may be you should try playing something else. Some games you like, some games you don't.
SnuggleZhenya
Profile Joined July 2010
596 Posts
June 29 2011 14:47 GMT
#159
You have to LIKE the process of learning and improving for its own sake. Thats the key. It sounds like you don't. You mentioned "Oh, I don't want to have to practice so I can enjoy it in a few months" (paraphrasing). There is your problem. The key to enjoying Starcraft is to enjoy the *process* not the *result.*

If you aren't interested in that, stick to team games, custom games, etc., and if you still don't like it, you may just want to choose another game.
You'll never get better being an angry nerd sitting alone in your room.
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
June 29 2011 14:57 GMT
#160
On June 29 2011 14:36 Xova wrote:
Its extremely difficult to play this game and actually have a good time, unless you're playing team games with friends. As for 1v1 I don't think there is much fun to be had while learning.

All I play is 1v1 and by the end of the day I feel like going into baby punching mode, but yet I do it again the next day...


i feel exactly like this..i have the most fun in customs with friends, doing ghosts rush etc:>
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