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mca64Launcher_
Profile Joined June 2015
Poland629 Posts
June 24 2017 10:49 GMT
#461
Looks like a shit, hope they will redesign it.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
June 24 2017 10:59 GMT
#462
Oh my, that looks BAD.
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ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-24 19:13:48
June 24 2017 11:01 GMT
#463
On June 23 2017 14:47 XERX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 14:04 probelife66 wrote:
On June 21 2017 19:42 heluq wrote:
there is a china sever now, add this to your host file, 223.252.226.70 connect.classic.blizzard.com


Broodwar is peer to peer. Their are no "servers" as such. We host our own games is my understanding. Can you tell me what the benefit of connecting to this "server" would be.


Hopefully they make the connection exactly like Warcraft 3 / Starcraft 2 lag could destroy the remasters popularity.

however do you ever get such low lat as the low you can get in good conditions in bw thx to peer to peer? I dont think so
the sprites in the gif dont look averall very good to me (dont like marine gling ultra death animations, but i think i do like the goon and archon after all just bit different, tank is a bit weird too shiny seems lightning is off? idk some shading and animating to be done), like I just prefer the original sprites or some animations but thats ok cause the option is always there to play with these
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
June 24 2017 12:52 GMT
#464
Well I don't believe this is the final product or anything. I think they made a mistake somewhere uploading old material or who knows what. They need to issue a statement soon though because keeping those low quality gifs up is going to confuse people.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Levque
Profile Joined October 2016
88 Posts
June 24 2017 18:43 GMT
#465
Being able to use the original sprites is cool ( I know I'll be using them) but remember, Blizzard is going to force the Korean tournaments to use the remaster and I assume the new sprites. Anyone looking forward to all future BW competition being a eye sore???

The "nostalgia" excuse is tired as hell, these sprites are just low quality. Blizzard needs to go back to the drawing board and delay the game if needed to do this right.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
June 24 2017 18:56 GMT
#466
one thing I don't want to see happen is smtg like the crashes currently happening that were apparently introduced by 1.18 remaining with the game, it happens too often (someone crash at start of game, everybody wait 45seconds)
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
June 24 2017 19:39 GMT
#467
On June 25 2017 03:43 Levque wrote:
Being able to use the original sprites is cool ( I know I'll be using them) but remember, Blizzard is going to force the Korean tournaments to use the remaster and I assume the new sprites. Anyone looking forward to all future BW competition being a eye sore???

The "nostalgia" excuse is tired as hell, these sprites are just low quality. Blizzard needs to go back to the drawing board and delay the game if needed to do this right.
Where the hell are you getting that from?
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-24 20:36:17
June 24 2017 20:36 GMT
#468
On June 25 2017 04:39 Dazed. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 03:43 Levque wrote:
Being able to use the original sprites is cool ( I know I'll be using them) but remember, Blizzard is going to force the Korean tournaments to use the remaster and I assume the new sprites. Anyone looking forward to all future BW competition being a eye sore???

The "nostalgia" excuse is tired as hell, these sprites are just low quality. Blizzard needs to go back to the drawing board and delay the game if needed to do this right.
Where the hell are you getting that from?

ASL4 will be using remastered, rather waiting for it. I can only presume the same for the rest. So, I think this past ASL and this upcoming ATB are the only remaining tourneys that will be using the standard version.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
June 24 2017 21:09 GMT
#469
On June 25 2017 05:36 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 04:39 Dazed. wrote:
On June 25 2017 03:43 Levque wrote:
Being able to use the original sprites is cool ( I know I'll be using them) but remember, Blizzard is going to force the Korean tournaments to use the remaster and I assume the new sprites. Anyone looking forward to all future BW competition being a eye sore???

The "nostalgia" excuse is tired as hell, these sprites are just low quality. Blizzard needs to go back to the drawing board and delay the game if needed to do this right.
Where the hell are you getting that from?

ASL4 will be using remastered, rather waiting for it. I can only presume the same for the rest. So, I think this past ASL and this upcoming ATB are the only remaining tourneys that will be using the standard version.
Do we actually have any information that blizzard is forcing these tournaments--- and any future online or offline tournament -- to do this? Adoption=/=forced adoption afterall.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-24 21:30:53
June 24 2017 21:25 GMT
#470
On June 25 2017 05:36 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 04:39 Dazed. wrote:
On June 25 2017 03:43 Levque wrote:
Being able to use the original sprites is cool ( I know I'll be using them) but remember, Blizzard is going to force the Korean tournaments to use the remaster and I assume the new sprites. Anyone looking forward to all future BW competition being a eye sore???

The "nostalgia" excuse is tired as hell, these sprites are just low quality. Blizzard needs to go back to the drawing board and delay the game if needed to do this right.
Where the hell are you getting that from?

ASL4 will be using remastered, rather waiting for it. I can only presume the same for the rest. So, I think this past ASL and this upcoming ATB are the only remaining tourneys that will be using the standard version.


Even if they broadcast live using remastered (observer), it doesn't prevent players from using the standard version since both are compatible, it's the whole point.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
June 24 2017 21:33 GMT
#471
On June 25 2017 06:09 Dazed. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 05:36 BigFan wrote:
On June 25 2017 04:39 Dazed. wrote:
On June 25 2017 03:43 Levque wrote:
Being able to use the original sprites is cool ( I know I'll be using them) but remember, Blizzard is going to force the Korean tournaments to use the remaster and I assume the new sprites. Anyone looking forward to all future BW competition being a eye sore???

The "nostalgia" excuse is tired as hell, these sprites are just low quality. Blizzard needs to go back to the drawing board and delay the game if needed to do this right.
Where the hell are you getting that from?

ASL4 will be using remastered, rather waiting for it. I can only presume the same for the rest. So, I think this past ASL and this upcoming ATB are the only remaining tourneys that will be using the standard version.
Do we actually have any information that blizzard is forcing these tournaments--- and any future online or offline tournament -- to do this? Adoption=/=forced adoption afterall.

Seems extremely likely that they will, given that they also forced the ASL to switch to 1.18 this past season (and only relented after much complaining from both fans and pros). Blizzard's "if you don't want to switch, you won't have to!" statements only go as far as they don't affect their own bottom line.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-24 21:55:49
June 24 2017 21:55 GMT
#472
People always talk about nostalgia clouding our minds, and brood war having bad graphics, but I love the graphics and nostalgia has nothing to do with it! I never played this game before august 2015 basically. If tournaments end up being only watchable in the nominally HD graphics (as shown in the presented gifs) I will cry.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12026 Posts
June 24 2017 22:14 GMT
#473
On June 25 2017 06:33 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 06:09 Dazed. wrote:
On June 25 2017 05:36 BigFan wrote:
On June 25 2017 04:39 Dazed. wrote:
On June 25 2017 03:43 Levque wrote:
Being able to use the original sprites is cool ( I know I'll be using them) but remember, Blizzard is going to force the Korean tournaments to use the remaster and I assume the new sprites. Anyone looking forward to all future BW competition being a eye sore???

The "nostalgia" excuse is tired as hell, these sprites are just low quality. Blizzard needs to go back to the drawing board and delay the game if needed to do this right.
Where the hell are you getting that from?

ASL4 will be using remastered, rather waiting for it. I can only presume the same for the rest. So, I think this past ASL and this upcoming ATB are the only remaining tourneys that will be using the standard version.
Do we actually have any information that blizzard is forcing these tournaments--- and any future online or offline tournament -- to do this? Adoption=/=forced adoption afterall.

Seems extremely likely that they will, given that they also forced the ASL to switch to 1.18 this past season (and only relented after much complaining from both fans and pros). Blizzard's "if you don't want to switch, you won't have to!" statements only go as far as they don't affect their own bottom line.


That's a big statement without any actual proof. I respect you tec, but people shouldn't be making statements like this without any verifiable evidence.
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tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-24 23:05:52
June 24 2017 23:03 GMT
#474
On June 25 2017 07:14 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 06:33 tec27 wrote:
On June 25 2017 06:09 Dazed. wrote:
On June 25 2017 05:36 BigFan wrote:
On June 25 2017 04:39 Dazed. wrote:
On June 25 2017 03:43 Levque wrote:
Being able to use the original sprites is cool ( I know I'll be using them) but remember, Blizzard is going to force the Korean tournaments to use the remaster and I assume the new sprites. Anyone looking forward to all future BW competition being a eye sore???

The "nostalgia" excuse is tired as hell, these sprites are just low quality. Blizzard needs to go back to the drawing board and delay the game if needed to do this right.
Where the hell are you getting that from?

ASL4 will be using remastered, rather waiting for it. I can only presume the same for the rest. So, I think this past ASL and this upcoming ATB are the only remaining tourneys that will be using the standard version.
Do we actually have any information that blizzard is forcing these tournaments--- and any future online or offline tournament -- to do this? Adoption=/=forced adoption afterall.

Seems extremely likely that they will, given that they also forced the ASL to switch to 1.18 this past season (and only relented after much complaining from both fans and pros). Blizzard's "if you don't want to switch, you won't have to!" statements only go as far as they don't affect their own bottom line.


That's a big statement without any actual proof. I respect you tec, but people shouldn't be making statements like this without any verifiable evidence.

I gave some in the previous statement? Or you could go back further and look at what Blizzard did to Kespa's BW leagues after they made they same sort of statements about BW vs SC2? There's plenty of history behind this.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 24 2017 23:06 GMT
#475
On June 24 2017 16:44 endy wrote:
omg it's actually possible to make the game twice as fast simply by adding #x2 at the end of the game name :O

can do x3/x4 also i think
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 25 2017 00:33 GMT
#476
On June 25 2017 06:25 iFU.pauline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 05:36 BigFan wrote:
On June 25 2017 04:39 Dazed. wrote:
On June 25 2017 03:43 Levque wrote:
Being able to use the original sprites is cool ( I know I'll be using them) but remember, Blizzard is going to force the Korean tournaments to use the remaster and I assume the new sprites. Anyone looking forward to all future BW competition being a eye sore???

The "nostalgia" excuse is tired as hell, these sprites are just low quality. Blizzard needs to go back to the drawing board and delay the game if needed to do this right.
Where the hell are you getting that from?

ASL4 will be using remastered, rather waiting for it. I can only presume the same for the rest. So, I think this past ASL and this upcoming ATB are the only remaining tourneys that will be using the standard version.


Even if they broadcast live using remastered (observer), it doesn't prevent players from using the standard version since both are compatible, it's the whole point.

yep, I'm aware of that. My comment was regarding what we the viewers will see. Once remastered gets released, there is a high chance that any and all BW tournaments will be casting the game using the HD graphics, rather than the standard ones that we've watched for so long. My only hope is that the new gfx are close enough and look good enough in the final release so that we can enjoy the match rather than nitpick about some of the smaller changes.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 25 2017 00:36 GMT
#477
I think anything regarding Remastered is going to be nitpicked apart forever .
When I think of something else, something will go here
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
June 25 2017 04:00 GMT
#478
eurgh those death sprites look bad. In the sense that they don't look like the originals (but in HD) which things pretty much looked like before. Tank shell impacts and tank explosions looking different too. What happened to keeping things the same but higher res?

Like a lot of the nitpicking (it's too shiny! etc) has been a bit much but these things are just straight up different, and I thought that was against their mandate.

The mutas popping too.. just everything in those gifs
metzoor
Profile Joined May 2017
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-25 04:10:26
June 25 2017 04:05 GMT
#479
On June 25 2017 13:00 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
eurgh those death sprites look bad. In the sense that they don't look like the originals (but in HD) which things pretty much looked like before. Tank shell impacts and tank explosions looking different too. What happened to keeping things the same but higher res?

Like a lot of the nitpicking (it's too shiny! etc) has been a bit much but these things are just straight up different, and I thought that was against their mandate.

The mutas popping too.. just everything in those gifs


I watched and interview with the head designer(?) of the remaster somewhere on youtube, and he said that some sprites were not recoverable since the game is so old that Blizzard no longer had them. They had to make a lot of sprites and make them look like old bw or at least similar with HD.

@edit
BTW. Does anyone else have this feeling that it looks more like a game from 2003/2004 era rather then a new 2017 game? Maybe its just lightning or something but it looked rather graphically poor.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 25 2017 04:11 GMT
#480
I think that we should wait some more before passing any further judgement on the sprites etc... I just highly doubt they changed sprites since they showed the last trailer and hopefully they prove me right lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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