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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
March 31 2017 12:47 GMT
#401
On March 31 2017 19:57 Creager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2017 19:11 neptunusfisk wrote:
On March 31 2017 18:27 Creager wrote:
On March 31 2017 18:23 0mg_t1red wrote:
On March 31 2017 16:53 neptunusfisk wrote:
I honestly don't understand the whole "cold and isolated UI" stuff people keep repeating. It seems like code for "it's different and I hate change". I mean, hanging out in a near-empty ICCup channel with some peruvian spamming "1v1 go" is the real thing that makes me feel like a depressed person lost in empty space...

Agree, never understood this stuff with hanging in channels for enternity, instead of actually playing


Some people prefer socializing over playing.


That's the point: there are better ways to socialise nowadays. Yes, Starcraft was released before MSN messenger, but now we have all kinds of voice chat and social media for those who only want to chat, leaving game lobby channels empty except for (surprise!) those looking for a game.


While I agree there are certainly "better" ways to socialize nowadays, is it really more convenient having to rely on an external site/service to do that when you have a simpler method of achieving what you seek (talking about the game, strategies etc.) already implemented in the game?


Yes. Most people who play with their friends are playing multiple different games with different people, and so certain discussions about games are much more convenient if they are outside any particular game.

Of course certain hardcore players stick to one single game, but even then is it often more convenient to use a lightweight and specialised service for chatting.


On March 31 2017 20:07 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2017 16:53 neptunusfisk wrote:
I honestly don't understand the whole "cold and isolated UI" stuff people keep repeating. It seems like code for "it's different and I hate change". I mean, hanging out in a near-empty ICCup channel with some peruvian spamming "1v1 go" is the real thing that makes me feel like a depressed person lost in empty space...

It's a lot to do with the colour palette. The bnet 1.0 ones are much warmer.

Changing the font colour of ids and their text would help a lot I think. And the background image maybe.

For the record I didnt love the wc2 bnet for similar reasons (well tft anyway), but it had some more different colours to break things up.


Agree. But changing some colours is a minor thing in the grand scheme of things, isn't it? When a big Swedish music streaming service changed their colours a few years ago a lot of people were very upset, but this is forgotten and their product is still doing well since the functionality is the same or better.

On March 31 2017 17:53 neptunusfisk wrote:
If the new chat gets some of the /commands and features back, and a colour scheme to mimic the old one, then I'm sure everyone would be happy. Noone would truly miss the ad banner etc would they?

maru G5L pls
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
March 31 2017 12:50 GMT
#402
I have just downloaded PTR and I can't connect too: "The selected network provider could not be initialized".
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 31 2017 15:42 GMT
#403
On March 31 2017 21:50 Netto. wrote:
I have just downloaded PTR and I can't connect too: "The selected network provider could not be initialized".

I have the same issue. Nothing i have done so far has fixed it and i can't find anything with my google fu
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ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-31 16:01:29
March 31 2017 16:00 GMT
#404
guys using discord you can use discord, other people prefer chat channels or maybe both is great too
the integrated chat system is very important! let me tell you that, you may not know if you haven't hung out on bnet in the earlier days! a ton of activity on the channels and this helped the game (playing) too obviously
good functionality and defaults are important, the profile & icons & stats, the / commands, the aspect, etc
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 31 2017 16:09 GMT
#405
Anyone tried to connect other servers which appeared today? Fish, Europe - none of them working for me, can't even create account.
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
March 31 2017 16:14 GMT
#406
Ackh! They've split the gateways. We need to push for a consolidation, this is absurd.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
March 31 2017 16:18 GMT
#407
Exactly. Fish + Global Server is all we need at limited activity times. I expect a huge growth but don't think it will be sustainable. Also people will stick to the game longer if they are more together.
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NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
March 31 2017 16:19 GMT
#408
Other gateways seem to be up, just connected to EU.
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-31 16:22:49
March 31 2017 16:21 GMT
#409
Connected to Europe today, beside the (apparently) few games and people present, played at LIGHT SPEED, no more latency. After a very laggy experience yesterday, 10/10 to developer for reacting this fast to complains. This way, this game is damn FUN!
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-31 16:38:01
March 31 2017 16:28 GMT
#410
On April 01 2017 01:18 kogeT wrote:
Exactly. Fish + Global Server is all we need at limited activity times. I expect a huge growth but don't think it will be sustainable. Also people will stick to the game longer if they are more together.

I agree but at the same time the lag thing, its hard to say huhu I don't know how good the latency would be for a global server,
but actually since the game itself is peer to peer it would work, just make it more difficult to make non laggy game for like 3v3 or something . . . unless there is added option that only people close to you in a certain area can join your game . . . (or with a lat limit)
feels like it would be great to have a global server, I'm just not sure how well it would work in some situations
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-31 17:38:19
March 31 2017 16:43 GMT
#411
On April 01 2017 01:21 Xeln4g4 wrote:
Connected to Europe today, beside the (apparently) few games and people present, played at LIGHT SPEED, no more latency. After a very laggy experience yesterday, 10/10 to developer for reacting this fast to complains. This way, this game is damn FUN!


How did you connect? Somehow I cannot connect. By the way I can't see any servers, weird....

@Edit:
Ok I had to just put it on my C drive and it is working now. But I cant download any map
Be the change you want to see in the world.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-31 17:13:37
March 31 2017 16:58 GMT
#412
Everything is perfect, there are only few things needed
- bnet chat commands
- autocomplete chat command on Tab
- no friend limitation

make BW great again !
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Relieve
Profile Joined March 2010
United States15 Posts
March 31 2017 17:07 GMT
#413
I can't even run the game, I get a really weird error

Shaders/textured_vert.glsl
ERROR: 0:1: ": Version number not supported by OGL driver
ERROR: 0:1: ":syntax error #version
ERROR: 0:3: 'in': supported in GLSL 1.30 or later
ERROR: 0:4: 'in': supported in GLSL 1.30 or later
ERROR: 0:6: 'out': supported in GLSL 1.30 or later
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Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
March 31 2017 17:13 GMT
#414
On April 01 2017 01:43 Netto. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2017 01:21 Xeln4g4 wrote:
Connected to Europe today, beside the (apparently) few games and people present, played at LIGHT SPEED, no more latency. After a very laggy experience yesterday, 10/10 to developer for reacting this fast to complains. This way, this game is damn FUN!


How did you connect? Somehow I cannot connect. By the way I can't see any servers, weird....



same way as other gateway, it put you in USA-1 but it's EU server. There is a problem for creating game and watching replays (say something wrong with advertising the game) ... i think it's 3:6 error, anyone?
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
524 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-31 17:14:57
March 31 2017 17:14 GMT
#415
Annoyed with hosting atm:
One guy kept pestering me to start even tho he hasn't finished downloading the map yet, so I tried to start and got the error message that it hasn't finished. However that made the % counter get stuck. Even after he left the lobby it stayed, even when another guy filled in, making me unable to start the game. Thus I restart BW and host again, but similar issue: download gets stuck at some % and stays after they leave lobby: [image loading]
Now a few hours later it is even worse: it never gets past the "Creating Game" box, no matter how long I wait all I get is: [image loading]...
Rea-Rea
Profile Joined September 2009
United States42 Posts
March 31 2017 17:14 GMT
#416
On March 31 2017 12:51 Galtath wrote:
Alright, Well despite my best efforts, I am unable to play the PTR.

I'm running a linux machine, can't get it running through wine, can't get it running through an XP VM, 7 VM, or 10 VM. Like, the fuck? Never had this much trouble running a game before, especially when 1.16 runs fine through wine.


Same here - Normally I'm pretty good at figuring out what the problem is. I can't figure it out though.

err:module:attach_process_dlls "ClientSdk.dll" failed to initialize, aborting
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Starcraft\\StarCraft.exe" failed, status c0000094

The error is a divide by zero error, which tells me ClientSdk.dll is wanting some libraries that default wine prefixes don't have and probably libraries that are not available via winetricks.
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
March 31 2017 17:29 GMT
#417
Currently having problems creating games in EU as posted above, seems like the server fails to list the games to people and terminates the creation.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-31 17:45:40
March 31 2017 17:45 GMT
#418
need to uninstall current version to try this out? because if not it says can't patch a 1.16.1? or error with mpq file for 1.16.1 before I downloaded the client launcher install from website
psd
Profile Joined February 2016
France94 Posts
March 31 2017 17:46 GMT
#419
Can't host on EU either =(
Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
March 31 2017 17:48 GMT
#420
On April 01 2017 02:46 psd wrote:
Can't host on EU either =(


Same here.
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