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Scout vs. Observer; Battle of the Protoss Scouters - Page 5

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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 10 2009 13:35 GMT
#81
Can this unit be seen by tanks??
Observer - 1 (2)
Scout - 0 (2)


This is really crucial. Any unit that can be seen by a tank is vulnerable to attack. I think this question really struck at the meat of the issue.


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eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
July 10 2009 13:46 GMT
#82
AriG[autO] (USWest top Australian player): Scouts are the best to scout with


VsT_Dark (AriG[autO]'s other acct): Scouts rock


Haha this is awesome
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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
July 10 2009 14:04 GMT
#83
On July 10 2009 22:33 jello_biafra wrote:
I think speed shuttle might be better than both? It has supreme speed.


It is called shuttle. It is made for moving units. Scouts are obviously ment for scouting, while Observers are built for spying on people.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
July 10 2009 14:13 GMT
#84
But it costs a lot less to upgrade observers than to upgrade scouts, and observers can still see invisible things. If the scout could see invisible units, it could be a lot more useful.
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 10 2009 14:14 GMT
#85
Scout representing!
+ Show Spoiler +
wow so you guys take this topic seriously, lol!
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Sixer
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States278 Posts
July 10 2009 14:14 GMT
#86
Next time a Scout flies into my base, I'm blaming this thread.
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No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
July 10 2009 14:24 GMT
#87
pretty hilarious!! hehehe really nice thread!! congrats!!!!
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
July 10 2009 14:24 GMT
#88
lol@people taking this seriously.
SlayerS_`HackeR`
Profile Joined November 2008
United States190 Posts
July 10 2009 14:36 GMT
#89
wow i am definitely goiing to scout with scouts next time
- i pwn n00bs -
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
July 10 2009 14:48 GMT
#90
Lol at all the undecisive people if this is a joke or not:-p
Nice writeup!
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Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 14:54:40
July 10 2009 14:54 GMT
#91
On July 10 2009 20:35 Vex wrote:
This is bullshit.
scouts are useless, anti air unit that no one ever gets.
their too weak, expensive.

obs are cheap, detecting fast units that can do all the jobs needed. can scouts detect? no. can obs kill nexus? thats stupid. scouts used to kill nexus? u thinking of massing 500 of em?

only useful vs carrier/devourer/ov/bc? mb imho.


Dude, nuh uh. Scouts are faster. Plus, scouts are useful versus ANYTHING THAT MOVES. Oh, and...expo drone sniping anyone? You don't need to snipe the hatch if it never gets to morph!

Sheesh man.
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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
July 10 2009 14:57 GMT
#92
lol...

honestly though, if the scout has the speed upgrad rolled into them right out of stargate, scout would've been a decent investment and we would see much more interesting protoss strategies...
kNife
Profile Joined December 2008
Malaysia70 Posts
July 10 2009 15:11 GMT
#93
such a excited thread~.~
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vauli
Profile Joined April 2006
Peru18 Posts
July 10 2009 15:11 GMT
#94

Observer
Robo: 200minerals 200gas (OUCH!)
Observatory: 50minerals 100gas
Observer: 25minerals 75gas

TOTAL: 275 minerals 375gas

Scout
Stargate: 150minerals 150gas
Scout: 275minerals 125gas

TOTAL: 425minerals 275gas


What about getting 5 obs and 5 scouts?
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
July 10 2009 15:20 GMT
#95
cors 100-0 scout

can scouts detect mines? no.
can you leave your scout into opponent main and cripple them everywhere on the map? no.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 15:24:27
July 10 2009 15:21 GMT
#96
Interesting thread but i think that sairs > obs and scouts because two sairs an kill a wraith with splash damage whereas two obs can't kill the wraith and two scouts can't see it.

fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Vision
Profile Joined June 2009
United States113 Posts
July 10 2009 15:37 GMT
#97
This is actually hilarious. o_O
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
July 10 2009 15:43 GMT
#98
Clearly the most versatile unit composition, even for the mission of scouting, is one involving combined arms. A scout AND an obs can fly and see and kill anything to your heart's content. The only way to boost the efficacy of this potent reconnaissance duo would be to further the unit variety. Adding a Zerg Mutalisk and a Terran Barracks to the party would boost its tanking ability, gosu micro, and political correctness. As you can see, well engineered class combinations can scout the hell out of even deadly bosses like Ultima Weapon.
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
July 10 2009 15:46 GMT
#99
best. op. EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
July 10 2009 15:48 GMT
#100
On July 10 2009 14:31 AzureEye wrote:
Can this unit destroy nexus'??
Observer - 0 (0)
Scout - 1 (1)

Can this unit see cloaked ghosts nuking ur city??
Observer - 1 (1)
Scout - 0 (1)

Can this unit shoot down queens trying to spawn broodlings on ur reavers??
Observers - 0 (1)
Scout - 1 (2)

Can this unit be seen by tanks??
Observer - 1 (2)
Scout - 0 (2)

Can this unit fly by a turret without dying??
Observer - 0 (2)
Scout - 1 (3)

Conclusion:
Scout wins rapidfire round 3-2, it's pretty clear that a scout has more of what progamers need in a scouting unit.


I think most of these questions are not important in real game and pretty useless. Why would a scout gain an advantage because it can take down a nexus? Would a person seriously use a scout or even a group of scouts to take down a nexus? No because it would take forever. The only useful question here asked is 'Can this unit fly by a turret without dying??'


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