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BLinD-RawR
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Singularity
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
On July 19 2018 17:09 Singularity wrote: Why isn't flash playing in this tournament? Have I missed something? he was in china the day before the qualifiers and couldn't make it. | ||
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KameZerg
Sweden1767 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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RainWhisper
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
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Burned Toast
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Singularity
Sweden142 Posts
On July 19 2018 17:13 BLinD-RawR wrote: he was in china the day before the qualifiers and couldn't make it. I see  Kinda sucks since I love see him playing, but it's a very stacked tournament anyhow so it's not the end of the world. | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2608 Posts
LETS GO ALPHAGO GO | ||
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itsdaniel
Austria334 Posts
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GTR
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Durnuu
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FlaShFTW
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mishimaBeef
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RAPiDCasting
Korea (South)594 Posts
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FlaShFTW
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NoS-Craig
Australia3122 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On July 19 2018 19:07 GTR wrote: winner picks map? what kind of nutjob came up with that rule? heard you liked 3-0's | ||
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Burned Toast
Canada2040 Posts
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Ej_
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FlaShFTW
United States10232 Posts
On July 19 2018 19:32 Ej_ wrote: I'm willing to bet that the winner pick of next map was, because Blizzard realized how long a full bo5 would take yeah I'm assuming it's a quick bandaid solution to the fact that they know BO5 is going to take forever. I wish if they wanted series they'd just do bo3 loser picks. bleah. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
On July 19 2018 19:32 Ej_ wrote: I'm willing to bet that the winner pick of next map was, because Blizzard realized how long a full bo5 would take its just dumb is what it is. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10232 Posts
I'd agree with this sentiment. | ||
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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
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FlaShFTW
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Skeny
Australia121 Posts
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FlaShFTW
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NoS-Craig
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FlaShFTW
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
Poll: Recommend Last vs Mini Game 1? If you have time (4) No (3) Yes (0) 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Last vs Mini Game 1? | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
On July 19 2018 19:59 nojok wrote: I'm not sure what went wrong for last this game, I thought he had enough goliaths at some point but he did a lot of weird half engagements which heavily favours the carreers, what prevented him from fully commiting? BlueStorm. | ||
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Croatia9517 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
Are those hills that hard to cross? I'm only a spectator when it comes to BW but this map does not seem as bad as some maps with more cliffs. | ||
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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
On July 19 2018 20:05 nojok wrote: Are those hills that hard to cross? I'm only a spectator when it comes to BW but this map does not seem as bad as some maps with more cliffs. Reinforcing your army is a huge pain, takes up a lot of your attention. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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GTR
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mishimaBeef
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4028 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3122 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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BLinD-RawR
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On July 19 2018 20:29 mishimaBeef wrote: ramp vortex bug? its a known thing, now I have to find that famous bisu gif. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/My5zmrk.gif) | ||
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Cryoc
Germany909 Posts
On July 19 2018 19:58 FlaShFTW wrote: Someone explain to me why Last delayed his +2 so long? We all know how important +2 is against Carriers. :/ he would've had that game. Getting +2 attack costs 425 gas which is a lot if you have only 2 gas and want to do a timing push. Last lost when he couldn't take out even 1 base with his push. Carrier armies are more cost efficient when Terran, so Protoss doesn't need more money than T once the transition is done. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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GTR
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angrypofke
Lithuania174 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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Kleinmuuhg
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aaand its gone | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3122 Posts
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NoS-Craig
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repomaniak
Poland324 Posts
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On July 19 2018 21:26 repomaniak wrote: KSL rain scarab https://clips.twitch.tv/SuspiciousCaringVampireHeyGirl i can watch it all day long :D | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3122 Posts
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United States2142 Posts
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NoS-Craig
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
On July 19 2018 20:28 GTR wrote: lol freakling pls fix maps On July 19 2018 20:29 BLinD-RawR wrote: oh god last got ramp vortex'd On July 19 2018 20:29 mishimaBeef wrote: ramp vortex bug? On July 19 2018 20:29 mishimaBeef wrote: ramp vortex bug? On FS I presume? Well, told you so. But as I said the problem is not to actually fix old maps (although that would take quite a bit of time investment and prioritization) but to actually convince tournament hosts (most of all Blizzard, Afreeca) that it's something worth their attention. If no one is going to use updated map versions, it's just a complete waste of time to do it in the first place. Maybe I'll make an update of FS or CB, as kind of a technical demonstration, at some point. But I am only willing to spend all the time doing any larger scale update projects if I get an actual request from some one who is actually willing to use the maps beforehand. | ||
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repomaniak
Poland324 Posts
KSL dark tastosis KSL Rain interview KSL grill interview Mini | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
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thezanursic
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
On July 19 2018 22:04 Freakling wrote: Should have just killed those 6 units and moved on with it… eh game was pretty much over by then | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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RowdierBob
Australia13292 Posts
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Ty2
United States1434 Posts
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Motivate
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oxKnu
1239 Posts
On July 19 2018 23:10 Motivate wrote: Feels like no one can TvP besides Flash Flash is a great Protoss player so maybe that's an explanation to it. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17731 Posts
I personally always wanted to see bw do something like what ssbm does where loser picks next map. Also having a winner's and loser's bracket where loser's side has to win two bo5s during finals would be cool. Think it would bring a nice variety and change to everything. | ||
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onlystar
United States971 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
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onlystar
United States971 Posts
but not today and mind is great thesedays in his best shape in years | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
On July 20 2018 01:05 onlystar wrote: they are amateurs honestly to NOT fix the vortex ramp bug even when the bug was shown CLEARLY before on BlueStorm in qualifiers There are at least two of them on Blue Storm (on ramps, there might be more), three if you include Ultra vortices. | ||
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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onlystar
United States971 Posts
On July 20 2018 02:48 KamMoye wrote: Mong is great TvP but worse than last and mind | ||
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
 Movie vs Rain on the other hand was fun. I didn't think that Movie would actually match Rain for so long every single game and even took the lead at times, but Rain as someone said is too damn good at eking out small advantages or bringing himself back into the game. Regardless, that BS game was great! On July 20 2018 01:07 Dante08 wrote: Is there a Terran other than Flash who is good at TvP now? From what I see every other Terran gets rolled by Snow, Mini and Rain. To be fair, Rain is one of the best macro tosses right now. Snow is abusive as hell with reavers which are the bane of many terrans and he also seems to know how to play the matchup extremely well. Mini is an anomaly and has his own unique style that even Flash has problems with him though to be fair, Mini played crazy well today surviving Last's attack without losing a single carrier (Last should've pushed much harder when he had the chance and kill stuff) and just pushed him to the limit (that pull into the main with the reaver then pushed the natural when he had a single tank sieged). | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
On July 20 2018 07:53 BigFan wrote: Dang, Mini made Last look like a second tier terran Movie vs Rain on the other hand was fun. I didn't think that Movie would actually match Rain for so long every single game and even took the lead at times, but Rain as someone said is too damn good at eking out small advantages or bringing himself back into the game. Regardless, that BS game was great! To be fair, Rain is one of the best macro tosses right now. Snow is abusive as hell with reavers which are the bane of many terrans and he also seems to know how to play the matchup extremely well. Mini is an anomaly and has his own unique style that even Flash has problems with him though to be fair, Mini played crazy well today surviving Last's attack without losing a single carrier (Last should've pushed much harder when he had the chance and kill stuff) and just pushed him to the limit (that pull into the main with the reaver then pushed the natural when he had a single tank sieged). That's what I'm saying, imo Last played well but never good enough to take the second game. Flash would have pushed much harder and get his 3rd gas faster to produce more goliaths. Mini was never in danger as long as he held his 3rd. Doesn't matter how many interceptors you kill, as long as Protoss doesn't lose a base or Carriers it's very easy to come back with 8 carriers, especially on blue storm. And the third game Mini made Last look like a C+ Terran. | ||
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unoriginal_usernam3
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That game was hilarious, kept spitting out my food. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 20 2018 10:35 Dante08 wrote: That's what I'm saying, imo Last played well but never good enough to take the second game. Flash would have pushed much harder and get his 3rd gas faster to produce more goliaths. Mini was never in danger as long as he held his 3rd. Doesn't matter how many interceptors you kill, as long as Protoss doesn't lose a base or Carriers it's very easy to come back with 8 carriers, especially on blue storm. And the third game Mini made Last look like a C+ Terran. ya, at one point, Last was in a commanding lead and his goliath count increased too, but he never got to that third. I don't understand why either. Maybe he didn't think he could commit just yet and worried he'll lose all his tanks once the goliaths were picked off? | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
On July 20 2018 02:48 KamMoye wrote: Mong is great TvP I'm pretty sure Mong gets 3-0ed every time by Snow, Rain and Mini. Hopefully Mind can show some sort of resistance. | ||
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FredStan
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Immaterial
Canada510 Posts
On July 20 2018 23:30 FredStan wrote: Are there any VODs on Youtube, or is it just twitch? Wondering the same, I can’t find the VODs in YouTube. Checking twitch I guess | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
And since KSL is a Blizzard event it will only be on Twitch, could be wrong, sad if I am right because Twitch VODs aren't exactly the best... | ||
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Glueburn
United States496 Posts
On July 20 2018 07:53 BigFan wrote: Movie vs Rain on the other hand was fun. I didn't think that Movie would actually match Rain for so long every single game and even took the lead at times, As someone who has repeatedly discount Movie as a good protoss, I've been pleasantly surprised by how well he has performed in this tournament. His games against Larva were great, and though I can't tell if larva just seems like he is not in best form or not, I feel like Movie has been a fantastic player to watch as of late. Sure, on paper he lost pretty hard to Rain, but it was less of a complete stomp that I thought it would be. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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oxKnu
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ShAd_1337
Germany1042 Posts
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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
On July 21 2018 20:16 ShAd_1337 wrote: these bo5's are not fun to watch so early Fully agree, best of five in groups a mistake as far as I'm concerned. | ||
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TonDan
65 Posts
On July 20 2018 07:53 BigFan wrote: Dang, Mini made Last look like a second tier terran Movie vs Rain on the other hand was fun. I didn't think that Movie would actually match Rain for so long every single game and even took the lead at times, but Rain as someone said is too damn good at eking out small advantages or bringing himself back into the game. Regardless, that BS game was great! To be fair, Rain is one of the best macro tosses right now. Snow is abusive as hell with reavers which are the bane of many terrans and he also seems to know how to play the matchup extremely well. Mini is an anomaly and has his own unique style that even Flash has problems with him though to be fair, Mini played crazy well today surviving Last's attack without losing a single carrier (Last should've pushed much harder when he had the chance and kill stuff) and just pushed him to the limit (that pull into the main with the reaver then pushed the natural when he had a single tank sieged). I don't know why people call Last the second best Terran. From his games I just don't see any spark that would suggest an aptitude for Terran play beyond the level of second tier pro gamers. From his FPVods I can see that he uses his mouse waaaayyy too much it almost seems like he's playing with only the mouse. Sharp on the other hand, holy crap, that TvT vs Sea shows a great ability to adapt and a very robust style. Never paid much attention to him but he looks fantastic. Right now he seems like the second best Terran to me. And Mini, yes, oh my god, this guy is fking scary PvT and PvZ. | ||
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Miragee
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On July 22 2018 03:29 xccam wrote: Fully agree, best of five in groups a mistake as far as I'm concerned. I like this fresh air in the tournament format, I don`t see why it could be a mistake. | ||
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
On July 23 2018 15:29 Malongo wrote: I like this fresh air in the tournament format, I don`t see why it could be a mistake. At first I thought "Bah! They're following the SC2 tournament model of oversaturating games, lowering the average quality of each match and cheapening the whole tournament." But now I've changed my attitude to "More BW matches! Fuck yeah!" | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On July 23 2018 16:15 reincremate wrote: At first I thought "Bah! They're following the SC2 tournament model of oversaturating games, lowering the average quality of each match and cheapening the whole tournament." But now I've changed my attitude to "More BW matches! Fuck yeah!" It is not just more matches. If anything, having only one serie each day allows players to prepare for one matchup. | ||
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