• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:31
CEST 20:31
KST 03:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 239ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 What is your PC setup in 2026 for SCBW/SC2 ? Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6838 users

[SWL] Hwaseung OZ vs Samsung Khan - Page 37

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 42 Next All
TealLurker
Profile Joined June 2008
United States791 Posts
February 20 2010 07:50 GMT
#721
I'm just going to comment on the Recommended Games section since I wasn't able to watch these games live. What is the point of having "recommended games" if all the games are listed and then (in this case) games 1 and 4 say "don't"? It seriously defeats the purpose of the section. Just list the games that are really recommended.

Predictions and Results are self-explanatory; those are the TC's predictions and the outcome of the match itself. However, Recommended Games lists every game when in fact they aren't all recommended.
abascus
Profile Joined December 2009
United States23 Posts
February 20 2010 07:51 GMT
#722
abascus' 5 word sum:: THE REASON I WATCH STARCRAFT
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 07:52:23
February 20 2010 07:52 GMT
#723
Hey! Are you the same abascus that translated some streams for awhile?
And is your name a play off abacus?
Jaedong
PiePie
Profile Joined February 2010
United States248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 07:54:41
February 20 2010 07:52 GMT
#724
On February 20 2010 16:50 jiabung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 16:43 PiePie wrote:
JD FANBOYS. please... stop... making.. excuses... for...why...he...lost...


please shut up already about fanboy bias. I don't see anybody making excuses for why he lost, but people talking about about what JD could have done differently. Even that guy who is saying JD could have gone for a draw (which I think is bullshit) isn't saying stork didn't deserve his win or anything, nor is he making any excuses.


if JD could done stuff differently, so could have stork. If you make a hypothetical game where stork did the same and rearrange JD's choices, then someone could just as easily and legitly say oh then Stork could have done this... or he coulda done this.
We are observers so we see both sides with 2 crazy commentators.
RFG- Raging Flash Fangirl
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 07:54:14
February 20 2010 07:53 GMT
#725
On February 20 2010 16:50 TealLurker wrote:
I'm just going to comment on the Recommended Games section since I wasn't able to watch these games live. What is the point of having "recommended games" if all the games are listed and then (in this case) games 1 and 4 say "don't"? It seriously defeats the purpose of the section. Just list the games that are really recommended.

Predictions and Results are self-explanatory; those are the TC's predictions and the outcome of the match itself. However, Recommended Games lists every game when in fact they aren't all recommended.

the reason why every game has a recommended section is because by putting these only for the games that are worth watching I'm going to spoil the results.
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 07:54:38
February 20 2010 07:54 GMT
#726
On February 20 2010 16:52 PiePie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 16:50 jiabung wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:43 PiePie wrote:
JD FANBOYS. please... stop... making.. excuses... for...why...he...lost...


please shut up already about fanboy bias. I don't see anybody making excuses for why he lost, but people talking about about what JD could have done differently. Even that guy who is saying JD could have gone for a draw (which I think is bullshit) isn't saying stork didn't deserve his win or anything, nor is he making any excuses.


if JD could done stuff differently, so could have stork. If you make a hypothetical game where stork did the same and rearrange JD's choices, then someone could easily say oh then Stork could have done this... or he coulda done this
We are observers so we see both sides with 2 crazy commentators.

But you didn't show that those things are excuses.
Jaedong
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
February 20 2010 07:54 GMT
#727
On February 20 2010 16:51 abascus wrote:
abascus' 5 word sum:: THE REASON I WATCH STARCRAFT


I thought your 5 words were holy shit shit shit shit.

but yea, amazing game, had me glued to the screen that I forgot about Musiccore lol.
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 20 2010 07:55 GMT
#728
well it's pretty retarded when someone claims that JD could have gotten a draw but instead chose to lose because he's a man, right?
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 20 2010 07:56 GMT
#729
Okay, good point. I'm not arguing anything this time. It was pretty clear what happened. I am opposed to PiePie, though.
Jaedong
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
February 20 2010 07:56 GMT
#730
On February 20 2010 16:55 OneOther wrote:
well it's pretty retarded when someone claims that JD could have gotten a draw but instead chose to lose because he's a man, right?


When did I say JD chose to lose?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
February 20 2010 07:59 GMT
#731
On February 20 2010 16:27 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 16:24 OneOther wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:24 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:23 OneOther wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:22 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:21 MuffinDude wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:20 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:19 l10f wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:19 SuperArc wrote:
Why didnt Jaedong go for a draw?

He had enough static defense


You don't understand how weak sunkens are, and stork can just make 1 reaver 1 shuttle GG


Sunkens are damn strong against archons which was practically the only thing Stork had left.

and I dont think Stork had the tech/money to get reaver/shuttle

Dude, yes he did, he still was mining.


he was mining enough to squeeze out a few zealots and JD just needs to spam scourges with all the gas he has

just stop.
there were enough minerals left to make like 4+ reavers.


cuz scarabs are so cheap? uh huh

Pretty sure JD could have gone for a draw, it just didnt cross his mind.

so what you do is you make one reaver and kill all the sunkens. did you not see how much minerals were left at the base?


If JD had gone for a draw he wouldnt have wasted his units trying to kill off Stork. He would have saved them in OLs, spam scourges to have air dominance and kill any reavers that come to kill the sunkens. If Stork moves his army to defend the reaver, kill the probes. Match Point with its narrow chokes makes static defense damn strong.

But Jaedong is not the sort of player who goes for a draw.


StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 20 2010 08:00 GMT
#732
On February 20 2010 16:56 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 16:55 OneOther wrote:
well it's pretty retarded when someone claims that JD could have gotten a draw but instead chose to lose because he's a man, right?


When did I say JD chose to lose?


Haha it's more like you claimed JD "risked" a loss because he's a beastly man who settles for nothing less than living on the edge and taking it to his meager opponent in each and every SC match! (Afterwards he eats keyboards seasoned with nerd blood as a light snack.)
GrayArea
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States872 Posts
February 20 2010 08:00 GMT
#733
Just posting here again because this game was so epic! Damn there were so many storms omg. And after stork lost his gates in his main and rebuilt them and made a bunch of zlots, JD reacted perfectly by plaguing all the zlots and then getting lurkers to kill them all. But stork was so beast and this game was so epic damn omg this game.

I can't stop thinking about how epic this game was guys, I need to share my feelings omg GUYS WATCH THIS GAME ITS SO COOOL!!!!!!!!
Kang Min Fighting!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 08:01:27
February 20 2010 08:00 GMT
#734
On February 20 2010 16:59 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 16:27 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:24 OneOther wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:24 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:23 OneOther wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:22 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:21 MuffinDude wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:20 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:19 l10f wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:19 SuperArc wrote:
Why didnt Jaedong go for a draw?

He had enough static defense


You don't understand how weak sunkens are, and stork can just make 1 reaver 1 shuttle GG


Sunkens are damn strong against archons which was practically the only thing Stork had left.

and I dont think Stork had the tech/money to get reaver/shuttle

Dude, yes he did, he still was mining.


he was mining enough to squeeze out a few zealots and JD just needs to spam scourges with all the gas he has

just stop.
there were enough minerals left to make like 4+ reavers.


cuz scarabs are so cheap? uh huh

Pretty sure JD could have gone for a draw, it just didnt cross his mind.

so what you do is you make one reaver and kill all the sunkens. did you not see how much minerals were left at the base?


If JD had gone for a draw he wouldnt have wasted his units trying to kill off Stork. He would have saved them in OLs, spam scourges to have air dominance and kill any reavers that come to kill the sunkens. If Stork moves his army to defend the reaver, kill the probes. Match Point with its narrow chokes makes static defense damn strong.

But Jaedong is not the sort of player who goes for a draw.




Yeah, Jaedong is the sort of player who tries anything to WIN.

On February 20 2010 17:00 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 16:56 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:55 OneOther wrote:
well it's pretty retarded when someone claims that JD could have gotten a draw but instead chose to lose because he's a man, right?


When did I say JD chose to lose?


Haha it's more like you claimed JD "risked" a loss because he's a beastly man who settles for nothing less than living on the edge and taking it to his meager opponent in each and every SC match! (Afterwards he eats keyboards seasoned with nerd blood as a light snack.)


In fact I do claim that. :p
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Redshirt
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
434 Posts
February 20 2010 08:01 GMT
#735
On February 20 2010 16:56 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 16:55 OneOther wrote:
well it's pretty retarded when someone claims that JD could have gotten a draw but instead chose to lose because he's a man, right?


When did I say JD chose to lose?


You hinted it in your post suggesting that Jaedong could have gone for a draw but didn't because ~ a humble God ~ doesn't do so.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 20 2010 08:01 GMT
#736
SuperArc :o
Just let it go man. Please.
Sometimes the best move is to admit you were wrong and move on.
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 08:03:55
February 20 2010 08:02 GMT
#737
LOL ultra ling is the worst thing to hold for draw when they get stormed behind the lines easily. Unless he have enough minerals to mass sunk and mass lurkerling i dont see a draw, JD needed to attack there. Not to mention stork will rebuild his nexus on top and use reavers if jd want to play flash camper style.

This map perfectly gives p>z and t>p advantage in split map conditions. The DT block under the swarm at 12 was key, jd didnt realise it after some time only after he lost alot of units to cannon & storm at the choke. So he overpaid destroying 12.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 20 2010 08:05 GMT
#738
Fun facts:

JD lost twice to Stork in WCG before he started his ZvP 15 game winstreak.

Stork was not among any of the wins JD had during his streak.

Stork ended JD's ZvP 15 game winstreak.

JD is on a 4 game losing streak to Stork :D.

And people say that Stork's PvZ is bad :D:D
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
February 20 2010 08:06 GMT
#739
On February 20 2010 17:01 OneOther wrote:
SuperArc :o
Just let it go man. Please.
Sometimes the best move is to admit you were wrong and move on.

Problem is, I don't think he knows that hes wrong.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 20 2010 08:07 GMT
#740
On February 20 2010 17:06 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 17:01 OneOther wrote:
SuperArc :o
Just let it go man. Please.
Sometimes the best move is to admit you were wrong and move on.

Problem is, I don't think he knows that hes wrong.

He does, he keeps changing his "arguments" because he knows he's wrong haha. Oh well
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 42 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
16:00
Ro4 M2
Bonyth vs Hawk
Airneanach96
LiquipediaDiscussion
Showmatch
15:00
Shopify Rebellion Sunday #7
SHIN vs MaxPaxLIVE!
Harstem899
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 899
SpeCial 231
BRAT_OK 118
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 19559
Calm 2986
Mini 709
Jaedong 630
ggaemo 216
Soulkey 121
firebathero 91
Mong 75
Free 31
scan(afreeca) 28
[ Show more ]
zelot 18
yabsab 17
Purpose 15
Hm[arnc] 11
Noble 7
Dota 2
qojqva3807
XaKoH 755
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m2092
minikerr30
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu386
MindelVK12
Other Games
Grubby3039
B2W.Neo1409
Liquid`RaSZi1343
Beastyqt731
ArmadaUGS157
Chillindude7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick5769
BasetradeTV247
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3348
Other Games
• imaqtpie1119
• Shiphtur341
Upcoming Events
OSC
5h 29m
GSL
16h 29m
Monday Night Weeklies
21h 29m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 16h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.