EPTWhat happened to Moletrap? - Page 8
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Diggity
United States806 Posts
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4336 Posts
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RainmanMP
United States1698 Posts
On June 07 2017 22:43 Diggity wrote: Violetak: None of this would have been possible without you. Your channel is what originally allowed Moletrap and I to follow broodwar. We owe you a huge debt of gratitude. Amen to that. Boxer vs 13 Zerg video got me into Starcraft. | ||
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VioleTAK
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We're all grateful, a good place to be  | ||
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cannedbeans
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4336 Posts
Like I said. I think Diggity had last contact. | ||
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moktira
Ireland1543 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/277972-klazart-lives?page=11#218 But I think some people have had contact with him since. It would be interesting to know what he's up to now. I think he was directing short films a few years ago. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
It's unfortunate to me that a lot of people say they quit because of the flak. If people quit because their lives don't allow them to cast, I perfectly understand and accept that. I know that I myself almost completely dropped off the Starcraft scene when my own life became too busy to spend time on the game. But people leaving because they felt unloved? Really unfortunate given how much you all did help us noobs get into the game. | ||
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Moletrap
United States1297 Posts
Nuke, stop spilling my secrets!!!Although its kind of cool that this turned into a nostalgia thread, and so many old casters and fans have chimed in! I had some rants ready to go, but since things got all warm and fuzzy now, I'll hold back. I'll make some brief comments about some other things that have come up in this thread though, since I have kind of a unique perspective on some of them... First of all, +1 on whiners not knowing as much as they think they know. Let me first fully admit that when I started I knew absolutely nothing. But I got better and people ignored that silly fact. And yes, I never knew everything, and I made mistakes. But I loved it when people criticized me for saying something that I just watched Flash do 10 times or something that a progamer told me in the Gom studio. I appreciate that you're Diamond, kid, but I'm gonna defer to what the Code S players told me about the matchup. But if you complain hard enough, people will believe YOU know what you're talking about. SMH. And something I'll add is that if you think you get a lot of shit on Youtube, where people watching you is voluntary, wait til you are casting a public tournament where it goes from "you suck I'm out" to "you suck and you're ruining something I care about." I never had people request I commit suicide until I started at Gom. But what I tried to do was filter it all through a sieve and see what nuggets of shit wisdom were left, and then tried to improve myself. I think a lot of people had their minds set and wouldn't change their opinions when I did improve, though. Second, there is a lot of backstabbing in this community, now this industry. I know that Psy and Dig have both gotten royally screwed over in the past, as have I, and I'll bet others have too. eSports companies are generally pretty shitty to work for, often asking too much, being inconsiderate, forgetting to pay, and breaking agreements. And I'm not going to name names but specific people in the industry have screwed me pretty hard, too. And some people were not all the community cracked them up to be. Oh, the stories I could tell, hahaha.. That said, some specific people were really helpful and supportive, too, and there are a couple people that weren't well liked but who were actually good people... but I don't think people know what a generally cutthroat place eSports is behind the scenes. So what kept me going in the Youtube days? The knowledge that there were people like those of you in this thread who were getting something great out of it. I knew that the people throwing shade were either too stupid to realize or too afraid (I think you're right about that VioleTAK) to acknowledge that we were bringing more fresh eyes to the scene than had ever been brought before. That I was actually helping them even though they hated me for it. (Klazart even used to tell people in every video to go to TL) But most of all because of all of the comments of thanks and the emails telling me about what a positive impact I was having on people's lives, giving them something to relax to after school or sometimes something to give their life meaning in dark times. Not only did I selfishly enjoy casting, but if I stop, the assholes win and I stop helping people. In that context, there was no way I could stop. So I took the high road and just kept faith in my knowledge that quitting was the wrong choice. The thing that is in common between all of the Youtubers mentioned in this thread is that we all did it out of passion for the game and the scene. Then I went to GomTV, and then OGN, and the hate intensified greatly, and seemed to outweigh the positive feedback. And Korea was already a rough time in my life for reasons unrelated to the casting hate, and so being shit on daily on social media didn't help. But I never went into a broadcast with the negative on my mind. I always just cleared my mind and enjoyed the game and did the best broadcast I could. I still refused to quit to satisfy my critics, to let them win like that, but for reasons I won't go into the specifics of, eventually staying in Korea became untenable for me. Anyway, when I got back from KR, there weren't really any options for me to get another casting job, and so to answer the question of "what happened to moletrap" I'll quote Klazart from his thread that was just linked by Moktira to explain: Commentating: I had a blast doing it but it took up a lot of my time since I can't do anything by halfs. If I did one commentary I'd end up doing fifty. Plus, if you want to do it properly you can't just do one commentary, you got to watch all the games and stay up to date with the scene and I just didn't have the time to keep up with it anymore. So it was all or nothing, and since it wasn't all, it had to be nothing. I was burnt out from all the hate, and my Youtube viewership had all left, so I didn't feel like I was doing anyone a service, so I turned my back on esports and didn't watch a single professional SC match for years. I got a "real" job in the field I was in before casting, education. I actually got my start in casting while procrastinating from my grad school homework. And actually, I wanted to combine the two, and get people to let me use professional educational methods to improve the field of LoL and SC coaching, but everyone ignored me on that. So I spent some time getting my life back together (I went through yet more personal drama shortly after returning to the US) and advanced my education career. I taught high school for a few years, and it was really amusing when my students found out I was slightly efamous. One time I actually caught a kid watching one of my videos on his phone in class, and another time a fellow teacher found out who I was while we were talking in the copy room told me he was a big fan. Surreal. Last summer/fall I spent some months on an epic road trip through the rocky mountains, living in my car. Most recently I spent some months chillin with friends and family while hunting for a job. And this thread is extremely timely, because just this week I got a fantastic new job in education working for a non-profit. It's kind of the culmination of my career thus far, and it's going to be an exciting challenge that scares me a little but that I'm also looking forward to. Brood War Remastered admittedly has me a little intrigued... and since BW doesn't change every 5 minutes like SC2, I feel like I still mostly understand the game, although I'd have to catch up with the meta. I've watched a little ASL and it's pretty neat to Flash back to the BeSt times of Brood War, with all the old pros switching back to it. I'm really glad that Tasteless and Artosis are doing it, because they have the history to give the proper appreciation to the old days. That's the one thing I was most sad about leaving Gom, actually, was that I was the only one bringing the rich history to Code A, which had so many old B teamers and veterans. And ASL needs it even more, but Nick and Dan know what's up. Oh man... there's so much nostalgic waxing I could do now that my mind is there. Maybe I should write more about the old days before I forget it all. Maybe we all should. I'll end with adding my thanks to all of you folks who I casted with or beside, and who made it possible, and who kept us going with your appreciations. Our far fetched dreams of spreading eSports around the world have been realized, at least in some form. We were the pioneers of what is now a legitimate industry. Good game, well played. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
Thanks for the post! I really liked your old BW videos, Moletrap. | ||
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Pippah
Denmark353 Posts
- Was it you who listened to old cassettes on your walkman trying to learn korean while working at a warehouse? | ||
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JungleTerrain
Chile799 Posts
I miss your dual commentaries with Diggity! | ||
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RainmanMP
United States1698 Posts
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
On June 06 2017 21:11 VioleTAK wrote: At some point I gave the Jon747 to a Korean guy that had total access to all pro matches, he used to upload them on his channel but he didn't have director, which made it very annoying to cut them in pieces. Anyway he made Jon747 into an amazing source of progaming for the western viewer. Later he got banned or something, I can't exactly recall. I want to say it was something like he deliberately nuked the channel after he misunderstood something from the English speaking community as racist. He was like, super nationalistic and wouldn't back down even after Korean speaking people tried to explain it to him. Or something. | ||
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nofAcedAgent
United States952 Posts
lots of nostalgia here. thanks for everything (casters) | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
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mpa
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Moletrap : for his infectious passion for the game Diggity : for his calm, soothing voice. Making a great duo with moletrap Klazart : for his breadth of vocabulary, his prowess at making metaphors and of course his legendary speed and passion Cholera : probably my favorite because of all his idiosyncrasies. WW2 comparisons, Flash is a robot, Hyuk-ing, talking up Bisu and the Mantoss' sexual prowess, etc. Non-technical cast is best cast. Nuke : for succeeding in being the invisible buddy talking about the game next to you on the coach I used to hate TL for the many vitriol they've thrown at the sc2gg casters. I just couldnt and still cannot understand how they'd prefer korean casters when they dont even speak korean. I still think the TL admins at the time dropped the ball in not stomping down on such elitist attitude. Elitism caused me to not post anything lest I'd be subjected to ridicules by the would-be Royal Roader (aka regular posters). Anyways, thank you again to the SC2GG crews. Back in my college days when I only had like 5 euro for the whole evening, I would rent a PC to download SC2GG commentated VODs then spend the evening watching them while eating dinner. It was a blast. | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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Moletrap
United States1297 Posts
On June 11 2017 20:00 Pippah wrote: Moletrap I remember some story that made me chuckle back in the days, confirm it for me please - Was it you who listened to old cassettes on your walkman trying to learn korean while working at a warehouse? LOL, probably someone else... I listened to Korean language mp3s on ipod while jogging along the river in Seoul. I did work in a warehouse, once, which is part of where my name came from... maybe the stories are getting mixed up? | ||
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Pippah
Denmark353 Posts
On June 12 2017 19:47 Moletrap wrote: LOL, probably someone else... I listened to Korean language mp3s on ipod while jogging along the river in Seoul. I did work in a warehouse, once, which is part of where my name came from... maybe the stories are getting mixed up? Hah that might be it... otherwise my memory got a little dusted aswell over the years  | ||
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