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NOTE: I don't know why everyone is giving me so much crap about how my standards are too high. You haven't even seen the girls I'm approaching. Pretty much the only ones I avoid are fat ones.
I’m 17 and I’ve never had a girlfriend, never gotten laid even. I just can’t for the life of me figure out what the problem is. Before you tell me to approach more, I approach like 10 chicks a day. I pretty much exhausted my high school supply so nowadays I go to the mall for my practice. It just boggles my mind how statistically unlucky I am. I mean, doesn’t statistics state that even with a 1% success rate you’ll eventually succeed if you try enough times?
At first, I figured the problem must be my appearance. So I swapped my glasses for contacts. Voila, no more nerdy looking Asian (yeah, I’m Asian). I honestly don’t think I look that bad anymore – average at least.
![[image loading]](http://www.filedump.net/dumped/img462f267e71f0c1294552407.jpg)
It’s really weird when all the girls give me an “as if” look when I approach.
So then I read David Deangelo’s double your dating and thought that I had the answer. Wrong. I’ve tried pretty much every approach in the book and get turned down every single time. I tried being super nice and telling them how beautiful they are (in unique ways like pointing out an article of clothing), telling them they have good taste, etc, but that usually ends with them acting awkward and finding an excuse to leave. Then I switched to some opinion openers, asking them opinions about a certain brand of clothes, even throwing in a few negs like “lol you only like Abercrombie just because of all the male models on the cover you shallow girl”. It just doesn’t work. I figure I must be communicating too much interest, right? Wrong. Even when I actively try to communicate disinterest by saying, hey I gotta go now, my friend’s calling, they just never come towards me, always away.
I used to get turned down in the worst possible ways, like the girl walking (sometimes running) away from me after a few minutes of conversation, saying sorry I don’t want to talk anymore, to flat out “LEAVE ME ALONE”. Nowadays I usually get the “I have a boyfriend” line, which is an improvement I guess. I tried everything possible to try to counter it. I tried the “oh, yeah, does he treat you well?” *wait for response, usually ‘yes’* “Oh, *grin*, I wouldn’t…” But out of 20 tries, that line never worked, even though it produced a smile in 11 girls. Then I tried the goldfish line that I read about. “Oh, you have a boyfriend? Well I have a goldfish.” *girl usually acts confused and asks what I mean* “Oh, I thought we were talking about shit that doesn’t matter”. It never goes over too well. They usually say, “uhhh yeah, I gotta go.”
Then I tried changing my voice, since I’m unlucky enough to have a pretty high pitched voice. I try talking slowly and deeply, but I haven’t noticed any changes so far. And now, I’m at the last straw. I figure it must be cuz I don’t have a muscular body, so I work out at the gym 3 days a week.
I just don’t see how I should be so unlucky when it comes to females. Can someone more experienced please tell me what I’m doing wrong?
Just don’t tell me shit like, “you’re trying too hard, man.” I don’t believe in bullshit reasons like that.
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Some of it is confidence.
Some of it is style.
Some of it is shaving the mustache.
Though confidence and style varies on the girl, you should always shave the mustache. Every day if it comes to it.
Edit: okay i wanted to keep my post nice and cute, but man, don't use pick up lines, especially if they feel forced. Though (supposedly) they do work on some girls at some times, I think actually engaging in conversation and throwing questions where they can talk about themselves is usually better.
But you know, we might as well just wait for Rekrul to come in here with a single "LOL".
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I used to get turned down in the worst possible ways, like the girl walking (sometimes running) away from me after a few minutes of conversation, saying sorry I don’t want to talk anymore, to flat out “LEAVE ME ALONE”. Nowadays I usually get the “I have a boyfriend” line, which is an improvement I guess. I tried everything possible to try to counter it. I tried the “oh, yeah, does he treat you well?” *wait for response, usually ‘yes’* “Oh, *grin*, I wouldn’t…” But out of 20 tries, that line never worked, even though it produced a smile in 11 girls. Then I tried the goldfish line that I read about. “Oh, you have a boyfriend? Well I have a goldfish.” *girl usually acts confused and asks what I mean* “Oh, I thought we were talking about shit that doesn’t matter”. It never goes over too well. They usually say, “uhhh yeah, I gotta go.”
Then I tried changing my voice, since I’m unlucky enough to have a pretty high pitched voice. I try talking slowly and deeply, but I haven’t noticed any changes so far. And now, I’m at the last straw. I figure it must be cuz I don’t have a muscular body, so I work out at the gym 3 days a week.
I just don’t see how I should be so unlucky when it comes to females. Can someone more experienced please tell me what I’m doing wrong?
Just don’t tell me shit like, “you’re trying too hard, man.” I don’t believe in bullshit reasons like that.
when all else fails, just do something to make a lot of $$, that'll do the trick.
"you are HOW RICH? O BABY!" ;D
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I think it has been covered time and time again, that pick up lines simply don't work. They may once in a while, but it's probably due to the guy more than the line itself.
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The best pick up artists goes in to have fun, they don't have the intent of picking up girls on their mind when talking to strangers.
Lose that 'stash ya
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wait, ratethisasian.com? did I just fall for a satire blog?
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On January 09 2011 15:01 Kalingingsong wrote:
wait, ratethisasian.com? did I just fall for a satire blog?
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pretty much.
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What I recommend is find a place where you can see the same girls over and over. Always act yourself, girls act can easily tell if you act different and it's a big turn off. Keep working out, and just be in public a lot so you don't ever feel kinda akward and unsure of what to say.
Shave the mustache, and make sure you aren't just being too nice since lots of girls just find that creepy. Have a good sense of humor! That doesn't mean burst out laughing at anything she says, but you know, be able to tell a joke... Or laugh at hers (not a fake one)
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this guy is so trolling lol
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pretty much.
*shoots self.
k thanx
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The key to picking up women is to have big muscles. I doesn't just apply to women though, you can pick up any sorts of heavy objects if you have big muscles.
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1) shave
2) find a personality
3) don't concentrate on finding one
4) learn from male friends
5) MONEY
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Lose that stache and get a real one. Boes may come in here and give some advice.
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You have the gangsta look that might not work to your advantage all the time.
lose the stach.
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Assuming this isn't just a troll(which it probably is)
apart from shaving off that bum fluff from your top lip, being that guy who goes around asking literally every girl out gives you a bad reputation. Sounds like you need to chill out. Go to parties, and talk to girls there, dont open with "oh you're so beautiful we make babies yes?" or anything like that. just talk to them like...people. If you go to a party, have a few drinks (not to many) and talk to people, some of them girls, those girls will go away with a good impression of you. You can use that impression to get their msn/phone number, send them a text or msg them on facebook or msn, but dont be inssistant. just polite, and fun. Aim to make good friends with them instead of announcing your intentions before you even know their name.
However, seeing the ratethisasian, it probably is a troll, in which case, well played
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Date in your league. Go for the ugly girls. Lower your standards. That's what you're expecting from the chicks you're going for (presumably they're all hot).
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1) lose the stache
2) don't come across desperate
3) be cool about it, pretend like its not a big deal
4) have a cool talent, hobby. (which can be a great icebreaker or a way to gain attention
5) be funny
6) confidently be yourself, an extent of yourself that girls would find attractive 
7) Have good hygene
tip, if you can't seem to break the ice or introduce yourself without being awkward, bring along a wingman.
gl hf
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Date in your league. Go for the ugly girls. Lower your standards. That's what you're expecting from the chicks you're going for (presumably they're all hot).
go for girls that have a similar 'stash, that'll do the trick.
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What's your rank on iccup?
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On January 09 2011 15:05 elixir_gum wrote:
this guy is so trolling lol
wow that's what i first thought too 
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Teamliquid - We know everything about girls
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On January 09 2011 14:54 Jstor wrote:
Before you tell me to approach more, I approach like 10 chicks a day.
That's not normal...
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On January 09 2011 15:15 Gescom wrote:
What's your rank on iccup?
This. And have lots of money+shave
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Dude, honestly, just stop thinking about it. When it doesn't mean anything, when you have ZERO expectations, THAT'S when you get laid, and that's when you meet girls.
Don't use pickup lines. Ever. If it comes natural fine, but if you're using already concocted ones that weren't spur of the moment, don't try.
Find a skill and get good at it. I play drums and guitar and write. I don't advertise these facts to women. When we happen to be hanging out and I get a chance to play, I do it, and it impresses them. Both the playing, AND the fact that I wasn't up my own asshole about a particular skill set I have.
In the end it just sounds like your trying too hard. Relationships and trying work once you're in one. But before that, treat them like they don't particularly matter that much to you. Sad truth, women like being ignored to a degree, gotta play the game man.
Also...
To anyone who says, "Date in your league" I got some news for you, "Your league" is whatever you decide it is. Unless you have a tumor, roughly the size of a grapefruit and shaped like my great aunt Meredith, hanging off of your face, you get to decide what your league is by how you carry yourself.
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On January 09 2011 15:18 prototype. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 14:54 Jstor wrote:
Before you tell me to approach more, I approach like 10 chicks a day.
That's not normal...
Yeah, wtf.
Consider getting to know them first before harassing them by hitting on them.
Going to the mall for practice is such the wrong mentality for this.
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Don't hit on random girls. Talk to girls you know.
10 girls a day. LOL
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You're trying too hard, kid.
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Oh god the stache...
also grainy self shots.
Listen. If you're having chicks run away from you and say leave me alone, you're doing something very wrong, or you come from a completely different culture. The best way of getting a woman to think you're worth her time (not the fastest, or easiest, just the best) is to *be* worth her time. Changing your voice won't do that. Pandering to their interests for the sake of it won't do that. Getting ripped is... a start. Of course, it's only a start if you'd like to catch a girl or two who would go out with a guy for his muscles alone, which are usually the kind of girl who will lie to you about important things and cheat on you with the closet bodybuilder at the first opportunity.
It helps, but girls need a package, and I don't mean that in the innuendo way. Being fit helps, being handsome helps, having a bit of money helps. So does being genuine, which is a lot harder. So does being confident, knowing when to spend what money you have and what on, knowing how to take care of yourself- in a brawl, in the laundry, in the kitchen, in the supermarket. Being able to be honest in a diplomatic way, to enjoy the company of their *other* male friends- and girl friends for that matter, to be interested in what they are interested in, or at least give an interesting reason why you're not.
Having a little of all of these isn't like a job application, you don't write it down on a piece of paper and hand it to prospective dates. It's the fact that you do, genuinely, have those qualities that allow you to be genuinely confident that you are worth knowing, and probably getting to know better. False confidence quickly becomes arrogance or mild insanity. Genuine confidence, and the skills that are the reason you have it, carry you where you want to go when you want to go there.
Long story short, there is no easy way to women, no trick. a couple of million years of evolution and a couple of decades of social conditioning will ensure that even your average woman will see through tricks attempted by someone who hasn't had a decade or so's practice at it. Since I guess you didn't go to drama school, learn to be a con artist or grow up reading books on artful courtship, that means that you're gonna have to do it the hard way.
That is, don't look worth it, don't act worth it, BE worth it.
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haha this gave me lols.
here's a few things you have to take into consideration:
1.) if you approach a girl, especially a stranger, you have to realize that it's standard procedure for the girl to reject you provided she's not drunk. Think about it from her perspective: let's say she finds you cute. But if you guys are both strangers and she seems too willing to accept your advances, then she'll look easy. And it doesn't matter how loose-legged a girl is, no girl is going to allow herself to look easy (provided she's not drunk).
2.) But surely not all girls reject, right? There are cases where it works, and you want to know how you can get "lucky" as such. Well, given that the standard move for a girl is to reject, you need to represent an incentive she desires so strongly she disregards her inhibitions. And you need to have this incentive in ample supply.
K to summarize so far, point 1 states that standard play for a girl is to reject a stranger's advances. Point 2 states that for a girl to react positively to your advances, you need to have something she desires strong enough to reject the safety of standard play.
3.) But what is it that girls want? Well, the answer is easy cuz different girls want so many different things that, over time, you'll eventually find someone to want what you have. But if you're trying to specify what one specific girl wants, then you have to think about it much more strategically, and factor in several things like:
- age
- her social status
- her $$ status
Of course, we're just talking about strangers here so I listed features you can evaluate right off the bat. If you're trying to hit on someone you have a bit more information on, then you'd focus in things like her interests and her history, but you don't have that luxury of information with strangers.
Ok so let's make this quick. Start with age: If she's young, or looks young, it's more likely she cares about looks. If she's older, odds say she cares more about security. If she's socially insecure (you can tell this by what she's wearing and where she's wearing it) she wants someone she can latch on to lift her status. If she's socially secure, like a cool girl or whatever, she's probably more interested in talent and ability. $$$ is harder to judge because $$$ often influences social decisions as well. And finally, there's her looks.. but that's like most ambiguous aspect of them all. It's hard to estimate any sort of reaction based on what the girl looks like, so don't let looks sway into preconceived notions.
You also realize that a lot of this stuff is relative. Like, you might consider yourself to not be rich, but if you're richer than her friends, then maybe you are rich. And such.
4.) K so what do you do? What is your goal? Your goal is to use whatever skills you may have to communicate that YOU represent what that girl wants, and that you are worth the risk of foregoing standard play. Whatever mode of communication is up to you, though standard forms are humor or buying stuff.
So in short:
1. Girls reject cuz they pretty much have to reject.
2. The onus is on you to get her to reject standard play
3. Analyze what you think the girl wants and if it fits with what you have (remember to keep things relative)
4. Communicate to her that you represent what she wants
Most likely though, you'll still get rejected. This is where you'll need to make a decision: do you like this girl enough that you're willing to overcome this rejection and try again? Or were u just fucking around and hoping for some easy attention. If it's the latter just move on to another chick.
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I sense satire as well. And as a side not, his account is three days old and averages 19.something posts per day. Maybe these two things are related and we need to solve a mystery.
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Either a troll or completely hopeless.
Either way no point responding.
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your genetic code was never meant to be passed on.
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On January 09 2011 15:24 Blisse wrote:
Don't hit on random girls. Talk to girls you know.
Why not both?
I was hitting on a random girl while I waiting in line at the LCBO earlier today - got her number and email, chatted with her on msn for a bit, and now we're going out for breakfast in a few hours. Gonna take it from there, I guess.....
I'm definitely not the most "attractive" guy out there. I'm overweight and I haven't shaved in a couple of days (which is not a good look for me). But I've got a bit of charisma, and it was actually her idea to meet up sometime tomorrow.
I'm not looking for a GF at the moment (too busy and in the process of getting busier)..... It was just some casual flirting.....
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lol... run out of school supplies... go to the mall to practice.
You are trolling right ?
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Keep the stache. Remove about 2 inches on both ends. Learn German. = Get chicks.
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On January 09 2011 15:39 esla_sol wrote:
your genetic code was never meant to be passed on.
LOL
harshest reply I've ever seen
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this has to be a troll lol
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you’re trying too hard, man.
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"Hey baby, how bout' we take a walk to the food court and I show you how good I am at statistics."
troll imo
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1) Watch How I met your mother
2) Do as Barney Stinson does
-It won't work everytime. but at least it will be fun.
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yea the stash makes you look very serious =O
also got a picture of when you had glasses?
just remember, even if you're unlucky, at least you're quite experienced now! Now you know what not to do, or at least what not to do if you want really good chances of succeedin.
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I'm really inclined to believe that OP is a troll... having a username that is an online article repository and a post count of 69 don't help that one bit.
Anyhow, I'm an Asian guy who is 17 and hasn't been in a relationship or gotten laid. And yet despite my username of Loser--- that doesn't really reflect how I feel about myself.
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Lmao. Looking at a few of his posts it appears this guy is not new to the Starcraft scene - could be a PBU or an alt.
Regardless, the situation OP seems a little too plausible, if ridiculous.
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Stop trolling. Both IRL with girls and here.
Let's put this in forum terms.
If you contribute a genuinely interesting, exciting, funny, or informative post, it is more valuable than posting 10 one-line posts (or many-line useless posts) per day and wondering why no one wants to read them.
Same thing applies:
When you approach 10 girls, drooling incessantly, stroking your dirty sanchez and trying to walk all 'gangsta yo' (maybe that's not how you're doing it but you've had a worse success rate than that method'd get so you tell me), you will get absolutely nowhere. Females will run screaming. You will look like an absolute fool.
SO, what to do?
Don't try so god damn hard. I'm not even kidding. Just talk to girls without trying to pick them up. Before too long you'll have developed the interpersonal skills and feel that it takes to actually pick girls up by forging a genuine connection (or something that looks like a genuine connection), some common ground, something you both enjoy.
It's all about subtlety, you have absolutely none.
Never use a pickup line. VERY few people can pull them off. You are not one of these people.
Shave that fucking mustache.
I still think you're a troll.
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@Thereisnosaurus
wow, well said :D
Edit: Another thing I noticed. You have quite short hair, which also makes you look serious. Like, the confident/manly/serious time. While at the same time possibly intimidating. Longer hair (not like bangs, just 1-2 inches even) can make you look more relaxed. Idk though, try out a new hairstyle?
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On January 09 2011 15:54 Zeri wrote:
1) Watch How I met your mother
2) Do as Barney Stinson does
-It won't work everytime. but at least it will be fun.
This.
I'm pretty sure this a blog to lure baller(i know who you really are) to a trap.
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I'll be honest in the best way I can without hurting your feelings. Girls don't like your face and you're aiming too high. This is what multiple girls have told me (not that I'm ugly -_-, but that they wont even think of you if you're ugly.) You really can't change a thing man.. I'm sorry but just shoot a little lower.
Girls don't really even care about personality,pick up lines, and little gimmicks, they care about if you're hot or not.
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On January 09 2011 15:09 Tony Campolo wrote:
Date in your league. Go for the ugly girls. Lower your standards. That's what you're expecting from the chicks you're going for (presumably they're all hot).
There is no such thing.
Really irks me when people say stuff like this. Looks are a nice plus if you have them but they are only one aspect. Only way I could see there being any truth to this is if you have no looks + inept social skills + unattractive life. If your a medicore looking, awkward, guy who does nothing but play WoW for 14 hours a day, then yeah, you're going to have a tough time getting girls.
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On January 09 2011 15:32 d_so wrote:+ Show Spoiler +haha this gave me lols.
here's a few things you have to take into consideration:
1.) if you approach a girl, especially a stranger, you have to realize that it's standard procedure for the girl to reject you provided she's not drunk. Think about it from her perspective: let's say she finds you cute. But if you guys are both strangers and she seems too willing to accept your advances, then she'll look easy. And it doesn't matter how loose-legged a girl is, no girl is going to allow herself to look easy (provided she's not drunk).
2.) But surely not all girls reject, right? There are cases where it works, and you want to know how you can get "lucky" as such. Well, given that the standard move for a girl is to reject, you need to represent an incentive she desires so strongly she disregards her inhibitions. And you need to have this incentive in ample supply.
K to summarize so far, point 1 states that standard play for a girl is to reject a stranger's advances. Point 2 states that for a girl to react positively to your advances, you need to have something she desires strong enough to reject the safety of standard play.
3.) But what is it that girls want? Well, the answer is easy cuz different girls want so many different things that, over time, you'll eventually find someone to want what you have. But if you're trying to specify what one specific girl wants, then you have to think about it much more strategically, and factor in several things like:
- age
- her social status
- her $$ status
Of course, we're just talking about strangers here so I listed features you can evaluate right off the bat. If you're trying to hit on someone you have a bit more information on, then you'd focus in things like her interests and her history, but you don't have that luxury of information with strangers.
Ok so let's make this quick. Start with age: If she's young, or looks young, it's more likely she cares about looks. If she's older, odds say she cares more about security. If she's socially insecure (you can tell this by what she's wearing and where she's wearing it) she wants someone she can latch on to lift her status. If she's socially secure, like a cool girl or whatever, she's probably more interested in talent and ability. $$$ is harder to judge because $$$ often influences social decisions as well. And finally, there's her looks.. but that's like most ambiguous aspect of them all. It's hard to estimate any sort of reaction based on what the girl looks like, so don't let looks sway into preconceived notions.
You also realize that a lot of this stuff is relative. Like, you might consider yourself to not be rich, but if you're richer than her friends, then maybe you are rich. And such.
4.) K so what do you do? What is your goal? Your goal is to use whatever skills you may have to communicate that YOU represent what that girl wants, and that you are worth the risk of foregoing standard play. Whatever mode of communication is up to you, though standard forms are humor or buying stuff.
So in short:
1. Girls reject cuz they pretty much have to reject.
2. The onus is on you to get her to reject standard play
3. Analyze what you think the girl wants and if it fits with what you have (remember to keep things relative)
4. Communicate to her that you represent what she wants
Most likely though, you'll still get rejected. This is where you'll need to make a decision: do you like this girl enough that you're willing to overcome this rejection and try again? Or were u just fucking around and hoping for some easy attention. If it's the latter just move on to another chick.
Absolutely excellent post. So much of this I believe is true. Especially the parts about what the girl wants, and rejection. Agh so good, I just want to print this out and frame it on my wall!
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On January 09 2011 16:15 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 15:09 Tony Campolo wrote:
Date in your league. Go for the ugly girls. Lower your standards. That's what you're expecting from the chicks you're going for (presumably they're all hot). There is no such thing. Really irks me when people say stuff like this. Looks are a nice plus if you have them but they are only one aspect. Only way I could see there being any truth to this is if you have no looks + inept social skills + unattractive life. If your a medicore looking, awkward, guy who does nothing but play WoW for 14 hours a day, then yeah, you're going to have a tough time getting girls.
Look bro - I'm only being honest with him. I'm not going to give him the bullshit inspirational motivational speech about how looks don't matter only to have him be disappointed. The reason people like David DeAngelo say shit like looks doesn't matter is because he wants the ugly guys to buy his DVDs. Can you imagine if he advertised it as - hey, my cocky and funny method works, but only for good looking guys, it's a lot harder for ugly guys.
Without game, a guy can only date chicks that are 2 or more points below his level. Then with some game he can date chicks same or slightly below. Then with tight game he can date 1 or even 2 points up his level. So for this guy, until he has tight game, he's probably looking at 2's and 3's. He shouldn't be deluded. Even with tight game the best he can do is probably about 5's or 6's.
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This is definitely baller-bait.
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Hey bro, have you tried online dating? I'll help you out. Obviously you posted your photo on the internet for our perusal so I'll let you know if any of these chickydees reply and forward their e-mails on to you for your success.
![[image loading]](http://i53.tinypic.com/ip1frd.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i51.tinypic.com/e0pvk6.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i52.tinypic.com/spghgn.jpg)
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Oh man... I just realised I fell for it too... Didn't see the ratethisasian.com until I posted those pics...
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This definitely seems like a troll. Most people who think they're "average" looking wouldn't post their picture in the thread.
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On January 09 2011 16:44 Tony Campolo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 16:15 L_Master wrote:On January 09 2011 15:09 Tony Campolo wrote:
Date in your league. Go for the ugly girls. Lower your standards. That's what you're expecting from the chicks you're going for (presumably they're all hot). There is no such thing. Really irks me when people say stuff like this. Looks are a nice plus if you have them but they are only one aspect. Only way I could see there being any truth to this is if you have no looks + inept social skills + unattractive life. If your a medicore looking, awkward, guy who does nothing but play WoW for 14 hours a day, then yeah, you're going to have a tough time getting girls. Look bro - I'm only being honest with him. I'm not going to give him the bullshit inspirational motivational speech about how looks don't matter only to have him be disappointed. The reason people like David DeAngelo say shit like looks doesn't matter is because he wants the ugly guys to buy his DVDs. Can you imagine if he advertised it as - hey, my cocky and funny method works, but only for good looking guys, it's a lot harder for ugly guys. Without game, a guy can only date chicks that are 2 or more points below his level. Then with some game he can date chicks same or slightly below. Then with tight game he can date 1 or even 2 points up his level. So for this guy, until he has tight game, he's probably looking at 2's and 3's. He shouldn't be deluded. Even with tight game the best he can do is probably about 5's or 6's.
I should clarify myself a little. The reason I dislike that statement so much is because its a defeatist attitude. Not saying you should only talk to great looking girls, but if you go only for people who are "in your league" that's just dumb. What happens if you go talk to these great looking girls? Worst case scenario is that you get some sort of rejection. Oh noes! What am I to do now? And there is always the possibility she is going to be that one girl that is into you for whatever reason, so maybe you get ned up looking. In a situation where the worst case is a positive (time spent interact/socializing is almost certainly not a bad thing, and neither is rejection) and the best case scenario is a large positive why wouldn't you go for it.
Basically I just feel people should never worry about "league" from either side. You shouldn't only talk to great looking girls, but you also should by now means try and talk to them just because they are out of your "league". That idea just strikes me as absurd.
As far the the types of girls this guy can pull, what criteria are you using to place him at a 4? Attractiveness is about so much more than looks. Your personality, the lifestyle you lead, your social skills/game, and looks all play a role in how attractive you are.
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For the love of god, shave that freakin fuzzstache. That will boost your chances for success by 500%. And I think girls are finding it obvious that you are trying to play them. You gotta learn to have engaging conversations rather than how to hook a girl with a line, like really, who jokes to a girl about Abercrombie shit? Asking questions is always good, you're getting people to try and impress you with their answers, usually leads to good talk as long as you're thinking on your feet. And trying to get random girls off the street is pretty hard. If you can get 'regulars' who you see more often, you can more easily develop relationships that could one day blossom. And why the rush, getting into a woman's heart/pants isn't a race (seems a bit desperate -> girl repellant). Once you realize some patience, this will all become easier.
At least this quest is leading you to take better physical care of yourself.
Stop reading pickup books!
EDIT: If this is a troll post, congrats on making me laugh.
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Dear god lol, this blog just got epic.
I just might make this my homepage for a while.
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Dude, just remember:
Girls don't like boys, girls like cars and money.
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Tony Campolo, that's awesome! let us (POST IN THIS THREAD) know if anything happens with those offers.
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Some tips... Next time scratch out the ratetheasian stationary. Tony Compolo you are epic. I'm mostly just posting here so I have a point to begin reading this blog.
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Your standards are too high man. The girls at your school can probably read, you need to aim lower. And if you're trying to meet girls at the mall that probably means those girls have homes and families, and even though they can technically be illiterate, this isn't low enough. You need to dive deeper, I suggest homeless shelters.
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On January 09 2011 17:56 Zim23 wrote:
Your standards are too high man. The girls at your school can probably read, you need to aim lower. And if you're trying to meet girls at the mall that probably means those girls have homes and families, and even though they can technically be illiterate, this isn't low enough. You need to dive deeper, I suggest homeless shelters.
HAHA
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You sir are a creeper. If a random guy walked up to me and just started talking I would be all O_O
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I figure it must be cuz I don’t have a muscular body, so I work out at the gym 3 days a week.
Best thing you could do.
Honestly you can't find anyone, you gotta be a career driven man before anyone has a chance to fall for you.
Try to be better, working out is a start, studying harder in school is also nice. But, in short term, stay motivated by working out, you look chubby.
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Lol can't wait for the replies from that dating site hAhHA
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On January 09 2011 17:23 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:Dear god lol, this blog just got epic. I just might make this my homepage for a while.
NEED REPLY.
LOL THIS IS so WIN.
<3
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who needs girls anyway it takes time from starcraft
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Can't believe people are taking this seriously. lol
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On January 09 2011 15:25 jlim wrote:
You're trying too hard, kid.
Did you read the last sentence, kid?
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And to everyone telling me to lose the stash, you haven't even seen me before with my glasses and shaved. I looked like a 13 year old boy. I think the mustache at least conveys maturity (a good thing, right?)
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On January 09 2011 22:53 Jstor wrote:
And to everyone telling me to lose the stash, you haven't even seen me before with my glasses and shaved. I looked like a 13 year old boy. I think the mustache at least conveys maturity (a good thing, right?)
There are a bunch of other stuff about dating women, but let's focus on the looks right now, ok? Right now, you kind of have a thug-style look, that is NOT working, and it has been proven. So go with a different look. I really think you gotta lose the stash, and keep the glasses. Don't get some blue or red glasses, go for the classic all black style glasses. Those are in style right now, and a lot of people wear them. It works well on asian men especially. So, try that, and what was your rating ratetheasian.com?
P.S. I hope you aren't trolling
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1) Get rid of that stache. and no, 13 year old boy would probably have a better chance than the current look. That thing looks like a rabbit mustache, it kinda yells "HEY, i dont care about my physical appearance". The stigma behind thoses staches are generally negative. and agreed with the above poster, whats up with the thug look. Is that really who you are? no? then fuck it. Just be your REAL self. if the girl doesn't like it. fuck them, find one who appreciates your interests. its that simple. They dont neccisarily need to like it too, but just understand that you like it.
2) Changing your voice? fuck that, just talk naturally. Just be honest with yourself
3) Your aim seems to be really shallow, sorry. You're only 17 and you're freaking out cause you haven't gotten laid yet? does it really matter? You get a girlfriend for the relationship, not for booty calls.
4) Stop trying to randomly pick up a girl? Find a girl your interested in first, maybe a friend of a friend. Chill with both of them and slowly get to know her? again, they're not door prizes...
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At 17 its fine to not have a gf. Your desperate at 17 instead of being carefree or career goal orientated girls pick up on that even before you say anything.
Fix your appearance everyday to be exceptional i.e. shave, haircut, trendy clothes. i.e be ready in the way you would be for a date already.
Stop prowling for girls directly. Live your life normally, get fit, and make sure you look the best you can everyday and just be nice to every girl even what you call fat ones(cos even they can get fit and become models; I've seen it happen 3-4 times personally).
When you are open to have a girl as a friend rather then a lay they'll sense the difference.
Approaching 10 "chicks" a day at school is creepy. That is what you'd do at a bar, club, speed-dating night.
Figure out why you want a gf 1st then do things accordingly.
If you get ripped that's gonna get you laid with loose girls at some frat party cos thier drunk, but they are loose and could have std's and baggage. It'll never hurt to have muscles all women like ambercrombie models. Btw google ambercrombie model workout regime and do it for 2 years.
http://www.abercrombieworkout.com/
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On January 09 2011 22:48 Jstor wrote:Did you read the last sentence, kid?
You realize, that jlim is right... right?
From what I see, he's calling you a kid for two reason:
1. You blatantly admit you are 17. You are a kid.
2. Your post reeks of a naive view of girls in general. If not naive, ignorant at best.
These seem like sound reasons, if not harsh reasons, to do so.
Your reasons to be calling him a kid:
1. He called you a kid... I guess is why?
2. He disregarded your last sentence.
These seem like kiddish reasons to do so. Oh wait. I see what I did there.
His assumed reasons for saying you're trying too hard:
1. Your documented attempts in your original post.
2. Your claims of exhausting your school's "supply".
3. Your claims to approaching 10 girls a day.
Anyway, he could have given you some advice afterwards. Maybe he thought you were a troll. Many here do. Thereisnosaurus does not seem to think so though, and I will echo his advice. Read his post again. You're doing it wrong. You have exhausted your whole school's ... "supply". Ugh, what a way to put it. And what an accomplishment. You're doing it wrong and you're trying too hard.
I repeat: Thereisnosaurus has it right. Be genuine. Not only will it get you the girl, it'll get you a good one, perhaps even the right one. And shave the damn stache... TRUST US. GL HF!
And for the record, there IS a saurus. This one. The classy one.
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On January 10 2011 00:57 Adeeler wrote:At 17 its fine to not have a gf. Your desperate at 17 instead of being carefree or career goal orientated girls pick up on that even before you say anything. Fix your appearance everyday to be exceptional i.e. shave, haircut, trendy clothes. i.e be ready in the way you would be for a date already. Stop prowling for girls directly. Live your life normally, get fit, and make sure you look the best you can everyday and just be nice to every girl even what you call fat ones(cos even they can get fit and become models; I've seen it happen 3-4 times personally). When you are open to have a girl as a friend rather then a lay they'll sense the difference. Approaching 10 "chicks" a day at school is creepy. That is what you'd do at a bar, club, speed-dating night. Figure out why you want a gf 1st then do things accordingly. If you get ripped that's gonna get you laid with loose girls at some frat party cos thier drunk, but they are loose and could have std's and baggage. It'll never hurt to have muscles all women like ambercrombie models. Btw google ambercrombie model workout regime and do it for 2 years. http://www.abercrombieworkout.com/
thank you for this link, i'd been working out blindly on and off for quite some time. Never really knew how to do or what to do, this is exactly what i was looking for
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Sorry bro you just don't really look attractive D:
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You're thinking of women in the most superficial, dehumanizing way possible.
Solutions available to you: Get lots of money, go to a club where lights are confusing and people are drunk, or stop reading guides on how to get girls and develop some kind of interesting personality.
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lol stop reading pickup artist books first of all. each girl is different you cant just go up to random girls and start using lines that worked for a pickup artist. These people are "artists" for a reason they don't just use random lines they use the lines that will give them the best chances based on their read of the girl.
you have a better chance just being yourself and being friendly rather than going straight for the pickup
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 09 2011 15:26 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
Oh god the stache...
also grainy self shots.
Listen. If you're having chicks run away from you and say leave me alone, you're doing something very wrong, or you come from a completely different culture. The best way of getting a woman to think you're worth her time (not the fastest, or easiest, just the best) is to *be* worth her time. Changing your voice won't do that. Pandering to their interests for the sake of it won't do that. Getting ripped is... a start. Of course, it's only a start if you'd like to catch a girl or two who would go out with a guy for his muscles alone, which are usually the kind of girl who will lie to you about important things and cheat on you with the closet bodybuilder at the first opportunity.
It helps, but girls need a package, and I don't mean that in the innuendo way. Being fit helps, being handsome helps, having a bit of money helps. So does being genuine, which is a lot harder. So does being confident, knowing when to spend what money you have and what on, knowing how to take care of yourself- in a brawl, in the laundry, in the kitchen, in the supermarket. Being able to be honest in a diplomatic way, to enjoy the company of their *other* male friends- and girl friends for that matter, to be interested in what they are interested in, or at least give an interesting reason why you're not.
Having a little of all of these isn't like a job application, you don't write it down on a piece of paper and hand it to prospective dates. It's the fact that you do, genuinely, have those qualities that allow you to be genuinely confident that you are worth knowing, and probably getting to know better. False confidence quickly becomes arrogance or mild insanity. Genuine confidence, and the skills that are the reason you have it, carry you where you want to go when you want to go there.
Long story short, there is no easy way to women, no trick. a couple of million years of evolution and a couple of decades of social conditioning will ensure that even your average woman will see through tricks attempted by someone who hasn't had a decade or so's practice at it. Since I guess you didn't go to drama school, learn to be a con artist or grow up reading books on artful courtship, that means that you're gonna have to do it the hard way.
That is, don't look worth it, don't act worth it, BE worth it.
Thanks for the advice man. Especially the part about false confidence. I think that's my biggest problem. But I really don't see any other way to do it than be "fake" at first. I get good grades at school, play mad good violin, but that doesn't help me with confidence when it comes to girls. I guess I should learn to take more confidence in my skills, but you know, it's hard when I have so many insecurities.
I just feel like I deserve an attractive girl after putting in so much time and energy. Before this, I never got below a B+ and now I saw my first C. It's getting to the point where I feel just getting an average chick won't justify all the effort I put into it. I've taken economics and know that it isn't rational to take "sunk costs" into account, but I can't help it.
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On January 10 2011 02:19 Chef wrote:
You're thinking of women in the most superficial, dehumanizing way possible.
Solutions available to you: Get lots of money, go to a club where lights are confusing and people are drunk, or stop reading guides on how to get girls and develop some kind of interesting personality.
this, plus shave the stache and stop trying so hard. ive had friends who do the same thing... it's painfully obvious to women that they're not the first that have heard that line that week, and they probably not the last. if you rope em in with a gig, you have to keep up that gig to make them stay. be yourself, even if your self is a nerdy littleboy-ish looking asian. youll be much happier when you find someone who likes you for that
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On January 10 2011 01:57 Never.Die wrote:
Sorry bro you just don't really look attractive D:
Add in the fact he's probably infamous for approaching/creeping 10 girls a day at the local mall...
I suggest not trying to get random chicks, especially 17 year olds. I dont know what movies/tv shows affected your views on relationships, but normal high school girls do not go around trying to find a boyfriend. They are probably just hanging out with their friends, and even if they found you attractive, they would not say yes or flirt back with a stranger.
You should just be more socially active (in a healthy noncreepy way...), you're bound to find a girl that you actually like or a someone that share similarities with you. This coming from another 17 year old asian guy.
Bottom line: being extremely horny/desperate is not an attractive quality.
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On January 10 2011 02:39 Jstor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 09 2011 15:26 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
Oh god the stache...
also grainy self shots.
Listen. If you're having chicks run away from you and say leave me alone, you're doing something very wrong, or you come from a completely different culture. The best way of getting a woman to think you're worth her time (not the fastest, or easiest, just the best) is to *be* worth her time. Changing your voice won't do that. Pandering to their interests for the sake of it won't do that. Getting ripped is... a start. Of course, it's only a start if you'd like to catch a girl or two who would go out with a guy for his muscles alone, which are usually the kind of girl who will lie to you about important things and cheat on you with the closet bodybuilder at the first opportunity.
It helps, but girls need a package, and I don't mean that in the innuendo way. Being fit helps, being handsome helps, having a bit of money helps. So does being genuine, which is a lot harder. So does being confident, knowing when to spend what money you have and what on, knowing how to take care of yourself- in a brawl, in the laundry, in the kitchen, in the supermarket. Being able to be honest in a diplomatic way, to enjoy the company of their *other* male friends- and girl friends for that matter, to be interested in what they are interested in, or at least give an interesting reason why you're not.
Having a little of all of these isn't like a job application, you don't write it down on a piece of paper and hand it to prospective dates. It's the fact that you do, genuinely, have those qualities that allow you to be genuinely confident that you are worth knowing, and probably getting to know better. False confidence quickly becomes arrogance or mild insanity. Genuine confidence, and the skills that are the reason you have it, carry you where you want to go when you want to go there.
Long story short, there is no easy way to women, no trick. a couple of million years of evolution and a couple of decades of social conditioning will ensure that even your average woman will see through tricks attempted by someone who hasn't had a decade or so's practice at it. Since I guess you didn't go to drama school, learn to be a con artist or grow up reading books on artful courtship, that means that you're gonna have to do it the hard way.
That is, don't look worth it, don't act worth it, BE worth it. Thanks for the advice man. Especially the part about false confidence. I think that's my biggest problem. But I really don't see any other way to do it than be "fake" at first. I get good grades at school, play mad good violin, but that doesn't help me with confidence when it comes to girls. I guess I should learn to take more confidence in my skills, but you know, it's hard when I have so many insecurities. I just feel like I deserve an attractive girl after putting in so much time and energy. Before this, I never got below a B+ and now I saw my first C. It's getting to the point where I feel just getting an average chick won't justify all the effort I put into it. I've taken economics and know that it isn't rational to take "sunk costs" into account, but I can't help it.
LOL.
Well played.
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On January 10 2011 02:39 Jstor wrote:
I just feel like I deserve an attractive girl after putting in so much time and energy. Before this, I never got below a B+ and now I saw my first C. It's getting to the point where I feel just getting an average chick won't justify all the effort I put into it. I've taken economics and know that it isn't rational to take "sunk costs" into account, but I can't help it.
Oh you are gonna be severely disappointed that your effort means nothing. You "deserve" girls based on how attractive you are. Ever wonder why good looking guys don't need to try and get hot girls anyway?
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I think that the mall is the wrong place to get girls. I'd suggest houseparties with plenty of drunk girls.
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if you don't mind me asking, what state are you from? i feel like i know someone just like you from my old HS.
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Watch jersey shore. You'll learn so much.
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On January 10 2011 02:39 Jstor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 09 2011 15:26 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
Oh god the stache...
also grainy self shots.
Listen. If you're having chicks run away from you and say leave me alone, you're doing something very wrong, or you come from a completely different culture. The best way of getting a woman to think you're worth her time (not the fastest, or easiest, just the best) is to *be* worth her time. Changing your voice won't do that. Pandering to their interests for the sake of it won't do that. Getting ripped is... a start. Of course, it's only a start if you'd like to catch a girl or two who would go out with a guy for his muscles alone, which are usually the kind of girl who will lie to you about important things and cheat on you with the closet bodybuilder at the first opportunity.
It helps, but girls need a package, and I don't mean that in the innuendo way. Being fit helps, being handsome helps, having a bit of money helps. So does being genuine, which is a lot harder. So does being confident, knowing when to spend what money you have and what on, knowing how to take care of yourself- in a brawl, in the laundry, in the kitchen, in the supermarket. Being able to be honest in a diplomatic way, to enjoy the company of their *other* male friends- and girl friends for that matter, to be interested in what they are interested in, or at least give an interesting reason why you're not.
Having a little of all of these isn't like a job application, you don't write it down on a piece of paper and hand it to prospective dates. It's the fact that you do, genuinely, have those qualities that allow you to be genuinely confident that you are worth knowing, and probably getting to know better. False confidence quickly becomes arrogance or mild insanity. Genuine confidence, and the skills that are the reason you have it, carry you where you want to go when you want to go there.
Long story short, there is no easy way to women, no trick. a couple of million years of evolution and a couple of decades of social conditioning will ensure that even your average woman will see through tricks attempted by someone who hasn't had a decade or so's practice at it. Since I guess you didn't go to drama school, learn to be a con artist or grow up reading books on artful courtship, that means that you're gonna have to do it the hard way.
That is, don't look worth it, don't act worth it, BE worth it. Thanks for the advice man. Especially the part about false confidence. I think that's my biggest problem. But I really don't see any other way to do it than be "fake" at first. I get good grades at school, play mad good violin, but that doesn't help me with confidence when it comes to girls. I guess I should learn to take more confidence in my skills, but you know, it's hard when I have so many insecurities. I just feel like I deserve an attractive girl after putting in so much time and energy. Before this, I never got below a B+ and now I saw my first C. It's getting to the point where I feel just getting an average chick won't justify all the effort I put into it. I've taken economics and know that it isn't rational to take "sunk costs" into account, but I can't help it.
that's the ultimate fallacy.
It doesn't matter how hard you worked to produce a product, all that matters is whether if the customers like it.
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Whenever I talk to girls, I pretend to be Jack Sparrow. It works quite well. Actually, this applies to life in general...
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This thread is a disaster.
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