EPTOn June 04 2017 19:47 CUTtheCBC wrote:
where is supernovamaniac~
where is supernovamaniac~
dunno last i heard from him he went to ER for dislocated jaw
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supernovamaniac
United States3048 Posts
dunno last i heard from him he went to ER for dislocated jaw | ||
Xeofreestyler
Belgium6787 Posts
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6787 Posts
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don_kyuhote
3007 Posts
On June 05 2017 22:51 Xeofreestyler wrote: Anyone remember the TL vs SC2GG crewbattle? good times I don't know how many of those there were, but I only watched the game where my middle-school friend (LastRomantic) played. Unfortunately, he lost.  | ||
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Varbind
Canada113 Posts
Nice to see you in the thread, I had no idea about your work in barcraft, I wish that had of worked out. I really appreciated your casting though and just want to add my voice to the others thanking you for your efforts. | ||
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RainmanMP
United States1699 Posts
On June 05 2017 09:02 Plume wrote: Throwback to whisper commentaries, those were always a treat. OMG Yes I loved that. Having to pop into ventrilo for casts live and all the syncing, good times. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
But I think that the time I got into BW you soon started to commentate less and less of pro BW and switched to SC2, even during beta, and LoL... Anyway, the bottom line is that somehow when people can post their comments anonymously there is always much more vitriol than otherwise. I know it first hand as a lecturer. In my evaluations there is always a sizable and vocal group of students often complain regardless of what you do, and regardless of the effort I put into my lectures. | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4343 Posts
On June 05 2017 22:51 Xeofreestyler wrote: Anyone remember the TL vs SC2GG crewbattle? good times I loved that shit. I recently rewatched that series. Hilarious all the way through. To this DAY I still laugh at myself on Medusa. | ||
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SchAmToo
United States1141 Posts
I fully open Have At You up to be casted. If you wanna be my co-caster I just ask for a quick DM if you're interested. I'm trying so hard to bring SCBW viewership back up a bit and I'd love to have some of you few who are renowned to reclaim some throne and have some fun like you used to. It's actually very hard to find SCBW Casters every other week. To Diggity: Read your update, thanks for it  I know a lot of the pain you feel too, as a caster from the SC2 days. If you host or wanna plan together something in SoCal i'd be down to fly down from SF with some people! | ||
GTR
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On June 06 2017 07:52 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: I loved that shit. I recently rewatched that series. Hilarious all the way through. To this DAY I still laugh at myself on Medusa. I rewatched this because I forgot what happened and I legit 100% thought you won vs Rage even watching the VOD ... you even offensive GGd what a game lmao Rage lost like 8 vultures to zealots lol | ||
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VioleTAK
4411 Posts
So I'm seeing this thread now, and even though I haven't been any kind of active for the post SC2 days, I'd still like to add my point of view. Forgive me for starting with somewhat of an intro, because it's important in order to reach a specific point about all this. So I created the Jon747 youtube channel in 2005 if memory serves, and then the VioleTAK youtube channel beginning of 2006. These were still the "early days" of youtube and you could freely apply for director account, and youtube easily approved. I was lucky that both accounts were director status before November 2006 when youtube went strict with the 10min video limit, and new directors took forever to be approved if at all. I had a blast with VioleTAK. Because I've been watching BW long before creating it, I had lots of VODs that were not really available to general public, I used to collect them on CDs for years, had my spots in Korean forums and websites where I knew they would post matches for download, and Korean friends on bnet that helped me out if needed a specific match. Then when I created VioleTAK I just slowly put them out there for everyone, with some nice video descriptions about the players with my general knowledge... That's basically all I ever did. Still, back then it was new and people saw it as unique, to watch full length pro matches. It was like a glimpse into a secret world that up to that point was more or less a total mystery to the western player! That's how it felt, from the overwhelming amount of comments, it felt like people were discovering some kind of Shangri-La. At some point I gave the Jon747 to a Korean guy that had total access to all pro matches, he used to upload them on his channel but he didn't have director, which made it very annoying to cut them in pieces. Anyway he made Jon747 into an amazing source of progaming for the western viewer. Later he got banned or something, I can't exactly recall. But generally speaking, times were good! Youtube statistics weren't like today, all that detailed information... But there were some options. When you guys, the English commentators, started to enter the scene... I gave you access to the VioleTAK account so you could have the full match upload time length. Still as the original owner I could see the stats, and in total awe I was witnessing as viewers were staying tuned for length of entire videos. You were keeping the viewer's attention for 70, 80%+ of the video. That was A LOT (and in today's attention-standards maybe even more amazing). Even in the best matches I used to upload in pure Korean the general average was 40% or less (sometimes way less), but you guys kept them glued to the screen. I don't think anyone has any idea how much you... the group of English commentators... actually contributed to BW. No one can really know. But I had a better view on the situation than most, and I can share what I saw and felt, that English commentators brought a passion into the western BW scene, in ways that never existed before! And that this passion rippled and made countless people aware of the existence of BW, and even more so - of the very existence of progaming. That there is such a thing as a professional gamer. I honestly felt this was happening, BIG TIME, more than anyone including the commentators themselves had any idea. That passion was very special. For example the way Klaz spoke *really* quickly as action was happening in the match, his passion matches the Korean commentators in my opinion. He spoke like 3 Korean commentators put together. I've never seen anything like that since. People felt your passion, your love of the game. People that never played BW before, through your commentaries - realized that this was more than a game, that there is something here beyond what meets the eye, something behind it all, some grand phenomenon in south Korea that they never knew existed. You were important seeds for various aspects of gaming today. I know it sounds grandiose, but this is honestly my point of view. At the time I was utterly surprised with the amount of hate that was directed towards you, it really was... something... I don't think I fully understood it, but what I did think was the following: Like I said, the progaming scene of BW for the western player/viewer/fan was relatively small, and English commentators brought a huge wave of life into this previously exclusive club. I think many of the self proclaimed 'elite' felt threatened, for various reasons (most of which were probably completely unrealistic), and translated those fears onto the commentators via misplaced hate, and a lot of envy! I remember watching the 'commentator idol' contest while traveling in Europe, and thinking it was such a beautiful, hopeful, vibrant project full of life, full of love for the game. I know a lot of TL users looked down on such things, but those were exactly the kind of people that were just living in fear as I saw it. On June 03 2017 17:37 Diggity wrote: That was a big part of it as well, without a doubt, I fully agree.I quickly discovered that most people in the community don't know as much as they purport to know, and there is a touchy ego about it. On June 03 2017 17:37 Diggity wrote: So true! You and your fellow commentators were pioneers, nothing less.Considering all the work in the Starcraft community was essentially a non/low-paying second job and I wasn't really contributing anything of value I decided to drop off quietly into the shadows. I am fairly proud of the mark I made on the scene. I feel like I influenced a great number of people in very positive ways. I made a lot of great friends and met amazing people that I will never forget. I helped esports and twitch get up off the ground and enter a new era. I definitely feel like I helped pioneer things, and for a time I was the "bar" of commentators which is saying something. I have a lot of respect and admiration for everything you and your fellow commentators have accomplished. I think it was meaningful and fantastic for everyone involved, and that you are owed a great debt of gratitude. | ||
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kjwcj
Australia1064 Posts
On June 05 2017 05:54 BigFan wrote: Never really watched any of the streamers mentioned aside from maybe a single video from Nukethestars. The only streamer who I can partially credit for getting me back into the game is Sayle. His english casting of PL and playing BW on stream complete with Disney songs and such was fantastic. He's really knowledgeable but also really humorous and that's something I like to see in a caster. Sayle had the right balance between the two and casted lots including Gamble Cups which I greatly enjoyed at the time. just after i started dating my girlfriend in 2012 she was over one night and had fallen asleep while we were watching a movie on the couch. i wasn't that tired and didn't want to wake her up, so i started watching sayle laddering on fish (or maybe iccup) before a gambit cup broadcast. after a while she woke up and ended up watching sayle casting bw with me until like 5am in the morning (gambit cup broadcasts used to start at around 1am australian time). ~5 years later every time i'm watching starcraft she asks me where sayle is. she also knows all the words to "i'll make a mang out of you". | ||
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moktira
Ireland1548 Posts
Back in 2007 VioleTAK and Jon747 were my sources of VODs, great to see you're still around and following the scene again! | ||
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RainmanMP
United States1699 Posts
On June 06 2017 23:16 moktira wrote: Great to see people like VioleTAK and Diggity posting here. Back in 2007 VioleTAK and Jon747 were my sources of VODs, great to see you're still around and following the scene again! Amen. Makes me miss the old days. | ||
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Pippah
Denmark359 Posts
I still remember the proleague finals live cast that I watched at 5 in the morning where FireBatHero jumped in the ocean, that was legendary. VioleTAK/Jon747 was later my source of VODs when I couldnt wait for an english cast because I had become so addicted that I needed to watch VODs as soon as they are out. Moktira, you were legendary in the small VOD thread, I must have thanked you there many times Always wanted to try commentating myself from time to time, but I never really had the balls to start somewhere. Now it seems too late. Thank you all for your work | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
In the end, this is what drew me to the BW community. You see people doing so much for absolutely nothing but the passion of it. In this environment, you do your damnedest to contribute in any way you can. For me, that meant live relay of the korean TV channels - that's what I (along with many others) could bring. But damn near everybody who got into this community through you guys have done something in return. Not because they had to, but because we were and are completely spellbound by the work and passion of the people before us. That is treasure, and that is something to be proud of. Thanks. | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4343 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
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