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Scout vs. Observer; Battle of the Protoss Scouters - Page 2

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AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
July 10 2009 05:39 GMT
#21
one very obvious point that you forgot is that the scout's name is scout, which should give it at least one extra point, as blizzard obviously intended it that way. just read their strategy guide online and youll see.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
July 10 2009 05:40 GMT
#22
do u kno what this tells me

speed upgraded obs and slow scout move at roughly same speed, so the best unit is a scout and obs right on top of each other
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 10 2009 05:43 GMT
#23
yeah it gives the best of both worlds!
UNFUCK YOURSELF
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 10 2009 05:45 GMT
#24
On July 10 2009 14:37 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2009 14:31 AzureEye wrote:
I think most of these questions are not important in real game and pretty useless. Why would a scout gain an advantage because it can take down a nexus? Would a person seriously use a scout or even a group of scouts to take down a nexus? No because it would take forever. The only useful question here asked is 'Can this unit fly by a turret without dying??'

You're taking things way too seriously!

Great read! haha!


I don't think anyone would put this much amount of time into measuring and calculating (those info pics up there) just for troll purposes....well at least I wouldn't expect people to
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
July 10 2009 05:46 GMT
#25
On July 10 2009 14:40 Hot_Bid wrote:
do u kno what this tells me

speed upgraded obs and slow scout move at roughly same speed, so the best unit is a scout and obs right on top of each other


but what if they unstack
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 05:48:40
July 10 2009 05:48 GMT
#26
Observers can be seen by tanks and tanks can't see scouts?
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l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
July 10 2009 05:49 GMT
#27
On July 10 2009 14:46 FragKrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2009 14:40 Hot_Bid wrote:
do u kno what this tells me

speed upgraded obs and slow scout move at roughly same speed, so the best unit is a scout and obs right on top of each other


but what if they unstack


Group them with a stuck dragoon you get every game due to your fail pylon/gate placements. Then they won't unstack.
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10831 Posts
July 10 2009 05:50 GMT
#28
On July 10 2009 14:49 l10f wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2009 14:46 FragKrag wrote:
On July 10 2009 14:40 Hot_Bid wrote:
do u kno what this tells me

speed upgraded obs and slow scout move at roughly same speed, so the best unit is a scout and obs right on top of each other


but what if they unstack


Group them with a stuck dragoon you get every game due to your fail pylon/gate placements. Then they won't unstack.

or if you're combat-ex your stuck archon
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x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
July 10 2009 05:52 GMT
#29
you should ask if they can stop a turret from shooting them:

observer 1
scout 0
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Qexen
Profile Joined October 2005
Canada19 Posts
July 10 2009 05:55 GMT
#30
On July 10 2009 14:50 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2009 14:49 l10f wrote:
On July 10 2009 14:46 FragKrag wrote:
On July 10 2009 14:40 Hot_Bid wrote:
do u kno what this tells me

speed upgraded obs and slow scout move at roughly same speed, so the best unit is a scout and obs right on top of each other


but what if they unstack


Group them with a stuck dragoon you get every game due to your fail pylon/gate placements. Then they won't unstack.

or if you're combat-ex your stuck archon


ownt
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 05:55:45
July 10 2009 05:55 GMT
#31
I'm not quite sure how to take this... Seems strangely irrelevant to gameplay.
EDIT: And lurkers look bad-ass thank-you-very-much.
antzilla
Profile Joined June 2009
United States52 Posts
July 10 2009 05:56 GMT
#32
Can form victory fleets:

Scout 1
Observer 0
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 10 2009 05:58 GMT
#33
On July 10 2009 14:40 Hot_Bid wrote:
speed upgraded obs and slow scout move at roughly same speed, so the best unit is a scout and obs right on top of each other

Genius! With the observer's detection and the scout's powerful ground attack, you'll be able to take out groups of burrowed hydras you encounter while scouting.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
July 10 2009 05:59 GMT
#34
On July 10 2009 14:50 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2009 14:49 l10f wrote:
On July 10 2009 14:46 FragKrag wrote:
On July 10 2009 14:40 Hot_Bid wrote:
do u kno what this tells me

speed upgraded obs and slow scout move at roughly same speed, so the best unit is a scout and obs right on top of each other


but what if they unstack


Group them with a stuck dragoon you get every game due to your fail pylon/gate placements. Then they won't unstack.

or if you're combat-ex your stuck archon


dun dun dun
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
July 10 2009 06:00 GMT
#35
This should improve my PvT immensely! Thanks so much for your research!
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 10 2009 06:11 GMT
#36
On July 10 2009 14:56 antzilla wrote:
Can form victory fleets:

Scout 1
Observer 0


obviously you haven't seen mass observers.

the horror...
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 10 2009 06:14 GMT
#37
Hey, you can totally make a victory fleet of observers. It'll just look kind of shimmery to the other player though.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 06:19:34
July 10 2009 06:17 GMT
#38
On July 10 2009 15:14 Nevuk wrote:
Hey, you can totally make a victory fleet of observers. It'll just look kind of shimmery to the other player though.

You can pretty much count on your opponent mistaking your observer victory fleet for mass DTs and gg out of panic immediately after, it happens to me all the time.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
July 10 2009 06:20 GMT
#39
But you can kill them both because they aren't under land.
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omfghi2u2
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States831 Posts
July 10 2009 06:22 GMT
#40
You should include build time.
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