EPT[SWL] Hwaseung OZ vs Samsung Khan - Page 36
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PiePie
United States248 Posts
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jiabung
United States720 Posts
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blipster8
United States71 Posts
On February 20 2010 16:22 SuperArc wrote: he was mining enough to squeeze out a few zealots and JD just needs to spam scourges with all the gas he has Stork doesn't need a shuttle. He can build one reaver and walk it across the map. Or just build a scout, depending on whether his obs sees spores among the sunkens. | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On February 20 2010 16:27 SuperArc wrote: If JD had gone for a draw he wouldnt have wasted his units trying to kill off Stork. He would have saved them in OLs, spam scourges to have air dominance and kill any reavers that come to kill the sunkens. If Stork moves his army to defend the reaver, kill the probes. Match Point with its narrow chokes makes static defense damn strong. But Jaedong is not the sort of player who goes for a draw. Nononono. Stork could still slowly push his way into jaedong's base with a reaver quite easily. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On February 20 2010 16:36 asdfTT123 wrote: Stork can have this win. JD will have his Platinum mouse at the end of this year, Diamond mouse at the end of 2011, and the Unobtainium mouse at the end of 2012. If you lift your head from worshiping JD fanatically for one second, you might just be able to enjoy a great game of Starcraft you just saw. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On February 20 2010 16:36 asdfTT123 wrote: Stork can have this win. JD will have his Platinum mouse at the end of this year, Diamond mouse at the end of 2011, and the Unobtainium mouse at the end of 2012. LOl unobtainium mouse | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
Yeah but that's a HUGE mistake. Especially since the observer showed he had scourge patrolling at 6 o'clock but nothing at all at 12 o'clock, lol. To me leaving an expo unscouted on a 2 player map is a noob mistake that someone like me makes (many times in fact  ) | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
That was when Jaedong still had shitload of units and minerals left. He would have played the game way differently if his objective was a draw not try to win. He wasted too many units 1a2a3aing into storm/archons. | ||
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PiePie
United States248 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On February 20 2010 16:43 PiePie wrote: JD FANBOYS. please... stop... making.. excuses... for...why...he...lost... What is this, I don't even. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
Why didnt Jaedong go for a draw? He had enough static defense Sunkens are damn strong against archons which was practically the only thing Stork had left. and I dont think Stork had the tech/money to get reaver/shuttle he was mining enough to squeeze out a few zealots and JD just needs to spam scourges with all the gas he has Doesn't look like that's not even close to what you were saying. Regardless, you are wrong. JD did not have a lot of units after killing 12 o clock. Stork had enough to control the center, which means he could keep mining at 12 o clock while JD was about to run out. Let's not say stupid stuff like this and just try to enjoy an amazing, amazing game we just watched. Damnit I have this habit of replying to dumb/completely wrong posts in LR threads. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
I really hope people don't continue this thread trying to critique the mistakes of the players. Sure, as obs, we can sometimes see things a little better, but this was honestly an epic clash between two of the best SC players ever. Respect that and stop trying to be an armchair general. Both players played brilliantly. JD did not 1a2a3a. He was constantly moving forces and constantly trying to outflank Stork. While Stork was constantly repositioning his forces to make JD have to come up a ramp or funnel through a choke to get to him. Both players were just amazing. JD couldn't just go straight for a drop on Stork's main. He needed to isolate Stork's main army in the north before he could go for that, or else he'd risk losing all control of the mid, which is NOT worth taking out Stork's main, especially when the drop itself is a gamble rather than something for sure. Mad respect to both players. SO happy to see Stork take this one home. I was really worried for him when he lost his main army and JD was pressing up on 12. But gotdamn... Stork really knows how to take the long view on things. He made JD pay BAD for that 12 expo and scraped his shit together to have another 6-7 archon army roaming around. Just insane. | ||
snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On February 20 2010 16:41 SuperArc wrote: What I mean is could JD have gone for a draw after he killed 12 o'clock? That was when Jaedong still had shitload of units and minerals left. He would have played the game way differently if his objective was a draw not try to win. He wasted too many units 1a2a3aing into storm/archons. And if he still has a "shitload of units and minerals left", why the hell is he going to aim for the draw when he still has a fair chance of winning? What kind of logic is this? Might as well play for the draw two minutes into the game. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On February 20 2010 16:44 OneOther wrote: Doesn't look like that's not even close to what you were saying. Regardless, you are wrong. JD did not have a lot of units after killing 12 o clock. Stork had enough to control the center, which means he could keep mining at 12 o clock while JD was about to run out. Let's not say stupid stuff like this and just try to enjoy an amazing, amazing game we just watched. Damnit I have this habit of replying to dumb/completely posts in LR threads. Fine, lets wait for the VOD. I am pretty sure JD still had many units left. | ||
BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On February 20 2010 16:46 SuperArc wrote: Fine, lets wait for the VOD. I am pretty sure JD still had many units left. He had many units left, but he didn't have enough units to engage stork's army. from there, stork could of easily gotten a slow reaver, protect it really really well, and proceed to roll jaedong over with that. and stork had enough minerals at 12 to last him for a long time. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On February 20 2010 16:46 SuperArc wrote: Fine, lets wait for the VOD. I am pretty sure JD still had many units left. No, let's not. Even if JD had "many units left," that doesn't matter because he did not have enough to kill Stork's zealot/archon/HT army. Thus, JD cannot simply sit in his base while Stork continues to mine at 12 o'clock and producing more units. The 12 o'clock had a lot of minerals left. | ||
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asdfTT123
United States989 Posts
On February 20 2010 16:38 Slow Motion wrote: If you lift your head from worshiping JD fanatically for one second, you might just be able to enjoy a great game of Starcraft you just saw. Did I say I didn't enjoy this game, fool? If you read my comment earlier, I said I was honored to have been able to watch this game...it was incredible SC. Obviously I was making a joke...I hope you know Unobtanium doesn't exist. -_- | ||
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Redshirt
434 Posts
On February 20 2010 16:46 SuperArc wrote: Fine, lets wait for the VOD. I am pretty sure JD still had many units left. It literally doesn't matter when Jaedong has only 50 minerals left and Stork has ~3k. Stork can spam zealots or templar units and Jaedong can't do shit about it. Not to mention Stork's army still had an insane amount of high templars. | ||
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jiabung
United States720 Posts
On February 20 2010 16:43 PiePie wrote: JD FANBOYS. please... stop... making.. excuses... for...why...he...lost... please shut up already about fanboy bias. I don't see anybody making excuses for why he lost, but people talking about about what JD could have done differently. Even that guy who is saying JD could have gone for a draw (which I think is bullshit) isn't saying stork didn't deserve his win or anything, nor is he making any excuses. | ||
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