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[NEWS] Battle Royal Gone!

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sky_slasher
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 20:53:22
May 22 2009 16:15 GMT
#1
Fomos, 5/23/09

SPL - Battle Royal Replaced by Shadow of Twilight

08 - 09 season R5 official maps announced

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KeSPA announced the official maps for SPL 08 - 09 season R4 which begins on May 30.

Battle Royal has been replaced by Shadow of Twilight. Neo Medusa has been changed as not to enable Zerg to build Hatchery on the middle area of the map. No change has been made on the other four maps.

Shadow of Twilight is a reverse ramp map like Neo Requiem.

Copyright (c) Fomos. All rights reserved.

Previous discussion on the change of Battle Royal:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93765
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BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
May 22 2009 16:18 GMT
#2
Neo Medusa has been changed as not to enable Zerg to build Hatchery on the middle area of the map.


Lame, I liked that strat.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 22 2009 16:19 GMT
#3
I really don't see why they needed to make proxy hatch impossible on Medusa, but I'm glad to see BR gone...
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Delerium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States324 Posts
May 22 2009 16:20 GMT
#4
uh... shouldn't it be the player's job to keep tabs on whether he's being contained, rather than the e-sports administration's job to save them from enemy strats?
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
May 22 2009 16:20 GMT
#5
The layout reminds me of reverse temple.
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
May 22 2009 16:21 GMT
#6
On May 23 2009 01:18 BWdero wrote:
Show nested quote +
Neo Medusa has been changed as not to enable Zerg to build Hatchery on the middle area of the map.


Lame, I liked that strat.

Yeah, it was something new and fun, not unbeatable. Protoss didn't want to adapt nor they had enough games to do so.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
May 22 2009 16:22 GMT
#7
Proxy hatches are awesome.

Sucks they got taken away.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 16:26:37
May 22 2009 16:26 GMT
#8
NO

WHAT HAPPENED TO CENTRAL PLAINS =(

On May 23 2009 01:21 Magic84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 01:18 BWdero wrote:
Neo Medusa has been changed as not to enable Zerg to build Hatchery on the middle area of the map.


Lame, I liked that strat.

Yeah, it was something new and fun, not unbeatable. Protoss didn't want to adapt nor they had enough games to do so.


Totally agree. I bet Bisu complained to KeSPA directly
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DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
May 22 2009 16:26 GMT
#9
Haha, every Zerg to comment on this thread only commented on the proxy hatches on Medusa.

It's too bad they got rid of Battle Royale though, I didn't mind it. But I like ZvZ.
parasite
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7219 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 16:28:02
May 22 2009 16:26 GMT
#10
Hope Shadow of Twilight is good :x
Entusman #12
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
May 22 2009 16:28 GMT
#11
I hate to say it. But if you get contained then you deserve to have to deal with proxy hatches...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
May 22 2009 16:29 GMT
#12
Proleague version of Byzantium... =(

At least release Central Plains so that we can play on ICCup!
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
May 22 2009 16:30 GMT
#13
i dont understand why they removed the proxy hatch, mabey kespa are full of tosses
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
May 22 2009 16:30 GMT
#14
On May 23 2009 01:30 Scaramanga wrote:
i dont understand why they removed the proxy hatch, mabey kespa are full of tosses

Bisu complained
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malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States361 Posts
May 22 2009 16:31 GMT
#15
No point in having a map that is only playable in one matchup

Good riddance
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
May 22 2009 16:32 GMT
#16
On May 23 2009 01:30 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 01:30 Scaramanga wrote:
i dont understand why they removed the proxy hatch, mabey kespa are full of tosses

Bisu complained

Serously? wtf is sc comming to
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
May 22 2009 16:34 GMT
#17
Obviously neo medusa was removed because kespa just looked at zerg's win percentage against bisu using the strategy and decided it was imbalanced.
No I'm never serious.
MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
May 22 2009 16:35 GMT
#18
Let me get this right: They made a map where zerg can use infested terrans, but... they can't make a proxy hatch on Medusa? Lol, yeah ok... And here I was thinking zerg was using a good strategy, but now I come to find out the strategy is horribly imbalanced and they were abusing the game. I like the precedence this sets: if a race decides to only use 1 strategy every game, but another race developes a good counter to this, they can alter the map instead of encouraging more diverse and entertaining strategies. Bah.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 16:35:47
May 22 2009 16:35 GMT
#19
On May 23 2009 01:34 Nytefish wrote:
Obviously neo medusa was removed because kespa just looked at zerg's win percentage against bisu using the strategy and decided it was imbalanced.

Yeah

Bisu 0-1 Zerg on Neo Medusa

imba

On May 23 2009 01:35 MachineHead wrote:
Let me get this right: They made a map where zerg can use infested terrans, but... they can't make a proxy hatch on Medusa? Lol, yeah ok... And here I was thinking zerg was using a good strategy, but now I come to find out the strategy is horribly imbalanced and they were abusing the game. I like the precedence this sets: if a race decides to only use 1 strategy every game, but another race developes a good counter to this, they can alter the map instead of encouraging more diverse and entertaining strategies. Bah.


You can proxy hatch on Holy World fyi
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
May 22 2009 16:35 GMT
#20
If proxy hatch is such a fun strat, I don't see why the zerg players can't try it on another map. It's not like KeSPA forbade it.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
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