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Stop being jerks to each other please. Stop talking about seperate TL sites, BW vs SC2, or which fan base is retarded/ignorant/elitist/old/constipated.

Don't post in the thread unless you take the time to read the situation.

Don't post in the thread to let others know that they should have been banned longer.

Don't post in the thread to claim that kespa is the evil empire based on you reading the translated musing of a random Chinese blogger.

Honestly people, this is common sense. I hate the fact that I have to moderate to the lowest common denominator. Make my job easier please.
oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
September 28 2011 02:44 GMT
#161
On September 28 2011 10:57 Release wrote:
I still feel like the flair will be gone from seeing Zero and Soulkey's bromance, Best and Frotoss, etc, etc. Balance is nice, but at what cost?


With players getting mixed up on new teams we might see new bromances blossom, don't despair
Calculatedly addicted to Substance D for profit by drug terrorists
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 28 2011 02:45 GMT
#162
On September 28 2011 04:24 caradoc wrote:
Woah. 2 more probes?

PS: thanks for the reference lol.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 28 2011 02:49 GMT
#163
My life for BW!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
lexpoa
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil73 Posts
September 28 2011 02:56 GMT
#164
Kespa will mix the players of the 3 disbanding teams to form 2 balanced teams. Why people are freaking out?

I really doubt that Kespa will manage the coaching process. Kespa will manage administrative stuff, not what goes on at the practice houses or who plays in wich map.
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
September 28 2011 03:13 GMT
#165
Fantastic!
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
September 28 2011 03:30 GMT
#166
If it's management, could it be something like board management in a corporation, or maybe even management of a subsidiary? What this equates to generally is fiscal control. The day to day affairs are in the hands of the officers (the coaching staff) but any major corporate decision will have to be made by the board. This involves many things I would think - selling/buying players, hiring/firing coaches, leasing room for a practice house and renting a dormitory for the players, buying a team bus, etc (mostly involving acts of ownership). If so, I'm not sure how this might be fair, be it the management of 2 teams or of all teams. As someone pointed out, KeSPA is composed of representatives from all the teams, but the power within has been in the hands of CJ/SKT representatives. It feels too much like conflict of interest to me, honestly.

Ultimately, if it keeps BW up and running I'm fine with it though.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
September 28 2011 03:35 GMT
#167
They seem so evil.....
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
September 28 2011 03:37 GMT
#168
Well, obviously Kespa can't intervene in who gets sent to proleague and stuff. But until the management part gets some clarification on what it actually means, then all will pretty much be speculation.

How many teams are going to be formed from those "5-6 companies willing"?
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
September 28 2011 04:09 GMT
#169
On September 28 2011 12:37 c3rberUs wrote:
Well, obviously Kespa can't intervene in who gets sent to proleague and stuff. But until the management part gets some clarification on what it actually means, then all will pretty much be speculation.

How many teams are going to be formed from those "5-6 companies willing"?


Kespa says it will try to maintain 8 teams for these year proleague format and 5-6 companies are interested in investing in to the scene but we are not told out of these interested sponsors how many more teams will be formed . I think we have just to wait and see what's going to happen.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
September 28 2011 04:29 GMT
#170
Wow first good news to come out of the BW scene in a while. YAY!!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 04:46:04
September 28 2011 04:44 GMT
#171
On September 28 2011 12:30 Caladbolg wrote:
If it's management, could it be something like board management in a corporation, or maybe even management of a subsidiary? What this equates to generally is fiscal control. The day to day affairs are in the hands of the officers (the coaching staff) but any major corporate decision will have to be made by the board. This involves many things I would think - selling/buying players, hiring/firing coaches, leasing room for a practice house and renting a dormitory for the players, buying a team bus, etc (mostly involving acts of ownership). If so, I'm not sure how this might be fair, be it the management of 2 teams or of all teams. As someone pointed out, KeSPA is composed of representatives from all the teams, but the power within has been in the hands of CJ/SKT representatives. It feels too much like conflict of interest to me, honestly.

Ultimately, if it keeps BW up and running I'm fine with it though.

That paragraph was added by the plu translator. It doesn't appear in the Korean interview.

On September 28 2011 10:55 forumtext wrote:
slight error in OP's management paragraph.

新战队的模式, 肯定不会像之前其他战队那样, 是完全的企业独占式
而是由多家企业赞助, Kespa 托管
这样做的好处是, Kespa 将可以充分获得队员的挑选权利, 有利于各方各面的平衡
同时也避免因某家企业退出战队被迫解散这样的悲剧再度发生
其实这种组队模式在网上已经讨论很久了, 应该是 Kespa 在各大论坛的写手放消息出来探风声的

The new team's management style will be different, it will have multiple sponsors instead of 1 like other teams. Kespa (temp?)manages. This way Kespa will have the power to select players, (then something about balance). This also prevents teams disbanding when 1 sponsor leaves. Actually this style of management was rumored for a while now in forums, it's likely that Kespa release this news by themselves to test reaction.

(T/N: This paragraph was written by the translator to explain to people how the new team work. He never explain his source)

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
September 28 2011 04:50 GMT
#172
if thats the case op should be edited so we avoid people "trash talking" kespa
ace hwaiting!!
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
September 28 2011 04:54 GMT
#173
On September 28 2011 13:44 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 12:30 Caladbolg wrote:
If it's management, could it be something like board management in a corporation, or maybe even management of a subsidiary? What this equates to generally is fiscal control. The day to day affairs are in the hands of the officers (the coaching staff) but any major corporate decision will have to be made by the board. This involves many things I would think - selling/buying players, hiring/firing coaches, leasing room for a practice house and renting a dormitory for the players, buying a team bus, etc (mostly involving acts of ownership). If so, I'm not sure how this might be fair, be it the management of 2 teams or of all teams. As someone pointed out, KeSPA is composed of representatives from all the teams, but the power within has been in the hands of CJ/SKT representatives. It feels too much like conflict of interest to me, honestly.

Ultimately, if it keeps BW up and running I'm fine with it though.

That paragraph was added by the plu translator. It doesn't appear in the Korean interview.

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 10:55 forumtext wrote:
slight error in OP's management paragraph.

新战队的模式, 肯定不会像之前其他战队那样, 是完全的企业独占式
而是由多家企业赞助, Kespa 托管
这样做的好处是, Kespa 将可以充分获得队员的挑选权利, 有利于各方各面的平衡
同时也避免因某家企业退出战队被迫解散这样的悲剧再度发生
其实这种组队模式在网上已经讨论很久了, 应该是 Kespa 在各大论坛的写手放消息出来探风声的

The new team's management style will be different, it will have multiple sponsors instead of 1 like other teams. Kespa (temp?)manages. This way Kespa will have the power to select players, (then something about balance). This also prevents teams disbanding when 1 sponsor leaves. Actually this style of management was rumored for a while now in forums, it's likely that Kespa release this news by themselves to test reaction.

(T/N: This paragraph was written by the translator to explain to people how the new team work. He never explain his source)



Yep, thanks, but even if it's an unsubstantiated rumor right now, it's actually a logical move to prevent the fearmongering in respect of match-fixing issues and corporate downsizing. I just have a problem with the structural aspect, since if KeSPA does change into a management body of a few teams, it could interfere in what is presumably a market/player/coach-driven aspect (such as roster changes).
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 28 2011 05:04 GMT
#174
Awesome news. I can't wait to compare the skill of the teams this next season ^_^
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
September 28 2011 05:10 GMT
#175
hell fucking yes
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 28 2011 05:21 GMT
#176
Being involved in roster changes is only to the level of American sports though.. blocking teams from becoming overpowered is probably a good idea.
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 05:26:32
September 28 2011 05:22 GMT
#177
Fuck yes!! I am so excited to see where everyone goes and the new teams...I REALLY hope JD and Killer get into same team

and im keeping this OZ tag for as long as I can! OZ forever, and OZ 2.0 <3
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
September 28 2011 05:39 GMT
#178
This is wonderful news. I'm glad that the situation is starting to stabilize with the Brood War scene. One question I have, though, is will they still hold the playoffs in the same fashion with the top-6 teams thing? With (supposedly) 8 teams, it would be kinda generous to let the top 6 advance, imo.
I'll just trust in Kespa's decision making.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51455 Posts
September 28 2011 05:40 GMT
#179
On September 28 2011 14:39 blahman3344 wrote:
This is wonderful news. I'm glad that the situation is starting to stabilize with the Brood War scene. One question I have, though, is will they still hold the playoffs in the same fashion with the top-6 teams thing? With (supposedly) 8 teams, it would be kinda generous to let the top 6 advance, imo.
I'll just trust in Kespa's decision making.


probably just revert back to the old format of 3v4, winner vs 2, winner vs 1.
Commentator
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8104 Posts
September 28 2011 05:45 GMT
#180
every time I see this topic in the side bar, i automatically read it as "news from the president of esports" lol
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