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SleepingDrone
Profile Joined December 2002
United States24 Posts
January 02 2003 09:05 GMT
#1
Recently, while I was chatting, Cyrax informed me that he plays with a track ball mouse (One of those mice with a ball on the top that you roll with your thumb). This totally shocked me, considering Cyrax's micro has pissed me off more than once, and I have no idea how the hell you can control a damn thing with a track ball. He even listens to music too, which i have found is screwing me up more than it is helping.

Someone at WCG, can't remember who, changed the keyboard configuration, so when you hit the skey, a "b" was typed, when you hit the zkey, an "p" was typed etc. That way, he could build pylons without having to reach across the keyboard. Most of the builing hotkeys were on the left side of the keyboard, and unit building was in the middle or something.

After those two, I was curious if anyone else had any kooky setup when they play Starcraft. The only odd thing I can think if is that I prefer that tiny ball-mouse that comes with the computer as opposed to an optical mouse.
I can pass V another and you cant
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28804 Posts
January 02 2003 09:10 GMT
#2
I listen to music and my speed depends on the speed of the music.

if im listening to something relaxed im more likely to try some fancy strats and shit and if im listening to something speedy then im more likely to just try to outmacro my opponent and click a whole lot and be really fast (compared to what's normal for me anyway.. )

also I think not playing with sound on for 2 years made me a much better player as I constantly watch the minimap.
oh, and I usually have my feet vertically and im not really sitting on my chair, instead I prefer to just lie down combining my chair with a couch/my computer.
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Spirit-Rapide-
Profile Joined November 2002
Norway152 Posts
January 02 2003 09:43 GMT
#3
SleepingDrone, can you find out how he did it ? changing the hotkeys..
uT)CyrAx
Profile Joined October 2002
United States282 Posts
January 02 2003 09:45 GMT
#4
i'm also interested in seeing how you can rebind hotkeys in starcraft.

btw sleepingdrone, you forgot to mention my trackball is optical O_O!

in a huge guide for players that i'm writing when i retire, i include pros and cons of everything.
-.,- ~cyraxle
Totti
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany60 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-01-02 09:59:40
January 02 2003 09:58 GMT
#5
Even I dont know any software that can allow key mapping for DX , there must be one. The ladder speed stuff is a lot harder to do
Dont argue with idiots... they will brin down to their level and beat you with a lot of experience
Liquid`Crystal
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada398 Posts
January 02 2003 10:06 GMT
#6
I use an optical mouse and a standard cheap keyboard ($10)

I always play with music, never without. I hate starcraft music/sounds:p

andy rocks
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
January 02 2003 10:42 GMT
#7
I play with my keyboard on the desk and there's a pullout drawer right under the desk where keyboard sits that my mouse is on. So basically when I play my right hand is above my left hand. I had to switch that up for wcg tho.
why so 진지해?
Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
January 02 2003 10:52 GMT
#8
http://fingertipsoft.com/3dkbd/index.html

Lets you remap letter keys.
The pretty things are going to hell, they wore it out but they wore it well
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
January 02 2003 11:38 GMT
#9
actually, i believe binding ur keys is considered cheating. Since in all tourny rules, you have to use the standard setup. I dont think they even let you bind shit to ur mouse, even though i do. I use ctrl for the back left, and shift for the back right. I find that quite useful. But changing keys on the keyboard, i would assume with high degree of certainty, that it's considered cheating. Since you can't do it at wcg, or any other tournament. Why use it and then have to switch back once the game is "for real" and it actually means something, its not good to change shit --a
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
uT)CyrAx
Profile Joined October 2002
United States282 Posts
January 02 2003 12:27 GMT
#10
hm interesting lumberjack

sleepingdrone you sure u saw someone do that at wcg? was it legit? did they allow it? i WOULD think it to be cheating, so it makes me have second thoughts about rebinding my shit, since it'll be pointless if i go to a tournament.

it WOULD be so useful.
-.,- ~cyraxle
Liquid.Venice
Profile Joined November 2002
United States916 Posts
January 02 2003 13:13 GMT
#11
rekrul how u play is how i used to play, and it made playing at wcg really hard for me.

BTW drone what u said about listening to music and the speed of the music is the exact same for me ;P
ancient)Ds
Profile Joined November 2002
33 Posts
January 02 2003 14:17 GMT
#12
it would help so much especially because the protoss hotkeys are rediculously tedious to use. my left hand is tired from flying around the keyboard after my games between p b and arrow keys its quite nuts
Some manner in a hurry.
Misca
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands605 Posts
January 02 2003 14:55 GMT
#13
I have seen so many CounterStrike players rebind there keys @ tourneys, of course this in done.

What about left handed players ? The dont use the default a,w,s,d for moving, but they use the arrow keys and the enter to reload instead of the default 'r', just because its much easier.

Seems logical to me they allow this in tourneys, even for StarCraft.
Jamers
Profile Joined October 2002
Israel1327 Posts
January 02 2003 15:02 GMT
#14
I have a keyboard drawer like rekrul's, except it has fallen off of the desk, so I keep it on my knees, and I have a chair with 3 phone books stacked to keep my mouse at the same height. Ghetto? =]. At least I didn't have to have it on the left side like naz :O
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
January 02 2003 15:06 GMT
#15
ahahahaha jamers nice
why so 진지해?
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
January 02 2003 15:07 GMT
#16
Hafe-Life:Counterstrike is COMPLETEY DIFFERENT from bw in every aspect of gaming, as fifa soccer is different from mario, and duke nukem 3d s from warcraft 3. For CS they have "config files" such as autoexec.cfg and config.cfg. Both save your settngs for whatever keys that u have. CS is completely customizable and its ALL up to the user for whatever command they want. Just about every single aspect in the game of cs is changeable and quite legal. For bw, they have a standard to make it "equal". It makes it more like chess that way, inthat both players really have an equal chance of winning. You dont have things like FPS, clmdupdate, v_sync, blah blah. "rate", whatever. With bw all we can adjust legally is the latency, and other various small things like sounds. There are no config files for bw, and any changes that you make with binding keys aren't very transferable. Since you'd have to dl that program at wcg/any tourny and CHANGE their settings, of which most dont even have internet. You can always save it to a disk (which is what cs players do with config files), but cs files are legal and binding keys aren't. So it would take quite a bit of work just to get the same setup. For me, i was just lucky that they had the same mouse drivers for my mouse on their comps at both wcg's. I remember dudey having to beg the organizer to let him install his drivers for his mouse, and he finally let him do it with like the final 8 or something ;\. So i'd stray away from this stuff, inthat its not healthy, moral, or compatable, but then again hacks are compatable with tournies and alot of people use them ;\.
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
FrEaK[S.sIR]
Profile Joined October 2002
2373 Posts
January 02 2003 15:08 GMT
#17
the rebinding of keys in counterstrike has to do with it being a game feature. Thats not the case in BW.
Arctic
Profile Joined December 2002
United States34 Posts
January 02 2003 15:09 GMT
#18
I'm left handed, but I use the basic right handed set up. In fact, I use the same set up as Rekrul : Keyboard on desk, mouse on pullout drawer. If I have both on top the desk is too crowded, if I have both on bottom I can't find my keys.

Do I listen to music? Hell yeah. Joe Satriani, Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment, basically music that has super fast guitarists playing their hearts out.

Of course, that hasn't helped me
I suck worse then a cheap obese geriatric whore in Japan
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
January 02 2003 15:09 GMT
#19
Haha Jamers, nice. Misca Counter-Strike the game itself allows you to change keys as you please so I think they intended to allow you to do that so in Tournaments it's fine but Starcraft is much different seeing as how much of the game is building using the keyboard and mouse opposed to Counter-Strike where they are used for motions to compare them is just idiotic, and left handed players can have left handed mice and their own keyboards and such.
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
January 02 2003 16:16 GMT
#20
anything that'll give you the competitive edge that your opponent does not have "standard" should be illegal.
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