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Am I stopping probe production at the right time? - Page 5

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radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
February 01 2005 21:15 GMT
#81
trusting (it seems rather convincing) this the increase is 96, but thats over 60 game ticks, so thats 60/1.8 seconds i think. ask excal
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Sambo83
Profile Joined January 2005
United States20 Posts
February 01 2005 21:35 GMT
#82
Liquid Drone, I am sorry. I accidentally inserted the difference between 16 probes and 24 probes because I remembered that number from a conversation earlier today. The correct number is 96 as radiaL said.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28784 Posts
February 01 2005 22:18 GMT
#83
hm

that list seems very weird, because the increase between 22 and 24 is 96, while the increase between 20 and 22 is 40. the increase between 20 and 22 should logically be larger than the increase between 22 and 24.

although he does explain that as well. either way he shows that more than 24 is a complete and utter waste.
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koehli
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany350 Posts
February 01 2005 22:39 GMT
#84
Erm drone I think somebody posted the waiting thingy in this thread. 23 or 24 Probes + he claims stop running around looking for free mins, they just wait for their turn to harvest. If that's true (haven't tested it, but at least there seems to be a stop running around bordervalue) this means all of a sudden you always have a probe at each minerals, which is optimum. The exact number this happens should be an unsteadyness in the minerals / (probes * time) function and give you an extra reward which classifys pheered.users strategy as at least a local optimum strategy from a gaming theory point of view ;-)
You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time.
Fayth[pG]
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada1093 Posts
February 01 2005 22:56 GMT
#85
Unless u plan to attack before u expand, u'd rather go probe non stop, get expand, then completely stop probes, make units off 6-7 gates and woohoo!
oOa
[G]Max_Power
Profile Joined January 2003
Slovakia304 Posts
February 01 2005 23:36 GMT
#86
On February 02 2005 07:56 Fayth[pG] wrote:
Unless u plan to attack before u expand, u'd rather go probe non stop, get expand, then completely stop probes, make units off 6-7 gates and woohoo!


according to some people, you are a dumbass newbie...

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[G]Max_Power
Profile Joined January 2003
Slovakia304 Posts
February 01 2005 23:50 GMT
#87
On February 02 2005 04:26 RaGe-xG- wrote:

we've been trying to explain it for about 2 pages worth of replies.

Does anyone here speak slovakian?


the language is slovak not slovakian.just for your information

its ok, you can still work on your english, nobody is perfect.
1 beer plz
Cygnus
Profile Joined February 2004
United States850 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-02 04:24:51
February 02 2005 04:23 GMT
#88
On January 30 2005 20:10 pheered.user wrote:
seriously, If there is a matchup that I know anything about it is PVP, I could easily put myself in top 5 pvp in the USA.


Im better then you at every matchup proven, dont make riduculious claims you can't backup with any so called "skill"

Oh and saying "easily put myself in top 5 pvp" just makes you a huge faggot. Dont even get me started about your micro.

And dont use this "you cheese me every game and win with it" bullshit, I use weird strats cause I know I can beat you no matter what I do. I hate that you bring this outa me, as I like to be humble and manner, but please just shut up and accept your place...

FYI your place isnt even close to top 5 USA, I can think of at least 30 american players who would beat you PvP without even trying.

p.s msg me for bo5 if you want me to prove what I stated above. Last bo5 was 4-1 anyways.

FroZZoR
Profile Joined October 2002
China925 Posts
February 02 2005 04:39 GMT
#89
honestly you all suck. get over your egos.
There can be only one
Fayth[pG]
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada1093 Posts
February 02 2005 04:53 GMT
#90
On February 02 2005 08:36 [G]Max_Power wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2005 07:56 Fayth[pG] wrote:
Unless u plan to attack before u expand, u'd rather go probe non stop, get expand, then completely stop probes, make units off 6-7 gates and woohoo!


according to some people, you are a dumbass newbie...


according to some people, i am quite good too.
It's the same for most of the good players out there
oOa
Response
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1936 Posts
February 02 2005 05:50 GMT
#91
ROFLMFAO pheered if your top 5 pvp in the country then im fucking top 5 in the world ;P j/p but seriously that is pretty gay
GOGO cygnus for calling him out BO5 IT BIATCHES
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36392 Posts
February 02 2005 06:00 GMT
#92
who the fuck is [G]max_power and and why is everyone still trying to prove him wrong, he has no basis for his arguments other than "i can beat people while constantly making probes" and when all the evidence and opinions from good players contradict what he says he just goes around flaming people

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iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
February 02 2005 06:24 GMT
#93
On February 02 2005 08:36 [G]Max_Power wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2005 07:56 Fayth[pG] wrote:
Unless u plan to attack before u expand, u'd rather go probe non stop, get expand, then completely stop probes, make units off 6-7 gates and woohoo!


according to some people, you are a dumbass newbie...



No; according to some people, you are the dumbass newbie. There's a difference between stopping probes once you expand and making 100 supply of probes with 5 probes to a mineral.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10678 Posts
February 02 2005 06:26 GMT
#94
On January 31 2005 03:42 Liquid`Drone wrote:
3 more goons wins the game very often if your timing is good.

more probes are only useful if you expand. if you both expand and make additional probes, someone who does not expand and stops probes after ~24 will attack you and kill you.


still eri, you would have to totally have flawless production because well, having 300-400 minerals stacked is common and it also means 3 dragoons more, what i mean is that people should focus more on other things rather than cutting probe production.

When you cut probe production is that you dont have any other "flaw" so you try to squeese the last drop of economy for an advantage while not many people have that flawless play, i say dont stop unless you are Nal_Ra
Im back, in pog form!
pheered.user
Profile Joined March 2003
United States2603 Posts
February 02 2005 07:09 GMT
#95
On February 02 2005 13:23 JaySmurff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2005 20:10 pheered.user wrote:
seriously, If there is a matchup that I know anything about it is PVP, I could easily put myself in top 5 pvp in the USA.


Im better then you at every matchup proven, dont make riduculious claims you can't backup with any so called "skill"

Oh and saying "easily put myself in top 5 pvp" just makes you a huge faggot. Dont even get me started about your micro.

And dont use this "you cheese me every game and win with it" bullshit, I use weird strats cause I know I can beat you no matter what I do. I hate that you bring this outa me, as I like to be humble and manner, but please just shut up and accept your place...

FYI your place isnt even close to top 5 USA, I can think of at least 30 american players who would beat you PvP without even trying.

p.s msg me for bo5 if you want me to prove what I stated above. Last bo5 was 4-1 anyways.




Stop talking shit cuase i left your stupid shitty clan, If the bo5 is pure pvp, i will win 3-0

However I am not saying i can beat you best of 5 pvt because, well i dont even want to play you

your mind works like this

1. Do something gay
2. when it fails turtle till you can win.
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Cygnus
Profile Joined February 2004
United States850 Posts
February 02 2005 07:17 GMT
#96
On February 02 2005 16:09 pheered.user wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2005 13:23 JaySmurff wrote:
On January 30 2005 20:10 pheered.user wrote:
seriously, If there is a matchup that I know anything about it is PVP, I could easily put myself in top 5 pvp in the USA.


Im better then you at every matchup proven, dont make riduculious claims you can't backup with any so called "skill"

Oh and saying "easily put myself in top 5 pvp" just makes you a huge faggot. Dont even get me started about your micro.

And dont use this "you cheese me every game and win with it" bullshit, I use weird strats cause I know I can beat you no matter what I do. I hate that you bring this outa me, as I like to be humble and manner, but please just shut up and accept your place...

FYI your place isnt even close to top 5 USA, I can think of at least 30 american players who would beat you PvP without even trying.

p.s msg me for bo5 if you want me to prove what I stated above. Last bo5 was 4-1 anyways.




Stop talking shit cuase i left your stupid shitty clan, If the bo5 is pure pvp, i will win 3-0

However I am not saying i can beat you best of 5 pvt because, well i dont even want to play you

your mind works like this

1. Do something gay
2. when it fails turtle till you can win.


For the sake of the tl.net community can you stop saying your top 5 PvP in USA?
FroST(TE)
Profile Joined September 2004
United States909 Posts
February 02 2005 07:50 GMT
#97
im going to have to side with fayth here
im not the best player ever nor do i know more about bw than eri but pvp is my best mu and im pretty good at it, and i make more or less constant probes even after my expo for a bit, and then go goon/lot off like 7-8 gates - having more probes can make up for late expos i think when you macro hard x.x
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
February 02 2005 08:05 GMT
#98
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[G]Max_Power
Profile Joined January 2003
Slovakia304 Posts
February 02 2005 17:15 GMT
#99
On February 02 2005 13:53 Fayth[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2005 08:36 [G]Max_Power wrote:
On February 02 2005 07:56 Fayth[pG] wrote:
Unless u plan to attack before u expand, u'd rather go probe non stop, get expand, then completely stop probes, make units off 6-7 gates and woohoo!


according to some people, you are a dumbass newbie...


according to some people, i am quite good too.
It's the same for most of the good players out there


yes i think you know what i meant.

to the guys flaming me - you are not worth my time.Maybe you should reread the 5 pages of replies and see yourself that there are two groups of ppl - ones that make 25 probes and others that make 10 more.I am one who makes 35+ at one base.And im pretty good at it.

http://www.battlereports.com/downloadreplay.php3/27388_strafe 2.rep?replaynum=27388

if anyone wants some "argument"
1 beer plz
Terross
Profile Joined November 2003
United States878 Posts
February 02 2005 19:53 GMT
#100
On February 02 2005 15:24 iamke55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2005 08:36 [G]Max_Power wrote:
On February 02 2005 07:56 Fayth[pG] wrote:
Unless u plan to attack before u expand, u'd rather go probe non stop, get expand, then completely stop probes, make units off 6-7 gates and woohoo!


according to some people, you are a dumbass newbie...



No; according to some people, you are the dumbass newbie. There's a difference between stopping probes once you expand and making 100 supply of probes with 5 probes to a mineral.


if you do fayth's one and only b/o pvp then it is good, but otherwise i wouldn't follow what he says too much ;o
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