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StarCraft v1.18a Patch Notes; Preparation for SC:R

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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
June 26 2017 08:33 GMT
#501
Why do the mutalisks look like a flying christmas tree with the weird lighting?

Also, holy shit.. who thought that making tanks die like nukes was a good idea.
wow, that's just amazing how that death animation ever got past the first discussion level at blizzard.
I don't believe you.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-26 09:12:36
June 26 2017 09:11 GMT
#502
On June 26 2017 12:02 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Blues were pretty quick and diligent replying to threads/posts and fixing issues relating to 1.18 bugs and UI improvements but I have not seen them say anything whatsoever regarding peoples concerns with some of the new unit designs/death animations.
That alone is deeply unsettling, isnt it? We need more people posting in that thread, some articulate/important people.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-26 09:31:03
June 26 2017 09:21 GMT
#503
On June 26 2017 00:11 404AlphaSquad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 13:05 metzoor wrote:
On June 25 2017 13:00 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
eurgh those death sprites look bad. In the sense that they don't look like the originals (but in HD) which things pretty much looked like before. Tank shell impacts and tank explosions looking different too. What happened to keeping things the same but higher res?

Like a lot of the nitpicking (it's too shiny! etc) has been a bit much but these things are just straight up different, and I thought that was against their mandate.

The mutas popping too.. just everything in those gifs


I watched and interview with the head designer(?) of the remaster somewhere on youtube, and he said that some sprites were not recoverable since the game is so old that Blizzard no longer had them. They had to make a lot of sprites and make them look like old bw or at least similar with HD.


Early announcement showed the same and loyal to BW death animation in HD. Seems like they felt the need to rework death animations altogether. So that's partly what they have been working on (and don't tell me they weren't. Any graphic designer can tell you that it is more time consuming to make new animations than fleshing out the old ones.) . Cant say that I am satisfied with the results.

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On June 25 2017 13:11 BigFan wrote:
I think that we should wait some more before passing any further judgement on the sprites etc... I just highly doubt they changed sprites since they showed the last trailer and hopefully they prove me right lol.

I respectfully disagree. People need to be vocal about this because once the game gets shipped. changing animations are out of the question. This game deserves the harshest criticism on any potential change. Even if it is "just" changing graphics.

On closer inspection, the Marine death animation in the old gif is the same as the one in the new gif, but the blood decal was using the old BW decal as a placeholder. You can see how the end of the animation doesn't line up with the placeholder decal. They probably got around to replacing those placeholder decals since then. The same could be said for the Zergling death animation and blood decal. They definitely need more polish. In particular, I think the Marine's death animation and new blood decal looks too awkward being that wide and spread out. The Zergling blood decal needs a lot more polish. In fact, I think a lot of this needs a few passes of polish and feedback. However, I think it'll look better in full resolution instead of in low-quality gifs. The new sprites that they showed off several weeks ago looked decent enough.

I hope they also revert the changes to the edge of the Archon
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
June 26 2017 11:12 GMT
#504
I know those gifs are low resolution (Why though? Blizzard ran out of processing power for gifs??? Had only 1 second to render the gifs before posting?) but my god, do those death animations look awful. Marines dying look like exploding destructible rocks and zerglings dying reminds me of Diablo 2. And what happened to archons? I liked the intial archon animations, now they look like fluffy cotton balls.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1015 Posts
June 26 2017 12:57 GMT
#505
On June 26 2017 20:12 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I know those gifs are low resolution (Why though? Blizzard ran out of processing power for gifs??? Had only 1 second to render the gifs before posting?)

Page load times. Remember, a lot of people who play BW now have slower computers... and some of them live in Peru
AssiRoyal
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany216 Posts
June 26 2017 16:12 GMT
#506
On June 24 2017 07:56 404AlphaSquad wrote:
Is it just me or is the quality of the models declining ?
https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20852855

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wow the ling death animation looks atrocious

blizz plz fix!!!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
June 26 2017 17:26 GMT
#507
On June 26 2017 21:57 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2017 20:12 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I know those gifs are low resolution (Why though? Blizzard ran out of processing power for gifs??? Had only 1 second to render the gifs before posting?)

Page load times. Remember, a lot of people who play BW now have slower computers... and some of them live in Peru

I had a 486 and dial-up 20 years ago. Multiple gifs weren't a problem back then. You just had a to wait a few seconds. Though obviously not high res. I suspect that people might have upgraded their computers in the intervening 20 years even in poorer countries as if they can afford them then, they can afford them now, as well as better internet.
Pippah
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark356 Posts
June 26 2017 17:50 GMT
#508
Thats terrible!!! Oh my god they need to change this!!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
June 26 2017 17:59 GMT
#509
yea the ling and marine death animation looks really bad
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
June 26 2017 18:34 GMT
#510
On June 26 2017 00:11 404AlphaSquad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 13:05 metzoor wrote:
On June 25 2017 13:00 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
eurgh those death sprites look bad. In the sense that they don't look like the originals (but in HD) which things pretty much looked like before. Tank shell impacts and tank explosions looking different too. What happened to keeping things the same but higher res?

Like a lot of the nitpicking (it's too shiny! etc) has been a bit much but these things are just straight up different, and I thought that was against their mandate.

The mutas popping too.. just everything in those gifs


I watched and interview with the head designer(?) of the remaster somewhere on youtube, and he said that some sprites were not recoverable since the game is so old that Blizzard no longer had them. They had to make a lot of sprites and make them look like old bw or at least similar with HD.


Early announcement showed the same and loyal to BW death animation in HD. Seems like they felt the need to rework death animations altogether. So that's partly what they have been working on (and don't tell me they weren't. Any graphic designer can tell you that it is more time consuming to make new animations than fleshing out the old ones.) . Cant say that I am satisfied with the results.

[image loading]

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 13:11 BigFan wrote:
I think that we should wait some more before passing any further judgement on the sprites etc... I just highly doubt they changed sprites since they showed the last trailer and hopefully they prove me right lol.

I respectfully disagree. People need to be vocal about this because once the game gets shipped. changing animations are out of the question. This game deserves the harshest criticism on any potential change. Even if it is "just" changing graphics.


We need to get them to change this back
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
KaRnaGe[cF]
Profile Joined September 2007
United States355 Posts
June 26 2017 18:45 GMT
#511
If these are the final units and animation I can only hope that I will be able to use the matchmaking ladder with the old graphics.
"We must remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school." - Athenian General Thucydides Quantum Gaming
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
June 26 2017 19:19 GMT
#512
I think the gore of the remaster marines doesn't look bad it is just the shoulder pads / helmets tumbling down that makes it look silly. I'm really concerned about the zerg gore and the plasticy archons though.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 26 2017 19:50 GMT
#513
On June 27 2017 04:19 CobaltBlu wrote:
I think the gore of the remaster marines doesn't look bad it is just the shoulder pads / helmets tumbling down that makes it look silly. I'm really concerned about the zerg gore and the plasticy archons though.

Yeah, they need to slightly tone down the debris on those marine deaths, though it's interesting that they got team color into the animation.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 26 2017 20:11 GMT
#514
On June 27 2017 03:45 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:
If these are the final units and animation I can only hope that I will be able to use the matchmaking ladder with the old graphics.

They already mentioned you can switch between old/new graphics on the fly.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
August 30 2017 21:56 GMT
#515
Sorry about the bump, but is there a place where we can check SC Remastered new patch notes? Two days a week the game is updating, but no information available.
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
August 30 2017 22:18 GMT
#516
On August 31 2017 06:56 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Sorry about the bump, but is there a place where we can check SC Remastered new patch notes? Two days a week the game is updating, but no information available.


Always check here:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/22814089/
www.broodwarmaps.net
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
August 30 2017 22:54 GMT
#517
On August 31 2017 07:18 JungleTerrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2017 06:56 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Sorry about the bump, but is there a place where we can check SC Remastered new patch notes? Two days a week the game is updating, but no information available.


Always check here:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/22814089/

GREAT!!
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
August 31 2017 08:19 GMT
#518
Anyone having ladder not recording their wins correctly?

Whenever i lose i get double loss in ladder info. My stats are 9-4 and ladder shows im 16-8.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
August 31 2017 09:21 GMT
#519
On August 31 2017 17:19 SkelA wrote:
Anyone having ladder not recording their wins correctly?

Whenever i lose i get double loss in ladder info. My stats are 9-4 and ladder shows im 16-8.


Same here. When I go to my profile I have the correct stats but wrong MMR. When I go to the leaderbords for ladder I have the correct MMR but wrong stats (the stats is doubled).

I'm guessing they are trying to sort it out as we speak, lots of things buggy with Ranked.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
August 31 2017 09:23 GMT
#520
On August 31 2017 18:21 merz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2017 17:19 SkelA wrote:
Anyone having ladder not recording their wins correctly?

Whenever i lose i get double loss in ladder info. My stats are 9-4 and ladder shows im 16-8.


Same here. When I go to my profile I have the correct stats but wrong MMR. When I go to the leaderbords for ladder I have the correct MMR but wrong stats (the stats is doubled).

I'm guessing they are trying to sort it out as we speak, lots of things buggy with Ranked.


EDIT:

Yeah they seem aware of this

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20758537891
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