EPTOn December 30 2015 09:53 Kau wrote:
Wouldn't storms still destroy dropships pretty handily?
Wouldn't storms still destroy dropships pretty handily?
A dropship has 150 hp, enough to survive one storm.
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LetaBot
Netherlands557 Posts
A dropship has 150 hp, enough to survive one storm. | ||
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EMPaThy789
New Zealand878 Posts
On December 30 2015 10:22 LetaBot wrote: A dropship has 150 hp, enough to survive one storm. Everything would still die pretty easily to storms. Storms vs dropships would be pretty similar to how protoss plays vs shuttles in pvp where you just storm the shuttle + reaver and kill them both. A dropship only has 10 more hp than a shuttle and also moves slower so its harder to move out of storms | ||
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Bareleon
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I like sc2's larva. I hate that about sc1's zerg. | ||
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TheGreatOne
United States534 Posts
On December 29 2015 11:15 vOdToasT wrote: Like I said: Not to mention that the people who won multiple championships did so because they were superior players, not because their race was superior. They are statistical outliers. If Terran wins 55% of the time against Zerg on a map, but a player wins 70% of the time against Zerg, and wins multiple tournaments, then he's clearly doing something more than just playing Terran. And winning as a Protoss during the age of the six dragons, or when the corsair DT was a thing meant less than winning as a Protoss now, because the strategic state of the game favoured Protoss at that time. Protoss was ahead in evolution. At one point, I read a statistical analysis which stated that Terran won less than 50% of their TvP games if Flash was not counted. If he was counted, then they won more than 50%. It's possible that only Terran allows for the kind of domination that Flash enjoyed - that Terran truly is the best race. But at the high level only attained by Flash, we don't know what the game is truly like. We don't know whether or not a Protoss user who was just as good as Flash, but who's nature was more suited to the Protoss race rather than the Terran one, would have dominated just as much. When you just look at the number of tournaments won, you are missing all of the above. However, if you want to pretend that Fighting Spirit is the only map, then you can safely conclude that Terran is the best, at the very least in the current strategic environment.. Post kespa statistics support this. Clearly maps play a part.Could it be said that despite the maps or that the maps have always been Terran>Zerg>Protoss.Could this be because maps just usually tend to favor the typical t>z>p equation.Of course maps could favor it any other way around but they don't.Overall statistics would say this right?You can't count out the fact that just simply saying the balance of races play a part just as important as maps do.I know I already posted this but I just wanted too quote Voddy and refer this reply too him specifically. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8842 Posts
On December 31 2015 00:58 Bareleon wrote: Which do you like better: SC1's larva where you use up all the larva at the same time when you click on a unit in a Hatchery/Lair/Hive or SC2's larva where it only uses one larva? I like sc2's larva. I hate that about sc1's zerg. sc1 larva anyday mass producing zerglings or hydras is so much cleaner. also being able to properly deselect larva adds for some extra skill | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8842 Posts
but in bw u can control click the unit and it will select all of the same type probably works the same for sc2 | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
On December 31 2015 16:54 evilfatsh1t wrote: this is bw sqsa but in bw u can control click the unit and it will select all of the same type probably works the same for sc2 omg that works thanks! | ||
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Wrath
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Scarbo
294 Posts
On January 02 2016 03:30 WrathSCII wrote: Is ICCUP down at the moment or what? Every time I reach to "Accessing Account" it rolls back to the servers list screen... Is my IP blocked by ICCUP server? Working fine here. | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
Okay just checked and it is working fine now. It must have been a connection issue on my side. Thanks. P.S. if you are D, wanna play? :D | ||
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Wrath
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Highgamer
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JK, but as they come from all over the world it's hard to tell. I don't think there are specific hours. I think the best chances are the evenings of european timezones and the evenings of US timezones (and to me it seems like south america never sleeps). edit: As I see you in OP Teamliquid on Iccup a lot: Unfortunatelly that channel is not really the to-go-place for players from TL it seems, the majority is in Ladder Channel, in games or in private/clan-channels. If you miss active players from this site, maybe you should post in the practice partner thread and fill up your f-list with people that look for partners or PM people directly. | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
How to secure a 4th on FS and how do you fight Protoss when he gets +4 bases? | ||
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Highgamer
1451 Posts
It all boils down to how well your 3-base push, generally with at least +2 attack and +1 armor upgrade, goes. You make that big push to either end the game right there (if you get a really good engagement you can move on to destroy 2-3 of Protoss' bases or destroy the main, game generally is over) or to kill most of Protoss' army, kill one or two of the expos, and get your 4th up in the shelter of your push. + Show Spoiler + Isoalted bases are very hard to defend for a Terran in TvP, if you try it, the base will get recalled or taken out by attacks with ground units. You can stall these attacks a lot with mines and a few well placed tanks, but generally the base falls too early to be cost efficient. You need the protection of your main army (kicking Protoss' ass) for that base. From that it is clear that you should expand to a certain location en-route with your push so that you can defend quickly if necessary, like this for example: you are green, Protoss is red, orange and yellow are your attack-paths (roughly) and possible expos. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9tW79SO.jpg) Don't miss the timing to place your 4th during the push. Generally your opponent will be 100% occupied with your push, but if you start the expo too late, Protoss will have time to harrass before the base is up. During your push or shortly before you send out the SCV/fly the CC to the expo-location, you should send a couple of vultures there to clear up any guarding Protoss units (often a zealot) and to lay some mines against the stray units Protoss will send to cancel your expo. Expo should have a few turrets against DTs or shuttles, too. That's just how the balance works in this matchup's lategame: You have a kick-ass-army that is almost unstoppable if well controlled, but Protoss starts the fight with more income and production (and stuff like recall). It's really hard at first to not get out-macroed between mid- and lategame, and also hard to not mess up the engagements (you will have to full-stop siege your army a few times, get in position, then Protoss retreats, then you have to start moving again). Good Protosses will find the right time to attack when you're not well sieged, and they will try to counter-attack and aim for your expo if it's unguarded. 4 (or more) base Protoss is really strong, but if you macroed efficiently earlier, reinforce well and if you have good army control you can beat the Protoss army repeatedly. Push decisively but also very cautiously, don't rush too far after the first big clash. It will be very costly for Protoss to remax, and if you can choke her/him on those 4-5 bases they will dry out. + Show Spoiler + Often people think that Terrans are making 'comebacks' in lategame TvP just because their first push didn't outright kill the Protoss. As long as her/his economical lead and production don't get ridiculously superior, you always have another shot as long as you can muster up another big army. Tons of stuff could be said about how exactly to play in the lategame, how to move your army, how to counter Protoss' compositions... but at first it's important to practice until your big 3-base push hits early enough and well controlled. | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
Thank you very much for the super detailed response. I appreciate it! | ||
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Ty2
United States1434 Posts
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Scarbo
294 Posts
On January 03 2016 18:38 Ty2 wrote: Protoss is really cost effective race and requires a lot of manipulation and tactical prowess. You're going to want to go upgrades fast and go hard and fast with the Carriers. This map is a total island map when you look at it from a Carrier point of view. Ridges overlooking each natural base, huge air space to live, cannons at each cliff overlooking the natural base chokepoint, and besides that, Carriers are really good air units. I think to counter capital spaceship, one must go with their own capital spaceship, the battlecruiser. Who you talking to? | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
I would like to know the difference between iloveoov and Nada's playstyle / contributions to the Terran race since they both strike me as mechanical macrobots to me. Thanks | ||
Harem
United States11393 Posts
Also, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/81288-iloveoov-the-greatest-genius | ||
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