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ZergPowerrr
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On March 25 2008 03:43 NonY[rC] wrote: Hotkey modifying is considered illegal in online play because it is illegal in LAN. Whether people say it's hacking or equivalent to hacking is irrelevant. It still remains true that it's cheating and is illegal. Whatever other games do is irrelevant to BW's rules. It is illegal in LAN because it's only allowed to modify config files. Since bw is old, it doesn't have this facility and blizzard is too lazy to change anything... (see above discussion). Many things are irrelevant right? But the affirmation doesn't hold just because you say so. You have to bring some tougher arguments. You didn't say why it's cheating. You're just saying that ONLY in bw, such a feature is cheating, while in other games it is not. It just doesn't make sense... On March 25 2008 03:43 NonY[rC] wrote: There is no outcry for modifying hotkeys among professionals or fans. Besides, it is likely that everyone would use the same obvious setup and there would be no change in competitive play except everything would be a little easier to do. Despite what you said, many pros still use modified hotkeys in one way or another. Every second counts in high level games, it can be the difference between victory or defeat. On March 25 2008 03:43 NonY[rC] wrote: There are no professional BW players who use the German version of the game. Boxer did not change hotkeys; he only physically removed useless keys from his keyboard. You can't deny that! I'm too tired to find that piece of news where german players came with their own versions of the game at wcg, but if you're so insistent, I'll do it. Do you really know exactly about the way boxer configured his keyboard? Nah, I don't think he swapped O with Q for instant siege mode... On March 25 2008 03:43 NonY[rC] wrote: Yes you can get away with modifying your hotkeys if that's all you ever play is online competitions. But online-only players get minimal respect and minimal prize money so it's not worth much. I play bw for fun only. It's much more confortable to play with modified hotkeys. | ||
ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On March 25 2008 04:18 ZergPowerrr wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 25 2008 03:43 NonY[rC] wrote: Hotkey modifying is considered illegal in online play because it is illegal in LAN. Whether people say it's hacking or equivalent to hacking is irrelevant. It still remains true that it's cheating and is illegal. Whatever other games do is irrelevant to BW's rules. It is illegal in LAN because it's only allowed to modify config files. Since bw is old, it doesn't have this facility and blizzard is too lazy to change anything... (see above discussion). Many things are irrelevant right? But the affirmation doesn't hold just because you say so. You have to bring some tougher arguments. You didn't say why it's cheating. You're just saying that ONLY in bw, such a feature is cheating, while in other games it is not. It just doesn't make sense... On March 25 2008 03:43 NonY[rC] wrote: There is no outcry for modifying hotkeys among professionals or fans. Besides, it is likely that everyone would use the same obvious setup and there would be no change in competitive play except everything would be a little easier to do. Despite what you said, many pros still use modified hotkeys in one way or another. Every second counts in high level games, it can be the difference between victory or defeat. On March 25 2008 03:43 NonY[rC] wrote: There are no professional BW players who use the German version of the game. Boxer did not change hotkeys; he only physically removed useless keys from his keyboard. You can't deny that! I'm too tired to find that piece of news where german players came with their own versions of the game at wcg, but if you're so insistent, I'll do it. Do you really know exactly about the way boxer configured his keyboard? Nah, I don't think he swapped O with Q for instant siege mode... On March 25 2008 03:43 NonY[rC] wrote: Yes you can get away with modifying your hotkeys if that's all you ever play is online competitions. But online-only players get minimal respect and minimal prize money so it's not worth much. I play bw for fun only. It's much more confortable to play with modified hotkeys. German players at WCG are a far, far cry from Korean pros. Whenever the word "pro" is used in relation to BW, it's assumed to mean Korean progamers, not high level foreigners. | ||
Puosu
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NonY
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Again, no professional BW players use modified hotkeys. You might be referring to professional players of other games and if that's the case, then I repeat that what other games do is irrelevant. Each game must decide its own set of rules. There cannot be a set of rules that governs every game. WCG is an amateur event. I don't understand why you're telling me what you personally do. If you're the only person you care about, and you're a casual player, then what do you care about the rules of competitions? If you're not the only person you care about, then why do you bother saying what you personally do? If you're only doing it for your own comfort, why do you care that competitive players disprove of it? You will forever have the disapproval of the competitive BW community. | ||
ZergPowerrr
20 Posts
Why do I care? I can't understand why are you asking this...This is supposed to be a forum, and we're supposed to talk. Why do you care about sport news or celebrity news? Though you're still watching them. | ||
jimminy_kriket
Canada5466 Posts
Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 @ 1.66ghz ATI Mobility Radeon x1600 w/ 256mb 2GB Ocz and Crucial 533mhz DDR2 Ram 100gb 7200Rpm Hard Drive 320gb External Maxtor Hard Drive A4Tech x-750 laser mouse GosuGamers Qpad CT Mousepad ~4100 in 3dmark 05 ~2300 in 3dmark 06 [edit] liosama wins this thread. | ||
Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On March 25 2008 04:18 ZergPowerrr wrote: many pros still use modified hotkeys in one way or another. Every second counts in high level games, it can be the difference between victory or defeat. On March 25 2008 05:15 ZergPowerrr wrote: I'm relatively new to bw as I quitted playing war3. haha, I like how you tell NonY what counts in high level games. You know that you are discussing with one of the top foreign protosses? And credits to nony for manners. When I read the first long reply by zergpowerrr i was sure there would a page or two of flame and drama. Such disappointment... Anyways, this is why NonY didnt win the asshole thread. Ontopic I consider hotkey modifications cheating. It is not built in the game, and any extra help should not be allowed, unless both players agree otherwise. | ||
ZergPowerrr
20 Posts
I didn't say I'm new to RTS. I played some high level war3 matches before. Ever heard of netiquette? Well, stop teasing me now! | ||
Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
I hate being left handed most of the time. As for a mouse, it's impossible to find a left handed mouse, so I just go with an ambidextrous one. Right now I'm using a razer copperhead, and an eMachines keyboard. I also need a huuuuuuge mousepad to play. Mine is about the size of when you hold two pieces of paper together. | ||
Hollow
Canada2173 Posts
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Jack Lupino
Netherlands17 Posts
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
My friend playing with one hand and about 40 apm made it to the final round by mass battlecruisers every game, until the Koreans smashed his face into the ground. That made me feel a little better, but not really. Somebody should tell those chobos that FFA isn't a real game mode, and to get Brood War for chissakes. oh yes, and my mouse and mousepad Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0. I had an old one from my friend's Alienware (he bough a G5) and I liked it so much I bought another. It's very fine accuracy and fits comfortably into my admittedly big hands. The best part about it is the stiffness of the scroll wheel. Usually I find them too loose, and using it to change weapons doesn't work because i always scroll too much. This one I know exactly how many clicks I'm getting. And while I'm at it, I use the Steelpad G5. This pad is lovely! it's smooth as ice, but when I depress gently, it grips the mouse harder and I can use it for minute accuracy. It's also gigantic. That suited me better in my Counter-Strike days when the wide berth meant I could do a 360 degree turn without lifting my mouse. For Starcraft, the size is a little bit unnecessary, since I use hotkeys and the minimap to go distances instead of mouse scrolling. | ||
IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
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liosama
Australia843 Posts
in game though, one screen has a picture of the map layout of the map im currently playing im the best, i have the best computer out of all TL and whenever girls come to my room they like me cause of my 3 monitors which are flat CRT, oh yeah | ||
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