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On December 01 2010 03:18 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 03:08 OutlaW- wrote:
gratz man now mym posted this bullshit because of u
look
A : its not right, it was all luck based with gsl only putting him in a favorable ro64 starting position
B : its not right, gsl didnt do anything
C : its true, boxer did get some help in ahving easy opponents
D : its true, seeing as how he was good ni s2 they put him in a lot of tvts in s3
E : its true, they only let him play tvts because they rigged every match (and ofc they knew that tvt was his good match up..)
if they didnt rig it, u loko like an idiot
if they did rig it, u are an idiot for trying to kill e-sports in korea just to be a bit more known
how the hell did gsl know that hes good in tvts beforehand?
what if him good being at tvt is because he had to play so many and practice only them?
what if ur gonna create some scandal which isnt right and still hurts esports?
what if ur gonna create something big : arguments for kespa, hate from more koreans, etc. etc.
even if it was true i see no fucking reason to post it like an idiot, its a loss loss situations in both cases oh my god Do you think its mere coincidence that Moon and Boxer can meet in the RO8 like Boxer and Nada did last season? And that Moon has the easiest set of maps of any Zerg in the Ro32?
Ok but you're just picking some of the most popular players and following them. Since neither side will probably ever win this argument or convince the other (I'm not even arguing against you either, I just don't have enough information either way) somebody at least needs to do some stats on "map difficulty" for all of the players. I'm not saying you're wrong but the work should fall on those making the accusations to come up with more proof before making them. Yeah some players have had favorable map pools. But how common is that? I'm sure lots of players do. Almost every series will have maps which favor one player over the other. And unless somebody puts some real effort in to show that it's rigged, I'm going to remain on the non-conspiracy theory side. Again, somebody has to have the easiest map pool, just because it's him could easily still be coincidence! More proof is needed.
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Im sure Savior is the boss of the GSL
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This thread already has done it's damage and the OP irresponsibly made such thread without clearly thinking what kind of consequences this could bring. People are forgetting that TL.net is the nr. 1 English resource site for Starcraft content so obviously ANYTHING that gets posted here will be read by all major news sites.
An example would be like that Taiwan VJ and those pics and then it even gets into the news.
Now this thread has already made it into the Korean forums and on other major English E-sports sites.
People should be aware when making such threads. There should be some kind of rule about posting these kinds of threads/theories w/e u want to name them. Maybe to pm a mod/admin first whether or not these things should be posted because the OP doesn't have any substantial proof except speculation and theories about his claims.
Obviously you would think 1 opinion doesn't mean much but if u post it on a site like tl.net the majority of all SC esports fans will know about this and everyone related or into SC will too all because 1 person just made an accusation which no one can prove it is true or false.
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Frankly, I'd be much more concerned with map rigging than bracket rigging. Bracket rigging, yeah, that can be bad and all, but map rigging? Not only does that severely damage the integrity of esports, it damages the integrity of Blizzard and the integrity of the strategic value of this game.
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On December 01 2010 03:37 shannn wrote:
This thread already has done it's damage and the OP irresponsibly made such thread without clearly thinking what kind of consequences this could bring. People are forgetting that TL.net is the nr. 1 english resource site for Starcraft content so obviously ANYTHING that gets posted here will be read by all major news sites. An example would be like that Taiwan VJ and those pics and then it even gets into the news. Now with this thread already made it into the Korean forums and on other major English E-sports sites. People should be aware when making such threads. There should be some kind of rule about posting these kinds of threads/theories w/e u want to name them. Maybe to pm a mod/admin first whether or not these things should be posted because the OP doesn't have any substantial proof except speculation and theories about his claims.
Obviously you would think 1 opinion doesn't mean much but if u post it on a site like tl.net the majority of all SC esports fans will know about this and everyone related or into SC will too all because 1 person just made an accusation which no one can prove it is true or false.
I so fully agree, this is so bad.
The longer this goes on the more people will accept this as fact. IT IS NOT FACT.
Reasonable suspecion maybe, and I'm not gonna deny that I do think there could be something about it, but there is no way that I would accept this as fact just by what we know. As of now it is spreading to other sites so already people are seeing this as fact. This is really bad,
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On December 01 2010 03:41 Chibalicious wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 03:37 shannn wrote:
This thread already has done it's damage and the OP irresponsibly made such thread without clearly thinking what kind of consequences this could bring. People are forgetting that TL.net is the nr. 1 english resource site for Starcraft content so obviously ANYTHING that gets posted here will be read by all major news sites. An example would be like that Taiwan VJ and those pics and then it even gets into the news. Now with this thread already made it into the Korean forums and on other major English E-sports sites. People should be aware when making such threads. There should be some kind of rule about posting these kinds of threads/theories w/e u want to name them. Maybe to pm a mod/admin first whether or not these things should be posted because the OP doesn't have any substantial proof except speculation and theories about his claims.
Obviously you would think 1 opinion doesn't mean much but if u post it on a site like tl.net the majority of all SC esports fans will know about this and everyone related or into SC will too all because 1 person just made an accusation which no one can prove it is true or false. I so fully agree, this is so bad. The longer this goes on the more people will accept this as fact. IT IS NOT FACT. Reasonable suspecion maybe, and I'm not gonna deny that I do think there could be something about it, but there is no way that I would accept this as fact just by what we now. As of now it is spreading to other sites so already people are seeing this as fact. This is really bad,
This whole argument makes so little sense. It's not the OPs fault that starcraft news sites are posting something as fact when it is speculation. It's their fault.
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On December 01 2010 03:43 MementoMori wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 03:41 Chibalicious wrote:On December 01 2010 03:37 shannn wrote:
This thread already has done it's damage and the OP irresponsibly made such thread without clearly thinking what kind of consequences this could bring. People are forgetting that TL.net is the nr. 1 english resource site for Starcraft content so obviously ANYTHING that gets posted here will be read by all major news sites. An example would be like that Taiwan VJ and those pics and then it even gets into the news. Now with this thread already made it into the Korean forums and on other major English E-sports sites. People should be aware when making such threads. There should be some kind of rule about posting these kinds of threads/theories w/e u want to name them. Maybe to pm a mod/admin first whether or not these things should be posted because the OP doesn't have any substantial proof except speculation and theories about his claims.
Obviously you would think 1 opinion doesn't mean much but if u post it on a site like tl.net the majority of all SC esports fans will know about this and everyone related or into SC will too all because 1 person just made an accusation which no one can prove it is true or false. I so fully agree, this is so bad. The longer this goes on the more people will accept this as fact. IT IS NOT FACT. Reasonable suspecion maybe, and I'm not gonna deny that I do think there could be something about it, but there is no way that I would accept this as fact just by what we now. As of now it is spreading to other sites so already people are seeing this as fact. This is really bad, This whole argument makes so little sense. It's not the OPs fault that starcraft news sites are posting something as fact when it is speculation. It's their fault.
IMO TL mods should be responsible here, this kind of discussion based only on speculation can lead to some pretty bad stuff down the road. It starts a chain of missleading "facts" and will not cause growth to the SC2 scene.
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On December 01 2010 03:23 10fps wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 03:11 robertdinh wrote:On December 01 2010 03:08 OutlaW- wrote:
gratz man now mym posted this bullshit because of u
look
A : its not right, it was all luck based with gsl only putting him in a favorable ro64 starting position
B : its not right, gsl didnt do anything
C : its true, boxer did get some help in ahving easy opponents
D : its true, seeing as how he was good ni s2 they put him in a lot of tvts in s3
E : its true, they only let him play tvts because they rigged every match (and ofc they knew that tvt was his good match up..)
if they didnt rig it, u loko like an idiot
if they did rig it, u are an idiot for trying to kill e-sports in korea just to be a bit more known
how the hell did gsl know that hes good in tvts beforehand?
what if him good being at tvt is because he had to play so many and practice only them?
what if ur gonna create some scandal which isnt right and still hurts esports?
what if ur gonna create something big : arguments for kespa, hate from more koreans, etc. etc.
even if it was true i see no fucking reason to post it like an idiot, its a loss loss situations in both cases oh my god This mentality is problematic, how is it killing e-sports by demanding a high level of integrity to make the competition legitimate? The bigger problem is bringing up accusations that have no proof behind it and are just speculation. What the OP implied is now starting to create a snowball that can really damage the GSL and SC2 in Korea in general. It's very dangerous to bring up such claims without anything proving them. I don't agree with rigging but I do believe in "innocent until proven guilty" which doesn't really fit on the internet where the mentality of a lynch mob prevails more often than not. The OP has no ways of proving his claim but GOM TV is in the same boat. Implications are more than enough to create considerable damage to the reputation of the competition if enough people are willing to believe it. And TL is a place where people scream RIGGED after half of the matches anyway (just look the comment on Hyperdub vs MC) so naturally making a post like this is only adding fuel to the fire. The poster is either very irresponsible or willingly acted with malicious intent. The burden on proof isn't and shouldn't be on GOM TV...but that isn't going to help them.
Well everyone has a right to their opinion. The OP is obviously very opinionated about this but anyone that takes his opinion as fact is making their own mistakes. He isn't making it for them.
The way corruption is unraveled is through speculation, which turns into investigation, which either proves or disproves there is corruption.
Bringing up the fact that there may be a problem with the legitimacy of GSL brackets is healthy, it is better to be safe than sorry, are we just supposed to mindlessly stay quiet and accept that everything that happens in GSL is fair and has no ulterior motive?
Gom TV could easily prove their tournament is legitimate with transparency, we have asked for it since S1 began, and they have failed to deliver. This begs the question of why their process has to be so clouded in the first place if they are innocent?
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Damn we got no current drama... okay just make sth up and post it.. Great we have a 15 page debate about nothing....
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I actually ont care about 'rigging' of brackets - as long as the matches and map pool draw are completely legit, not too much is lost.
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I completely agree with your analysis.
GOM is pushing him through.
And I could not be happier.
I hope when Jaedong transfers, they give him the same consideration.
+ Show Spoiler +
My fantasy match:
Ro64: Jaedong vs. IdrA
(And I want the dong to utterly and emphatically thrash him.)
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I don't care about the bracket rig stuff either.. If a player is unknown and then beats someone they might not have faced they will get known after that rather than beating other unknowns... But.. map pool should be completely random.. (or even better have it where people can thumbs down maps like before.. only reason I can think of for taking that out is to rig it lol)
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On December 01 2010 03:46 robertdinh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 03:23 10fps wrote:On December 01 2010 03:11 robertdinh wrote:On December 01 2010 03:08 OutlaW- wrote:
gratz man now mym posted this bullshit because of u
look
A : its not right, it was all luck based with gsl only putting him in a favorable ro64 starting position
B : its not right, gsl didnt do anything
C : its true, boxer did get some help in ahving easy opponents
D : its true, seeing as how he was good ni s2 they put him in a lot of tvts in s3
E : its true, they only let him play tvts because they rigged every match (and ofc they knew that tvt was his good match up..)
if they didnt rig it, u loko like an idiot
if they did rig it, u are an idiot for trying to kill e-sports in korea just to be a bit more known
how the hell did gsl know that hes good in tvts beforehand?
what if him good being at tvt is because he had to play so many and practice only them?
what if ur gonna create some scandal which isnt right and still hurts esports?
what if ur gonna create something big : arguments for kespa, hate from more koreans, etc. etc.
even if it was true i see no fucking reason to post it like an idiot, its a loss loss situations in both cases oh my god This mentality is problematic, how is it killing e-sports by demanding a high level of integrity to make the competition legitimate? The bigger problem is bringing up accusations that have no proof behind it and are just speculation. What the OP implied is now starting to create a snowball that can really damage the GSL and SC2 in Korea in general. It's very dangerous to bring up such claims without anything proving them. I don't agree with rigging but I do believe in "innocent until proven guilty" which doesn't really fit on the internet where the mentality of a lynch mob prevails more often than not. The OP has no ways of proving his claim but GOM TV is in the same boat. Implications are more than enough to create considerable damage to the reputation of the competition if enough people are willing to believe it. And TL is a place where people scream RIGGED after half of the matches anyway (just look the comment on Hyperdub vs MC) so naturally making a post like this is only adding fuel to the fire. The poster is either very irresponsible or willingly acted with malicious intent. The burden on proof isn't and shouldn't be on GOM TV...but that isn't going to help them. Well everyone has a right to their opinion. The OP is obviously very opinionated about this but anyone that takes his opinion as fact is making their own mistakes. He isn't making it for them. The way corruption is unraveled is through speculation, which turns into investigation, which either proves or disproves there is corruption. Bringing up the fact that there may be a problem with the legitimacy of GSL brackets is healthy, it is better to be safe than sorry, are we just supposed to mindlessly stay quiet and accept that everything that happens in GSL is fair and has no ulterior motive? Gom TV could easily prove their tournament is legitimate with transparency, we have asked for it since S1 began, and they have failed to deliver. This begs the question of why their process has to be so clouded in the first place if they are innocent?
To an opinion, of course. But that doesn't absolve people of acting responsibly with those opinions. TL is very influential and unfortunately there are a lot of people who are either uninformed or will jump on the bandwagon just because they want some drama. That's not the way of going about things.
You used a real life example of how corruption is unraveled however it's not really applicable on the Internet where everyone can say anything and can go viral in an instant. The versions and "facts" will change as it spreads until all it has done is damage to the reputation of SC2, GSL and e-sports as a whole.
If something is rigged or corrupted then of course it has to be exposed and I'm all for it, but it shouldn't be done this way. And like always: the burden on proof is on someone making the claim, not the other way around.
Demanding transparency for future tournaments is one thing (and a good one) but accusing them of rigging past tournaments is a completely different ball game.
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I think everybody just needs to take a step back and realize that the OP basically contained: boxer played a few terrans. 7/9 of his matches were against terran which happened to be the most common race in season 2. If people are taking this extremely solid proof of rigging and posting it on other sites people really need to reevaluate what it takes for them to be convinced of something. It's not even remotely close to proof of anything.
Example: if you rolled a 3 on a 3 sided die 7/9 times, which isn't even a good analogy because there were more terrans than any other race, would you say that's proof it's rigged?
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On December 01 2010 04:02 10fps wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 03:46 robertdinh wrote:On December 01 2010 03:23 10fps wrote:On December 01 2010 03:11 robertdinh wrote:On December 01 2010 03:08 OutlaW- wrote:
gratz man now mym posted this bullshit because of u
look
A : its not right, it was all luck based with gsl only putting him in a favorable ro64 starting position
B : its not right, gsl didnt do anything
C : its true, boxer did get some help in ahving easy opponents
D : its true, seeing as how he was good ni s2 they put him in a lot of tvts in s3
E : its true, they only let him play tvts because they rigged every match (and ofc they knew that tvt was his good match up..)
if they didnt rig it, u loko like an idiot
if they did rig it, u are an idiot for trying to kill e-sports in korea just to be a bit more known
how the hell did gsl know that hes good in tvts beforehand?
what if him good being at tvt is because he had to play so many and practice only them?
what if ur gonna create some scandal which isnt right and still hurts esports?
what if ur gonna create something big : arguments for kespa, hate from more koreans, etc. etc.
even if it was true i see no fucking reason to post it like an idiot, its a loss loss situations in both cases oh my god This mentality is problematic, how is it killing e-sports by demanding a high level of integrity to make the competition legitimate? The bigger problem is bringing up accusations that have no proof behind it and are just speculation. What the OP implied is now starting to create a snowball that can really damage the GSL and SC2 in Korea in general. It's very dangerous to bring up such claims without anything proving them. I don't agree with rigging but I do believe in "innocent until proven guilty" which doesn't really fit on the internet where the mentality of a lynch mob prevails more often than not. The OP has no ways of proving his claim but GOM TV is in the same boat. Implications are more than enough to create considerable damage to the reputation of the competition if enough people are willing to believe it. And TL is a place where people scream RIGGED after half of the matches anyway (just look the comment on Hyperdub vs MC) so naturally making a post like this is only adding fuel to the fire. The poster is either very irresponsible or willingly acted with malicious intent. The burden on proof isn't and shouldn't be on GOM TV...but that isn't going to help them. Well everyone has a right to their opinion. The OP is obviously very opinionated about this but anyone that takes his opinion as fact is making their own mistakes. He isn't making it for them. The way corruption is unraveled is through speculation, which turns into investigation, which either proves or disproves there is corruption. Bringing up the fact that there may be a problem with the legitimacy of GSL brackets is healthy, it is better to be safe than sorry, are we just supposed to mindlessly stay quiet and accept that everything that happens in GSL is fair and has no ulterior motive? Gom TV could easily prove their tournament is legitimate with transparency, we have asked for it since S1 began, and they have failed to deliver. This begs the question of why their process has to be so clouded in the first place if they are innocent? To an opinion, of course. But that doesn't absolve people of acting responsibly with those opinions. TL is very influential and unfortunately there are a lot of people who are either uninformed or will jump on the bandwagon just because they want some drama. That's not the way of going about things. You used a real life example of how corruption is unraveled however it's not really applicable on the Internet where everyone can say anything and can go viral in an instant. The versions and "facts" will change as it spreads until all it has done is damage to the reputation of SC2, GSL and e-sports as a whole. If something is rigged or corrupted then of course it has to be exposed and I'm all for it, but it shouldn't be done this way. And like always: the burden on proof is on someone making the claim, not the other way around. Demanding transparency for future tournaments is one thing (and a good one) but accusing them of rigging past tournaments is a completely different ball game.
Ok well how about this, people have asked for transparency since the very first GSL. They have not delivered transparency, we can not force them to deliver transparency, so really the ball is in their court.
I think it is healthy to speculate that something fishy may be up, because we originally were just asking for transparency, giving them an honest chance to show that the tournament is legitimate and fair, yet they have not taken the opportunity to do so.
The behavior of GSL and the decisions they have made are obviously dictated by something other than just promoting esports in a fair, legitimate, and honest way.
And this ties back into why I think it was an awful idea to give blizzard any power whatsoever over the actual operation of esports tournaments..
Because there is a conflict of interest. Blizzard does not want to promote healthy sporting events, they want to do whatever it takes to increase their revenue, and they are going about it the same way that activision often does, just at a less accelerated pace.
Look at the call of duty franchise for example, you hype a game up, you release it, you make tons of money, and then it deflates, you've already made your money, and you are shortly going to release the next title in the series.
From a business perspective do you think blizzard cares if sc2 is still an e-sport in 5-10 years? They'll only care until all of the expansions are out, and then they will want their customers to play their newer games because that means more box sales and/or subscriptions.
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On December 01 2010 03:46 HeIios wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 03:43 MementoMori wrote:On December 01 2010 03:41 Chibalicious wrote:On December 01 2010 03:37 shannn wrote:
This thread already has done it's damage and the OP irresponsibly made such thread without clearly thinking what kind of consequences this could bring. People are forgetting that TL.net is the nr. 1 english resource site for Starcraft content so obviously ANYTHING that gets posted here will be read by all major news sites. An example would be like that Taiwan VJ and those pics and then it even gets into the news. Now with this thread already made it into the Korean forums and on other major English E-sports sites. People should be aware when making such threads. There should be some kind of rule about posting these kinds of threads/theories w/e u want to name them. Maybe to pm a mod/admin first whether or not these things should be posted because the OP doesn't have any substantial proof except speculation and theories about his claims.
Obviously you would think 1 opinion doesn't mean much but if u post it on a site like tl.net the majority of all SC esports fans will know about this and everyone related or into SC will too all because 1 person just made an accusation which no one can prove it is true or false. I so fully agree, this is so bad. The longer this goes on the more people will accept this as fact. IT IS NOT FACT. Reasonable suspecion maybe, and I'm not gonna deny that I do think there could be something about it, but there is no way that I would accept this as fact just by what we now. As of now it is spreading to other sites so already people are seeing this as fact. This is really bad, This whole argument makes so little sense. It's not the OPs fault that starcraft news sites are posting something as fact when it is speculation. It's their fault. IMO TL mods should be responsible here, this kind of discussion based only on speculation can lead to some pretty bad stuff down the road. It starts a chain of missleading "facts" and will not cause growth to the SC2 scene.
This is a forum on the internet, anyone who takes speculation from such a source as gospel is an idiot. Can't protect idiots from themselves.
The OP was well-within his rights to speculate as he did. If the topic was misplaced, or the OP was poorly done, then yeah, close the thread, but TL has no hard and fast rules about this, and I see nothing wrong with leaving this open.
Also: I don't like ANY kind of manipulation of a tournament brackets besides seeding from past results. If there are no seeds, then the bracket should have been randomly generated. Rigging a tournament undermines the whole process.
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I think we can asume the matchups are rigged to some degree. Otherwise they would have shown the bracket tree.
I would rather have a transparent organization but I don't know if that would be the best option for the sport or not.
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On December 01 2010 04:05 robertdinh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 04:02 10fps wrote:On December 01 2010 03:46 robertdinh wrote:On December 01 2010 03:23 10fps wrote:On December 01 2010 03:11 robertdinh wrote:On December 01 2010 03:08 OutlaW- wrote:
gratz man now mym posted this bullshit because of u
look
A : its not right, it was all luck based with gsl only putting him in a favorable ro64 starting position
B : its not right, gsl didnt do anything
C : its true, boxer did get some help in ahving easy opponents
D : its true, seeing as how he was good ni s2 they put him in a lot of tvts in s3
E : its true, they only let him play tvts because they rigged every match (and ofc they knew that tvt was his good match up..)
if they didnt rig it, u loko like an idiot
if they did rig it, u are an idiot for trying to kill e-sports in korea just to be a bit more known
how the hell did gsl know that hes good in tvts beforehand?
what if him good being at tvt is because he had to play so many and practice only them?
what if ur gonna create some scandal which isnt right and still hurts esports?
what if ur gonna create something big : arguments for kespa, hate from more koreans, etc. etc.
even if it was true i see no fucking reason to post it like an idiot, its a loss loss situations in both cases oh my god This mentality is problematic, how is it killing e-sports by demanding a high level of integrity to make the competition legitimate? The bigger problem is bringing up accusations that have no proof behind it and are just speculation. What the OP implied is now starting to create a snowball that can really damage the GSL and SC2 in Korea in general. It's very dangerous to bring up such claims without anything proving them. I don't agree with rigging but I do believe in "innocent until proven guilty" which doesn't really fit on the internet where the mentality of a lynch mob prevails more often than not. The OP has no ways of proving his claim but GOM TV is in the same boat. Implications are more than enough to create considerable damage to the reputation of the competition if enough people are willing to believe it. And TL is a place where people scream RIGGED after half of the matches anyway (just look the comment on Hyperdub vs MC) so naturally making a post like this is only adding fuel to the fire. The poster is either very irresponsible or willingly acted with malicious intent. The burden on proof isn't and shouldn't be on GOM TV...but that isn't going to help them. Well everyone has a right to their opinion. The OP is obviously very opinionated about this but anyone that takes his opinion as fact is making their own mistakes. He isn't making it for them. The way corruption is unraveled is through speculation, which turns into investigation, which either proves or disproves there is corruption. Bringing up the fact that there may be a problem with the legitimacy of GSL brackets is healthy, it is better to be safe than sorry, are we just supposed to mindlessly stay quiet and accept that everything that happens in GSL is fair and has no ulterior motive? Gom TV could easily prove their tournament is legitimate with transparency, we have asked for it since S1 began, and they have failed to deliver. This begs the question of why their process has to be so clouded in the first place if they are innocent? To an opinion, of course. But that doesn't absolve people of acting responsibly with those opinions. TL is very influential and unfortunately there are a lot of people who are either uninformed or will jump on the bandwagon just because they want some drama. That's not the way of going about things. You used a real life example of how corruption is unraveled however it's not really applicable on the Internet where everyone can say anything and can go viral in an instant. The versions and "facts" will change as it spreads until all it has done is damage to the reputation of SC2, GSL and e-sports as a whole. If something is rigged or corrupted then of course it has to be exposed and I'm all for it, but it shouldn't be done this way. And like always: the burden on proof is on someone making the claim, not the other way around. Demanding transparency for future tournaments is one thing (and a good one) but accusing them of rigging past tournaments is a completely different ball game. Ok well how about this, people have asked for transparency since the very first GSL. They have not delivered transparency, we can not force them to deliver transparency, so really the ball is in their court. I think it is healthy to speculate that something fishy may be up, because we originally were just asking for transparency, giving them an honest chance to show that the tournament is legitimate and fair, yet they have not taken the opportunity to do so. The behavior of GSL and the decisions they have made are obviously dictated by something other than just promoting esports in a fair, legitimate, and honest way.
Um. Accusing someone of rigging and fixing a tournament just because they haven't complied to your demands doesn't make the ball in their court. It doesn't change the burden of proof thing because you are still the one making the claim.
It just seems vindictive and petty. "They haven't given us full transparency so they must be rigging the tournament. So we shall make everyone know this!" Uh-oh.
Eh, you edited
And this ties back into why I think it was an awful idea to give blizzard any power whatsoever over the actual operation of esports tournaments..
Because there is a conflict of interest. Blizzard does not want to promote healthy sporting events, they want to do whatever it takes to increase their revenue, and they are going about it the same way that activision often does, just at a less accelerated pace.
Look at the call of duty franchise for example, you hype a game up, you release it, you make tons of money, and then it deflates, you've already made your money, and you are shortly going to release the next title in the series.
From a business perspective do you think blizzard cares if sc2 is still an e-sport in 5-10 years? They'll only care until all of the expansions are out, and then they will want their customers to play their newer games because that means more box sales and/or subscriptions.
I'm not anti or pro Blizzard so I'm just waiting to see how things go from here. I won't make any speculation because we still haven't seen how Blizzard treats e-sport that is completely in their control. (they treated other ones crappy) So far so good.
Blizzard will keep SC2 afloat at least until both expansions are up (some 3 years or so) and if by then the game can't support itself as an e-sport than it shouldn't deserve to survive anyway.
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I think the extreme amount of Terrans is the answer.
Don't think they would rigg a huge tournament like the GSL.
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I don't know... boxer faced Sangho early in the tournament, no one with a brain make Boxer vs Sangho that early.
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