• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:36
CEST 02:36
KST 09:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 239ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 What is your PC setup in 2026 for SCBW/SC2 ? Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】
Tourneys
IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7744 users

[SWL] Hwaseung OZ vs Samsung Khan - Page 35

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 42 Next All
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 20 2010 07:29 GMT
#681
On February 20 2010 16:27 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 16:24 OneOther wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:24 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:23 OneOther wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:22 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:21 MuffinDude wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:20 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:19 l10f wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:19 SuperArc wrote:
Why didnt Jaedong go for a draw?

He had enough static defense


You don't understand how weak sunkens are, and stork can just make 1 reaver 1 shuttle GG


Sunkens are damn strong against archons which was practically the only thing Stork had left.

and I dont think Stork had the tech/money to get reaver/shuttle

Dude, yes he did, he still was mining.


he was mining enough to squeeze out a few zealots and JD just needs to spam scourges with all the gas he has

just stop.
there were enough minerals left to make like 4+ reavers.


cuz scarabs are so cheap? uh huh

Pretty sure JD could have gone for a draw, it just didnt cross his mind.

so what you do is you make one reaver and kill all the sunkens. did you not see how much minerals were left at the base?


If JD had gone for a draw he wouldnt have wasted his units trying to kill off Stork. He would have saved them in OLs, spam scourges to have air dominance and kill any reavers that come to kill the sunkens. If Stork moves his army to defend the reaver, kill the probes. Match Point with its narrow chokes makes static defense damn strong.

But Jaedong is not the sort of player who goes for a draw.


are you trolling me?

if jaedong sits on his ass while "going for a draw and taking air dominance," stork would have mined out the entire 12 oclock base and proceed to roll him over. he could have killed jaedong simply with units if he had that sort of time, doesn't even need reavers.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
February 20 2010 07:30 GMT
#682
There was no chance for a draw... You guys are cracked.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
February 20 2010 07:30 GMT
#683
Instantly epic game, very intense to the end. The kind of game you really don't want to spoil the results because it's so back and forth you never know what happens in the end...
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8072 Posts
February 20 2010 07:30 GMT
#684
On February 20 2010 16:27 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 16:24 OneOther wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:24 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:23 OneOther wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:22 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:21 MuffinDude wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:20 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:19 l10f wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:19 SuperArc wrote:
Why didnt Jaedong go for a draw?

He had enough static defense


You don't understand how weak sunkens are, and stork can just make 1 reaver 1 shuttle GG


Sunkens are damn strong against archons which was practically the only thing Stork had left.

and I dont think Stork had the tech/money to get reaver/shuttle

Dude, yes he did, he still was mining.


he was mining enough to squeeze out a few zealots and JD just needs to spam scourges with all the gas he has

just stop.
there were enough minerals left to make like 4+ reavers.


cuz scarabs are so cheap? uh huh

Pretty sure JD could have gone for a draw, it just didnt cross his mind.

so what you do is you make one reaver and kill all the sunkens. did you not see how much minerals were left at the base?


If JD had gone for a draw he wouldnt have wasted his units trying to kill off Stork. He would have saved them in OLs, spam scourges to have air dominance and kill any reavers that come to kill the sunkens. If Stork moves his army to defend the reaver, kill the probes. Match Point with its narrow chokes makes static defense damn strong.

But Jaedong is not the sort of player who goes for a draw.


Jaedong couldn't have gotten a draw -_-. Stork could have moved his reavers without a shuttle surronded by Archons and won the game.. there was at least 1000+ minerals at 12 o clock..
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 20 2010 07:30 GMT
#685
no just SuperArc is lol
but then again it's the same guy who claims when JD uses 2 hatch ZvT, it's completely standard while it's all-in when Shine uses it haha
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
February 20 2010 07:31 GMT
#686
On February 20 2010 16:28 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 16:27 illu wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:22 G3CKO wrote:
stork vs ggplay version 2


if it was andromeda JD'd won already.

That game wasn't exciting or close after awhile.


Yup. It was just a hella long game. After a while, it was just cool only cuz Stork had defilers =x

Great back and forth game. Stork had start a bad start. I thought he lost when JD dropped his gateways. Superb storms there. Kudos to both players.

And 12 definitely had more than enough minerals to break the static defense.
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
February 20 2010 07:31 GMT
#687
jd mined out 5 bases stork mined out 4 bases, the 5th of stork decided the game. Probs to both players staying cost effective in the game. In the end the gas won the match when all the mins were being used on lings
GrayArea
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States872 Posts
February 20 2010 07:32 GMT
#688
Oh my lord, the jd vs stork game was soooooo epic and intense!! DAMN, one of the best games I have ever seen easily.

Wow, just wow. This game had me on the edge of my seat, it was so back and forth, both players were literally dripping with sweat. God it was so intense, it's a must watch game!! I haven't been this excited watching a game for years, wow just wow. Maybe it's because I really wanted Stork to win vs the favorite. GO WATCH THIS GAME!!
Kang Min Fighting!
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
February 20 2010 07:32 GMT
#689
On February 20 2010 16:25 usopsama wrote:
Not even another power outage would have won Jaedong that game. Stork simply raped him apart.


Unless, of course, the power outage had occurred at the exact moment when Stork lost his main army in the center and was having the remainder of his main chewed up, in which case a Kespa referee would have promptly given the game to Jaedong... Goes to show that you shouldn't judge a game too easily.

Argh... I'm still pissed about the heater incident... and I don't even particularly like Flash.
Brood War is alive and well.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
February 20 2010 07:32 GMT
#690
SuperArc, JD couldn't have gotten a draw. Stork was still mining at the end (off of 12), and had units. Face it, starting about halfway through the match, stork repelled every push jd made (including both base drops and the 12 oclock drop). jd lost way too many units trying to end it with just 1a2a3a and getting them all stormed.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
February 20 2010 07:32 GMT
#691
I think the sheer sweetness of Stork's Protoss play has overloaded and fried superarc's fragile hive mind. He can be forgiven for his lapse in logic after this game.
pyorotemjin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States95 Posts
February 20 2010 07:33 GMT
#692
this game was absolutely freaking incredible...wasn't expecting jd to mine out first though
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
February 20 2010 07:33 GMT
#693
Anyone know why JD didn't have an ovy or anything to scout at 12 o clock? I feel that's what lost him the game, as not only did Stork sneak an expansion on a 2 player map (which from personal experience is pretty much gg) but it also let him do that drop that killed JD's buildings and a few drones in his main.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
February 20 2010 07:34 GMT
#694
On February 20 2010 16:32 GeLaar wrote:
and I don't even particularly like Flash.


give it time, he'll win you over.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
February 20 2010 07:34 GMT
#695
The point is that 12 had like 1000 minerals in each patch. Thats more than enough to produce huge army and roll over Zerg "Free-style" (like the game between Jaedong and Free on Athena 2 if I'm correct in MSL Fall 2008).
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
February 20 2010 07:35 GMT
#696
Even if there were only a few hundred minerals left, Stork could win easily with DA or Scout or reaver.
日本語が分かりますか
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
February 20 2010 07:36 GMT
#697
On February 20 2010 16:33 QuakerOats wrote:
Anyone know why JD didn't have an ovy or anything to scout at 12 o clock? I feel that's what lost him the game, as not only did Stork sneak an expansion on a 2 player map (which from personal experience is pretty much gg) but it also let him do that drop that killed JD's buildings and a few drones in his main.

progamers are human too .
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Gorgy
Profile Joined December 2009
Chile65 Posts
February 20 2010 07:36 GMT
#698
JD delayed the drop in stork's main for too long.
also the gateways were very far up near the nat wich made the drop pretty much useless.

after the 12 oclock expo the game was over due to STORM SPAMMING.
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
February 20 2010 07:36 GMT
#699
Stork can have this win.

JD will have his Platinum mouse at the end of this year, Diamond mouse at the end of 2011, and the Unobtainium mouse at the end of 2012.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 20 2010 07:37 GMT
#700
On February 20 2010 16:29 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 16:27 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:24 OneOther wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:24 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:23 OneOther wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:22 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:21 MuffinDude wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:20 SuperArc wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:19 l10f wrote:
On February 20 2010 16:19 SuperArc wrote:
Why didnt Jaedong go for a draw?

He had enough static defense


You don't understand how weak sunkens are, and stork can just make 1 reaver 1 shuttle GG


Sunkens are damn strong against archons which was practically the only thing Stork had left.

and I dont think Stork had the tech/money to get reaver/shuttle

Dude, yes he did, he still was mining.


he was mining enough to squeeze out a few zealots and JD just needs to spam scourges with all the gas he has

just stop.
there were enough minerals left to make like 4+ reavers.


cuz scarabs are so cheap? uh huh

Pretty sure JD could have gone for a draw, it just didnt cross his mind.

so what you do is you make one reaver and kill all the sunkens. did you not see how much minerals were left at the base?


If JD had gone for a draw he wouldnt have wasted his units trying to kill off Stork. He would have saved them in OLs, spam scourges to have air dominance and kill any reavers that come to kill the sunkens. If Stork moves his army to defend the reaver, kill the probes. Match Point with its narrow chokes makes static defense damn strong.

But Jaedong is not the sort of player who goes for a draw.


are you trolling me?

if jaedong sits on his ass while "going for a draw and taking air dominance," stork would have mined out the entire 12 oclock base and proceed to roll him over. he could have killed jaedong simply with units if he had that sort of time, doesn't even need reavers.


How exactly is JD going to get air dominance when half of Stork's army are archons? Last I checked, archons shoot stuff out of the air right?

And all he had for "static defense" was four sunkens. I'm pretty sure those go down fast to a 100 pop army of 2/2/3 archon/zeal/DT
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 42 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #20
CranKy Ducklings67
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 220
Ketroc 51
FoxeR 16
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3760
Rain 2991
NaDa 25
IntoTheRainbow 10
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm168
League of Legends
JimRising 28
Counter-Strike
summit1g11246
m0e_tv267
minikerr29
Other Games
tarik_tv4667
Liquid`RaSZi1551
Maynarde128
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 91
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP60
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22112
Other Games
• imaqtpie1589
Upcoming Events
GSL
10h 25m
Monday Night Weeklies
15h 25m
Replay Cast
23h 25m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 10h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.