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Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
February 22 2010 12:24 GMT
#821
On February 22 2010 15:54 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2010 11:37 Caos2 wrote:
IMHO the Dong played a good macro game but he lost almost every single battle.
Not impressed with his play at all.

why can't people appreciate such a great instead of trying to find bad things about it? yes players make mistakes, they are humans. i just don't get it haha. personally i cover up whatever could have been better in hindsight and enjoy how well they played


It was a good game, an epic game indeed but a great game? Jaedong played sub-par (when compared to his usual I'll-tear-your-limbs-apart self) while Stork did exactly what he had to do.

In comparison + Show Spoiler +
Flash's victories against Fantasy, Best and Bisu
made me almost drool. The winner single handedly destroyed the opponents with ingenious play, even which a clear BO disadvantage in the mirror MU.

finkelboy
Profile Joined December 2008
Italy372 Posts
February 22 2010 12:27 GMT
#822
my prayer is working! Omg jaedong was so much wet at the end of the game and the fact that stork had the jacket made me laugh :D
Ma jae yoon, what else? By.hero next bonjwa
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
February 22 2010 13:02 GMT
#823
Maybe it's just me, but I thought Jaedong pretty much played as well as he did during his 17 game ZvP streak. Generally he favors lurkers over mutas in ZvP anyway, as his ling/hydra/lurker/defiler army control is so fucking amazing. Plus matchpoint map favors the mass-hatch style due to its easy mineral only expansion. Stork just countered him incredibly well.

Yes, Jaedong made some questionable decisions in that game, but so did Stork. These players are awesome, but they're not going to play perfect in a 40 minute game. But in the end, Stork simply played better. He had the defensive, map-splitting strategy and it worked.

And I really don't see the point of a muta switch. Stork had gazillion cannons up half way through the game. Mutas with 0/0 upgrade isn't going to do jack while against archon/temp/cannons.
Meh
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
February 22 2010 13:27 GMT
#824
On February 20 2010 01:38 pvzvt wrote:
lol at people saying jaedong will lose to a protoss
and when is the match starting btw?

Oh the irony
http://www.kongregate.com/?referrer=Sagess
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13295 Posts
February 22 2010 13:59 GMT
#825
Damn, Jaedong made a tragic decision towards the end of that game that cost him.

Right around when he doom dropped the gates and took out Stork's army, he had him. Instead of taking out the rest of Stork's main and pinning him at that top expo, he went for the expo straight away and let Storky rebuild all those gateways while letting his army get ripped by cannons and storm. He may have taken out the expo eventually, but it cost him so much and gave Storky valuable time to rebuild.

Great game though.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
February 22 2010 14:04 GMT
#826
On February 22 2010 21:24 Caos2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2010 15:54 OneOther wrote:
On February 22 2010 11:37 Caos2 wrote:
IMHO the Dong played a good macro game but he lost almost every single battle.
Not impressed with his play at all.

why can't people appreciate such a great instead of trying to find bad things about it? yes players make mistakes, they are humans. i just don't get it haha. personally i cover up whatever could have been better in hindsight and enjoy how well they played


It was a good game, an epic game indeed but a great game? Jaedong played sub-par (when compared to his usual I'll-tear-your-limbs-apart self) while Stork did exactly what he had to do.

In comparison + Show Spoiler +
Flash's victories against Fantasy, Best and Bisu
made me almost drool. The winner single handedly destroyed the opponents with ingenious play, even which a clear BO disadvantage in the mirror MU.


Jaedong played as well as he always did but Stork can simply play like a god when it comes to a later game. There is a difference between defeating some mediocre players (let's face it, there aren't many good pvz players around anymore) and the maybe best late game expert having a good day. And you fanboys should stop whining about how jaedong would have won on a different map. He had 3 maps to chose and match point is either neutral or even zerg favored.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-22 16:42:59
February 22 2010 16:35 GMT
#827
On February 22 2010 21:24 Caos2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2010 15:54 OneOther wrote:
On February 22 2010 11:37 Caos2 wrote:
IMHO the Dong played a good macro game but he lost almost every single battle.
Not impressed with his play at all.

why can't people appreciate such a great instead of trying to find bad things about it? yes players make mistakes, they are humans. i just don't get it haha. personally i cover up whatever could have been better in hindsight and enjoy how well they played


It was a good game, an epic game indeed but a great game? Jaedong played sub-par (when compared to his usual I'll-tear-your-limbs-apart self) while Stork did exactly what he had to do.

In comparison + Show Spoiler +
Flash's victories against Fantasy, Best and Bisu
made me almost drool. The winner single handedly destroyed the opponents with ingenious play, even which a clear BO disadvantage in the mirror MU.


You know playing a perfect game is not the definition epic play. Its not fun when one player just gets crushed. Watch flash v jaedong on rush hour, bunch of little mistakes, resulted in a epic match between the two. Stork also made tons of mistakes during the game, so stop saying only jaedong made mistakes. One great player doesn't produce epic game, it takes two great players playing at the same level to produce epic games. Bisu, fantasy, best weren't playing nearly as good as flash was. People complain how jaedong made mistakes everywhere, I think people needed a reminder that stork made a huge mistake early on and was behind so much that of course even if jaedong makes mistake, he seems like he is winning.

You have bad taste, those games were nowhere as good as jaedong v stork.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
February 22 2010 16:47 GMT
#828
On February 20 2010 19:00 SuperArc wrote:
So? Effort and Hiya are 4-0/4-1 against Stork. Yet people seem to think Stork is a better player.

Stats mean shit, only results matter.


?? results => stats....
Stork FAN!!!
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
February 22 2010 16:49 GMT
#829
On February 23 2010 01:47 Inzek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 19:00 SuperArc wrote:
So? Effort and Hiya are 4-0/4-1 against Stork. Yet people seem to think Stork is a better player.

Stats mean shit, only results matter.


?? results => stats....

Starleague victory => results.

Effort + hiya = no title
Stork = 1 osl gold, 2 osl silver, 1 msl silver, 3 wcg silver
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
luizalberto
Profile Joined December 2008
Mexico31 Posts
February 22 2010 20:09 GMT
#830
On February 23 2010 01:49 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 01:47 Inzek wrote:
On February 20 2010 19:00 SuperArc wrote:
So? Effort and Hiya are 4-0/4-1 against Stork. Yet people seem to think Stork is a better player.

Stats mean shit, only results matter.


?? results => stats....

Starleague victory => results.

Effort + hiya = no title
Stork = 1 osl gold, 2 osl silver, 1 msl silver, 3 wcg silver


Actually he also won one WCG.
luizalberto
Profile Joined December 2008
Mexico31 Posts
February 22 2010 20:09 GMT
#831
Where can i find the VODS
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
February 22 2010 20:50 GMT
#832


I don't why some people argue Jeadong can pull off a draw here, gas is unlimited and plenty of mineral left.

sweet fucking game!
Xellos <3
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
February 22 2010 21:00 GMT
#833
On February 23 2010 01:49 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 01:47 Inzek wrote:
On February 20 2010 19:00 SuperArc wrote:
So? Effort and Hiya are 4-0/4-1 against Stork. Yet people seem to think Stork is a better player.

Stats mean shit, only results matter.


?? results => stats....

Starleague victory => results.

Effort + hiya = no title
Stork = 1 osl gold, 2 osl silver, 1 msl silver, 3 wcg silver


Stork won gold WCG '07, silver in '08 and '09 yo
Xellos <3
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
February 22 2010 22:44 GMT
#834
On February 23 2010 06:00 iloveHieu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 01:49 MuffinDude wrote:
On February 23 2010 01:47 Inzek wrote:
On February 20 2010 19:00 SuperArc wrote:
So? Effort and Hiya are 4-0/4-1 against Stork. Yet people seem to think Stork is a better player.

Stats mean shit, only results matter.


?? results => stats....

Starleague victory => results.

Effort + hiya = no title
Stork = 1 osl gold, 2 osl silver, 1 msl silver, 3 wcg silver


Stork won gold WCG '07, silver in '08 and '09 yo

wcg silver as in korea wcg, kespa sanctioned matches. I know he won wcg finals once. -_-
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
February 22 2010 23:45 GMT
#835
That was a fucking amazing game! I dont know what to say more than that really, yeah they both made some mistakes and Jaedongs biggest one was when he had the game in the bag by curshing the toss army and taking out the gates and not pursuing the rest of the main base, but try to nail that hard to enter expo.

I feel for JD, but Stork played amazingly well. GG
Mada Mada Dane
Ret.
Profile Joined June 2009
Brazil33 Posts
February 23 2010 01:00 GMT
#836
poor JD ... will never be called a bonjwa ...
GOGO Stork !!! next bonjwa ! hehe
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