Firing at building before dark swarm - damage bug?

Artas1984

156 Posts

September 27 2024 19:42 GMT

I've noticed this many times, but never figured out how is this working or why is this working, so i always thought this to be another bug.

I was watching SSL1, Ro16, Hero vs.Barracks. There was a moment when Barracks got a group of marines on the high ground and started shooting Hero's Evolution Chamber (picture below). Hero reacted by casting a dark swarm on that building covering it fully, yet that did not help as the ranged damage continued to apply until the Evolution Chamber was destroyed. SC has many bugs, some of which actually make the game more balanced in my opinion, but this definitely ain't one of them. Why is this happening? Is this really the case of ''shoot first'' and don't worry about ''dark swarm''? I have only noticed this phenomena on buildings, not units, but i might be wrong - correct me if. If zerg knows about this bug, why even bother casting a dark swarm on a structure that is doomed to splash and instead cast a spell elsewhere?

Can someone extrapolate on this matter?

Li_Xin

51 Posts

September 28 2024 04:19 GMT

Dark Swarm doesn't work on buildings.

qet

Australia245 Posts

September 28 2024 09:32 GMT

Dark Swarm
"Swarm will only protect units. Buildings in the cloud remain vulnerable to attacks by ranged weapons."

http://classic.battle.net/scc/zerg/units/defiler.shtml
"Dark Swarm is created from a countless number of smaller creatures that typically cover the Defiler. The Defiler has the natural ability to launch these creatures to a projected position, creating a thick cloud of living insects that prevent any units outside from accurately targeting any units within the cloud. "

"One thing to note is that Dark Swarm does not affect buildings in any way or form. Should they be covered in a Dark Swarm, they will NOT be protected from ranged attack either from units inside or outside the cloud, they will take damage as normal. "

Artas1984

156 Posts

September 28 2024 12:07 GMT

On September 28 2024 18:32 qet wrote:
"One thing to note is that Dark Swarm does not affect buildings in any way or form.

And yet i've seen zerg countless times casting it on buildings - where there would be no units to cast on. I guess no one will bother to explain this behavior.

On a side note, i am TOTALLY STUNNED to find out about this BASIC dark swarm feature having constantly watched all the ASL's, KSLs, many of KCMs and Ultimate Battles since the beginning, always thinking that this was a dark swarm bug, not a dark swarm property. Sure, i have not played the game myself for like 15 years now, but that had to be the biggest WTF i have read...

Navane

Netherlands2763 Posts

September 28 2024 20:57 GMT

In this particular game I believe he puts (or tries to put) a lurker under that swarm.

WGT-Baal

France3577 Posts

September 30 2024 00:20 GMT

On September 28 2024 21:07 Artas1984 wrote:

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Most ASL DS on buildings (hatcheries mostly) is to save the drones or protect a defiler about to pop, or a lurk. Alternatively it s in the main where the bio being droppes is/will be to set up a fight a bit before Z units come in. I don't think i ve ever seen a DS on a building with nothing else nearby.

It s pretty common knowledge that DS only works on units. It would be beyond OP otherwise

Piste

6184 Posts

October 01 2024 05:10 GMT

Imagine trying to bust sunkens if dark swam worked on buildings :D

Nirli

Bulgaria387 Posts

October 03 2024 05:43 GMT

Zesagi, I'm telling you.
Also, this thread aged like the goop in a spawning pool.

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