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Stop being jerks to each other please. Stop talking about seperate TL sites, BW vs SC2, or which fan base is retarded/ignorant/elitist/old/constipated.
Don't post in the thread unless you take the time to read the situation.
Don't post in the thread to let others know that they should have been banned longer.
Don't post in the thread to claim that kespa is the evil empire based on you reading the translated musing of a random Chinese blogger.
Honestly people, this is common sense. I hate the fact that I have to moderate to the lowest common denominator. Make my job easier please. |
On September 28 2011 10:57 Release wrote: I still feel like the flair will be gone from seeing Zero and Soulkey's bromance, Best and Frotoss, etc, etc. Balance is nice, but at what cost?
With players getting mixed up on new teams we might see new bromances blossom, don't despair
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On September 28 2011 04:24 caradoc wrote: Woah. 2 more probes? PS: thanks for the reference lol.
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Kespa will mix the players of the 3 disbanding teams to form 2 balanced teams. Why people are freaking out?
I really doubt that Kespa will manage the coaching process. Kespa will manage administrative stuff, not what goes on at the practice houses or who plays in wich map.
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If it's management, could it be something like board management in a corporation, or maybe even management of a subsidiary? What this equates to generally is fiscal control. The day to day affairs are in the hands of the officers (the coaching staff) but any major corporate decision will have to be made by the board. This involves many things I would think - selling/buying players, hiring/firing coaches, leasing room for a practice house and renting a dormitory for the players, buying a team bus, etc (mostly involving acts of ownership). If so, I'm not sure how this might be fair, be it the management of 2 teams or of all teams. As someone pointed out, KeSPA is composed of representatives from all the teams, but the power within has been in the hands of CJ/SKT representatives. It feels too much like conflict of interest to me, honestly.
Ultimately, if it keeps BW up and running I'm fine with it though.
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Well, obviously Kespa can't intervene in who gets sent to proleague and stuff. But until the management part gets some clarification on what it actually means, then all will pretty much be speculation.
How many teams are going to be formed from those "5-6 companies willing"?
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On September 28 2011 12:37 c3rberUs wrote: Well, obviously Kespa can't intervene in who gets sent to proleague and stuff. But until the management part gets some clarification on what it actually means, then all will pretty much be speculation.
How many teams are going to be formed from those "5-6 companies willing"?
Kespa says it will try to maintain 8 teams for these year proleague format and 5-6 companies are interested in investing in to the scene but we are not told out of these interested sponsors how many more teams will be formed . I think we have just to wait and see what's going to happen.
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Wow first good news to come out of the BW scene in a while. YAY!!
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On September 28 2011 12:30 Caladbolg wrote: If it's management, could it be something like board management in a corporation, or maybe even management of a subsidiary? What this equates to generally is fiscal control. The day to day affairs are in the hands of the officers (the coaching staff) but any major corporate decision will have to be made by the board. This involves many things I would think - selling/buying players, hiring/firing coaches, leasing room for a practice house and renting a dormitory for the players, buying a team bus, etc (mostly involving acts of ownership). If so, I'm not sure how this might be fair, be it the management of 2 teams or of all teams. As someone pointed out, KeSPA is composed of representatives from all the teams, but the power within has been in the hands of CJ/SKT representatives. It feels too much like conflict of interest to me, honestly.
Ultimately, if it keeps BW up and running I'm fine with it though. That paragraph was added by the plu translator. It doesn't appear in the Korean interview.
On September 28 2011 10:55 forumtext wrote: slight error in OP's management paragraph.
新战队的模式, 肯定不会像之前其他战队那样, 是完全的企业独占式 而是由多家企业赞助, Kespa 托管 这样做的好处是, Kespa 将可以充分获得队员的挑选权利, 有利于各方各面的平衡 同时也避免因某家企业退出战队被迫解散这样的悲剧再度发生 其实这种组队模式在网上已经讨论很久了, 应该是 Kespa 在各大论坛的写手放消息出来探风声的
The new team's management style will be different, it will have multiple sponsors instead of 1 like other teams. Kespa (temp?)manages. This way Kespa will have the power to select players, (then something about balance). This also prevents teams disbanding when 1 sponsor leaves. Actually this style of management was rumored for a while now in forums, it's likely that Kespa release this news by themselves to test reaction.
(T/N: This paragraph was written by the translator to explain to people how the new team work. He never explain his source)
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if thats the case op should be edited so we avoid people "trash talking" kespa
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On September 28 2011 13:44 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 12:30 Caladbolg wrote: If it's management, could it be something like board management in a corporation, or maybe even management of a subsidiary? What this equates to generally is fiscal control. The day to day affairs are in the hands of the officers (the coaching staff) but any major corporate decision will have to be made by the board. This involves many things I would think - selling/buying players, hiring/firing coaches, leasing room for a practice house and renting a dormitory for the players, buying a team bus, etc (mostly involving acts of ownership). If so, I'm not sure how this might be fair, be it the management of 2 teams or of all teams. As someone pointed out, KeSPA is composed of representatives from all the teams, but the power within has been in the hands of CJ/SKT representatives. It feels too much like conflict of interest to me, honestly.
Ultimately, if it keeps BW up and running I'm fine with it though. That paragraph was added by the plu translator. It doesn't appear in the Korean interview. Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 10:55 forumtext wrote: slight error in OP's management paragraph.
新战队的模式, 肯定不会像之前其他战队那样, 是完全的企业独占式 而是由多家企业赞助, Kespa 托管 这样做的好处是, Kespa 将可以充分获得队员的挑选权利, 有利于各方各面的平衡 同时也避免因某家企业退出战队被迫解散这样的悲剧再度发生 其实这种组队模式在网上已经讨论很久了, 应该是 Kespa 在各大论坛的写手放消息出来探风声的
The new team's management style will be different, it will have multiple sponsors instead of 1 like other teams. Kespa (temp?)manages. This way Kespa will have the power to select players, (then something about balance). This also prevents teams disbanding when 1 sponsor leaves. Actually this style of management was rumored for a while now in forums, it's likely that Kespa release this news by themselves to test reaction.
(T/N: This paragraph was written by the translator to explain to people how the new team work. He never explain his source)
Yep, thanks, but even if it's an unsubstantiated rumor right now, it's actually a logical move to prevent the fearmongering in respect of match-fixing issues and corporate downsizing. I just have a problem with the structural aspect, since if KeSPA does change into a management body of a few teams, it could interfere in what is presumably a market/player/coach-driven aspect (such as roster changes).
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Awesome news. I can't wait to compare the skill of the teams this next season ^_^
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United Arab Emirates5090 Posts
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Being involved in roster changes is only to the level of American sports though.. blocking teams from becoming overpowered is probably a good idea.
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Fuck yes!! I am so excited to see where everyone goes and the new teams...I REALLY hope JD and Killer get into same team
and im keeping this OZ tag for as long as I can! OZ forever, and OZ 2.0 <3
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This is wonderful news. I'm glad that the situation is starting to stabilize with the Brood War scene. One question I have, though, is will they still hold the playoffs in the same fashion with the top-6 teams thing? With (supposedly) 8 teams, it would be kinda generous to let the top 6 advance, imo. I'll just trust in Kespa's decision making.
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On September 28 2011 14:39 blahman3344 wrote: This is wonderful news. I'm glad that the situation is starting to stabilize with the Brood War scene. One question I have, though, is will they still hold the playoffs in the same fashion with the top-6 teams thing? With (supposedly) 8 teams, it would be kinda generous to let the top 6 advance, imo. I'll just trust in Kespa's decision making.
probably just revert back to the old format of 3v4, winner vs 2, winner vs 1.
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every time I see this topic in the side bar, i automatically read it as "news from the president of esports" lol
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