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[NEWS] Battle Royal Gone! - Page 3

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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
May 22 2009 16:52 GMT
#41
Wait, why did they take away the proxy-hatch abilities on Neo Medusa.

The hell.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
May 22 2009 16:52 GMT
#42
On May 23 2009 01:30 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 01:30 Scaramanga wrote:
i dont understand why they removed the proxy hatch, mabey kespa are full of tosses

Bisu complained

Some things never change~
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
May 22 2009 16:53 GMT
#43
AMEN to BR
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
May 22 2009 16:53 GMT
#44
On May 23 2009 01:50 Elyvilon wrote:
There are no twilight maps in PL right now and it feels wrong to me.

Neo Medusa.. lol
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
May 22 2009 16:57 GMT
#45
On May 23 2009 01:53 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 01:50 Elyvilon wrote:
There are no twilight maps in PL right now and it feels wrong to me.

Neo Medusa.. lol

right I am dumb

On the other hand, I still want them to get rid of Medusa. It's had like 300 games across all its various forms and I'm tired of it.

Getting rid of Destination would be cool too.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
May 22 2009 16:58 GMT
#46
On May 23 2009 01:57 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 01:53 konadora wrote:
On May 23 2009 01:50 Elyvilon wrote:
There are no twilight maps in PL right now and it feels wrong to me.

Neo Medusa.. lol

right I am dumb

On the other hand, I still want them to get rid of Medusa. It's had like 300 games across all its various forms and I'm tired of it.

Getting rid of Destination would be cool too.

Yeah seriously, I'm getting tired of Destination being used everywhere. Unless great does another proxy hatchery.
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sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 17:13:40
May 22 2009 17:08 GMT
#47
Did anyone else notice that they changed Shades of Twilight a little? The 3rd used to be up a ramp and connected to the high ground with the nat. Now its in the same general spot but on the ground. It looks like they've made the ramp into the nat alot smaller as well

This is the old version from before PL R4
[image loading]


New version
[image loading]
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 22 2009 17:10 GMT
#48
looks like Byzantium to me.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 17:16:01
May 22 2009 17:12 GMT
#49
On May 23 2009 02:08 sixghost wrote:
Did anyone else notice that they changed Shades of Twilight a little? The 3rd used to be up a ramp and connected to the high ground with the nat. Now its in the same general spot but on the ground.

Yeah I just noticed.

Old Shades of Twilight:
[image loading]


New Shades of Twilight:
[image loading]


Notable changes:
- 3rd is now below the cliff
- 12, 3, 6 and 9 expos changed
- Ramps smaller
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
May 22 2009 17:12 GMT
#50
On May 23 2009 01:58 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 01:57 Elyvilon wrote:
On May 23 2009 01:53 konadora wrote:
On May 23 2009 01:50 Elyvilon wrote:
There are no twilight maps in PL right now and it feels wrong to me.

Neo Medusa.. lol

right I am dumb

On the other hand, I still want them to get rid of Medusa. It's had like 300 games across all its various forms and I'm tired of it.

Getting rid of Destination would be cool too.

Yeah seriously, I'm getting tired of Destination being used everywhere. Unless great does another proxy hatchery.

im going to die if i have to ob another game of destination
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 17:17:12
May 22 2009 17:16 GMT
#51
i shit my pants.
no proxy hatch?

WHY ON EARTH? It wasnt imba ffs, Bisu loses to it and it must be nerfed instantly
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
May 22 2009 17:17 GMT
#52
Damn I was hoping for Central Plains to take over for it.
Oh well, BR was a cool map that showed its potential in 1, maybe 2 games. Shame.
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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
May 22 2009 17:19 GMT
#53
On May 23 2009 01:18 BWdero wrote:
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Neo Medusa has been changed as not to enable Zerg to build Hatchery on the middle area of the map.


Lame, I liked that strat.


Pretty cool, I hated it.

And yay, perhpas we'll see less zvz for a change.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 17:22:22
May 22 2009 17:19 GMT
#54
On May 23 2009 01:19 Mogwai wrote:
I really don't see why they needed to make proxy hatch impossible on Medusa, but I'm glad to see BR gone...

Agree - I don't see any reason this strategy is inherently "imbalanced". And since great used it on free and Bisu, I've been looking forward to how Protosses would respond to it if great or another Zerg tried it again. This is a lame change.

And I'm glad Battle Royal is gone, but it was sad to see in the map pool in the first place. Two seconds' examination is all any beginning SC player or fan would need to tell that Battle Royal would produce almost exclusively ZvZs...why the hell couldn't KeSPA figure this one out? It just seems like we haven't learned anything about Battle Royal that we didn't already know when it entered the map pool at the beginning of R4, which makes its original selection seem even dumber.
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Gnojfatelob
Profile Joined April 2008
Belgium216 Posts
May 22 2009 17:21 GMT
#55
On May 23 2009 01:21 Magic84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 01:18 BWdero wrote:
Neo Medusa has been changed as not to enable Zerg to build Hatchery on the middle area of the map.


Lame, I liked that strat.

Yeah, it was something new and fun, not unbeatable. Protoss didn't want to adapt nor they had enough games to do so.


I remember enough zerg and terran bitching when toss was winning everything. I feel medusa is better now without proxy hatch, but with the other fixes.
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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
May 22 2009 17:23 GMT
#56
What the hell, man. Will they be making 5-hatch hydra illegal next? It's just a strategy.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
May 22 2009 17:26 GMT
#57
Proxy hatch wasn't that imba even Much broke out in GOM . You just need a balanced army with goons and a few reavers .... i hate this protoss and terran can proxy their shit all over the map , but when a potential proxy hatch strategy is used it gets fucked , because protoss sucks . Its the most underused strategy in the game and they ban it .... its stupid imo . If protoss are scared of getting hatch'd they should use reaver with a combination of ground army as their main strategy . Just like zerg figured out that proxy hatch is a good strategy on this map toss should figure a counter , but why bother its easier to just get it banned by Kespa ...stupid . Kespa keeps surpassing its failures with every day coming .
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 17:28:57
May 22 2009 17:26 GMT
#58
On May 23 2009 02:21 Gnojfatelob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 01:21 Magic84 wrote:
On May 23 2009 01:18 BWdero wrote:
Neo Medusa has been changed as not to enable Zerg to build Hatchery on the middle area of the map.


Lame, I liked that strat.

Yeah, it was something new and fun, not unbeatable. Protoss didn't want to adapt nor they had enough games to do so.


I remember enough zerg and terran bitching when toss was winning everything. I feel medusa is better now without proxy hatch, but with the other fixes.

Yeah, because Neo Medusa really fixed a majority of the problems that already existed in tvp/tvz.

Also, Gorush tried to proxy hatch Backho in OSL. Backho breaks out ez.

Backho > Bisu?!?!?!
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integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3161 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 17:34:26
May 22 2009 17:32 GMT
#59
On May 23 2009 01:26 konadora wrote:
NO

WHAT HAPPENED TO CENTRAL PLAINS =(

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 01:21 Magic84 wrote:
On May 23 2009 01:18 BWdero wrote:
Neo Medusa has been changed as not to enable Zerg to build Hatchery on the middle area of the map.


Lame, I liked that strat.

Yeah, it was something new and fun, not unbeatable. Protoss didn't want to adapt nor they had enough games to do so.


Totally agree. I bet Bisu complained to KeSPA directly

rofl
uglymoose89
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States671 Posts
May 22 2009 17:40 GMT
#60
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 23 2009 02:12 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 02:08 sixghost wrote:
Did anyone else notice that they changed Shades of Twilight a little? The 3rd used to be up a ramp and connected to the high ground with the nat. Now its in the same general spot but on the ground.

Yeah I just noticed.

Old Shades of Twilight:
[image loading]


New Shades of Twilight:
[image loading]


Notable changes:
- 3rd is now below the cliff
- 12, 3, 6 and 9 expos changed
- Ramps smaller



They also made the terrain unbuildable near the entrance below the natural. prolly to prevent the proxy hatches like neo medusa?

Agreed breaking out would be possible with a balanced army but the tosses don't want to change their strat. >.> is it me or is Kespa taking a larger and larger direct role in the outcome of games than ever before?
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