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Balfazar
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia483 Posts
February 20 2010 09:51 GMT
#761
No this is using TLPD with no international events.

vs Bisu - 10 wins 9 losses
vs Flash - 9 wins 5 losses
vs JD - 8 wins 7 losses
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
February 20 2010 10:00 GMT
#762
On February 20 2010 18:51 Balfazar wrote:
No this is using TLPD with no international events.

vs Bisu - 10 wins 9 losses
vs Flash - 9 wins 5 losses
vs JD - 8 wins 7 losses


So? Effort and Hiya are 4-0/4-1 against Stork. Yet people seem to think Stork is a better player.

Stats mean shit, only results matter.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Balfazar
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia483 Posts
February 20 2010 10:10 GMT
#763
Win/loss records are a reflection of results, and the records vs those 3 are more important because they are seen as the top 3 players of BW.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 20 2010 10:12 GMT
#764
But he lost to all 3 of them when it really mattered; in the finals.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 10:49:45
February 20 2010 10:49 GMT
#765
On February 20 2010 17:15 MuffinDude wrote:
Look at this guys.
Jaedong's last 25 zvp


That's just sick!

I must say, Stork has this really effective gay keep-away style against Jaedong, where he pretty much never engages unless necessary. And instead rely on using war of attrition, which is almost always favorable for the protoss. It's his way of making up for the ridiculous APM disadvantage he has against Jaedong.

The only mistakes Stork made in this last game were his attacks, which Jaedong pretty much destroyed with his godly control. Otherwise, his decision-making was absolutely amazing. Stork's troop movement and ability to engage on his own terms is why he's my favorite player. Truly the supreme commander.
Meh
Stupidity
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States209 Posts
February 20 2010 10:50 GMT
#766
On February 20 2010 19:00 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 18:51 Balfazar wrote:
No this is using TLPD with no international events.

vs Bisu - 10 wins 9 losses
vs Flash - 9 wins 5 losses
vs JD - 8 wins 7 losses


So? Effort and Hiya are 4-0/4-1 against Stork. Yet people seem to think Stork is a better player.

Stats mean shit, only results matter.

Come back and talk when Effort and Hiya combined have the same number of medals as Stork has. Effort and Hiya haven't gotten anywhere in any league. Yet some people seem to think they're better players than Stork.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
February 20 2010 10:51 GMT
#767
On February 20 2010 19:12 Holgerius wrote:
But he lost to all 3 of them when it really mattered; in the finals.

That was back in the times when he was a shy, scared nerd, now he would beat them all.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
February 20 2010 10:56 GMT
#768
His winning record is only particularly relevant, nowadays, versus Jaedong who he seems to be the only reliable counter to. A lot of his wins vs Flash are kind of buffer worthy, like the 3-0 for third place in Daum, I think it was? (I know Iris crushed Stork and GGplay ousted Flash earlier on so I'm pretty sure it was only a pseudo relevant match for seeding purposes). That said, Stork still trades games with him better than any protoss in recent times.

Basically Stork could be the best player in the world if he hadn't given a free title to the other three. :3
Remember Violet.
Balfazar
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia483 Posts
February 20 2010 11:45 GMT
#769
On February 20 2010 19:49 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 17:15 MuffinDude wrote:
Look at this guys.
Jaedong's last 25 zvp


That's just sick!

I must say, Stork has this really effective gay keep-away style against Jaedong, where he pretty much never engages unless necessary. And instead rely on using war of attrition, which is almost always favorable for the protoss. It's his way of making up for the ridiculous APM disadvantage he has against Jaedong.

The only mistakes Stork made in this last game were his attacks, which Jaedong pretty much destroyed with his godly control. Otherwise, his decision-making was absolutely amazing. Stork's troop movement and ability to engage on his own terms is why he's my favorite player. Truly the supreme commander.


Yeah the thing I notice about Stork's PvZ is he doesn't seem to focus at all on destroying expos, he either goes straight for the kill like against Killer or he patrols his army back and forth and takes his own expos until eventually he can just roll over the Z. It's a style that depends on his great army control and isn't easily replicated.
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
February 20 2010 13:13 GMT
#770
Storku is getting another final this year, so be patient fan boys !
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 14:39:35
February 20 2010 14:38 GMT
#771
On February 20 2010 19:00 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 18:51 Balfazar wrote:
No this is using TLPD with no international events.

vs Bisu - 10 wins 9 losses
vs Flash - 9 wins 5 losses
vs JD - 8 wins 7 losses


So? Effort and Hiya are 4-0/4-1 against Stork. Yet people seem to think Stork is a better player.

Stats mean shit, only results matter.
all of them have more golds too =o, and at least one of those golds from each player is against stork too haha
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
February 20 2010 14:41 GMT
#772
Go Stork, I'm so happy he's been in form for a while. I want a Flash v Stork BO5.... =).
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
February 20 2010 15:02 GMT
#773
On February 20 2010 18:51 Balfazar wrote:
No this is using TLPD with no international events.

vs Bisu - 10 wins 9 losses
vs Flash - 9 wins 5 losses
vs JD - 8 wins 7 losses


Cool stat, Stork is awesome just like that. But here is a far sadder and more important stat regarding Stork

In finals where money has been invovled between Stork and the big 3
JD 2-0 Stork in WCG GF/OSL
Bisu 2-0 Stork in MSL/IEF
Flash 2-0 Stork in GOM/OSL
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
February 20 2010 15:22 GMT
#774
STORK YEAH!!! Wow I'm so happy tonight
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
February 20 2010 16:15 GMT
#775
woot go KHAN!!!
go KHAN! TBLS <3
BlackYoshi
Profile Joined June 2009
United States84 Posts
February 20 2010 16:37 GMT
#776
Best game of 2010 so far


I hope a vod gets up really quickly...I need to show it to some buddies
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
February 20 2010 16:59 GMT
#777
WOW! I am so proud of being a Stork fan! Stork is the ONLY Protoss that can stop the dong!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 21:28:41
February 20 2010 21:19 GMT
#778
I stopped watching STK vs. KT when Hyuk 3-killed thinking it was gg for Flash with Bisu and Best still on board.

I stopped watching Khan vs. Oz when Killer beat great thinking it was gg for Stork with 3 players including JD he had to go through. Boy was I surprised this morning. I wish to read this interview hoping for some trashtalk.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 21:45:19
February 20 2010 21:43 GMT
#779
Saying that Stork is the better player just because he has winning record against the other 3 is fucking stupid. Better player and more deserved winner is about winning when it REALLY matters. Yea Stork can beat those players in proleague all he wants but from what we've seen in the past 2 years it's Jaedong's Bisu's teams who got into proleague finals. Stork can have a winning record against the big names but it's the big names who took several titles from Stork and Stork didn't even take a single one off them so you still think stork is a better player?

p/s: I respect stork as much as any of you do and I'm amazed how he has always been one of the best around but saying that hes a better player compared to the other 3 is lame just because he has a winning record against them.
PiePie
Profile Joined February 2010
United States248 Posts
February 20 2010 22:06 GMT
#780
On February 21 2010 06:19 lone_hydra wrote:
I stopped watching STK vs. KT when Hyuk 3-killed thinking it was gg for Flash with Bisu and Best still on board.

I stopped watching Khan vs. Oz when Killer beat great thinking it was gg for Stork with 3 players including JD he had to go through. Boy was I surprised this morning. I wish to read this interview hoping for some trashtalk.


^this guy is a irl manifestation of power outage
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