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Stop being jerks to each other please. Stop talking about seperate TL sites, BW vs SC2, or which fan base is retarded/ignorant/elitist/old/constipated.
Don't post in the thread unless you take the time to read the situation.
Don't post in the thread to let others know that they should have been banned longer.
Don't post in the thread to claim that kespa is the evil empire based on you reading the translated musing of a random Chinese blogger.
Honestly people, this is common sense. I hate the fact that I have to moderate to the lowest common denominator. Make my job easier please. |
On September 28 2011 19:09 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 18:58 Game wrote:On September 28 2011 18:55 Ribbon wrote:On September 28 2011 16:35 ICanFlyLow wrote:
I wish they would atleast have 1 foreign team or a few foreign players onboard Like who? Are there any foreign players who can realistically compete in Korea, let alone a whole team? Sziky and Kolll. If LRM) was in Korea, and training in Korea, with a couple additions of the strongest player from the following best 2 foreign teams, then yes. This is nonsense ,no way kespa is going to give you exemptions unless you have pro gaming license . If you guys seriously want to establish your own team , you could have at least win a courage tournament and say okay I am a pro gamer now . Look I have the credentials to play these game good and I am up to the level of korean pro gamers . Sponsors will flock to you obviously and no doubts from kespa will even accept your team in to the league .
What? He didn't say anything about exemptions. He just said who can realistically compete, i think Kolll definitely could personally. But it isn't feasible and neither probably want to give up everything to do that.
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On September 28 2011 18:58 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 18:55 Ribbon wrote:On September 28 2011 16:35 ICanFlyLow wrote:
I wish they would atleast have 1 foreign team or a few foreign players onboard Like who? Are there any foreign players who can realistically compete in Korea, let alone a whole team? Sziky and Kolll. If LRM) was in Korea, and training in Korea, with a couple additions of the strongest player from the following best 2 foreign teams, then yes.
Team like that could really win like 2 maybe 3 matches in entire season !
Go foreigners !
On topic It's good news. Not best since teams won't be kept like they used to be( I mean roster wise ). I also wonder what will be the names of new teams. Perhaps KeSPa DQ Oz or PPP ZiZI Yo Fox ?
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On September 28 2011 18:58 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 18:55 Ribbon wrote:On September 28 2011 16:35 ICanFlyLow wrote:
I wish they would atleast have 1 foreign team or a few foreign players onboard Like who? Are there any foreign players who can realistically compete in Korea, let alone a whole team? Sziky and Kolll. If LRM) was in Korea, and training in Korea, with a couple additions of the strongest player from the following best 2 foreign teams, then yes.
You're joking right?
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Best news we've heard about brood war in a long time. Interested to see who's going to sponsor the new teams.
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yeeeey! i really dont care about the details as long as i can watch BW  so we have 1 month of now BW >.< better than nothing.
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Fuck .. Yeah .. BW
Screw you haters. You ain't saints.~~
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On September 28 2011 20:48 aimaimaim wrote:
Fuck .. Yeah .. BW
Screw you haters. You ain't saints.~~
Looks like the last ban really affected you aimaim :D .
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Great news! additional 2 teams is great but what really makes me happy is the amount support / effort kespa is doing for bw! l
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Great News
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Good news
...but this makes me sad:
On September 28 2011 04:22 eton7410 wrote:
The new teams formed next season will not be a republic of the old teams. Players will be distributed evenly with their ranking and races. The rest of the players will be FA.
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On September 28 2011 18:58 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 18:55 Ribbon wrote:On September 28 2011 16:35 ICanFlyLow wrote:
I wish they would atleast have 1 foreign team or a few foreign players onboard Like who? Are there any foreign players who can realistically compete in Korea, let alone a whole team? Sziky and Kolll. If LRM) was in Korea, and training in Korea, with a couple additions of the strongest player from the following best 2 foreign teams, then yes.
Mechanically speaking, I call bullshit
I'd wager on B-teamers against either of them carrying a 70% or 80% winrate and invest every dollar I had against you.
I don't mean this as disrespectful. You're a good guy, and you have the best interests of foreign BW (other than trying to CHARGE for replays + Show Spoiler +), but you're letting your judgment be clouded by your ties here to the point that you are very biased.
Did you see Kolll at WCG? He wasn't even close to being as good as the Koreans.
The same year, Louder tried to 2 gate Jaedong. Guess how many kills mutalisks had. I would bet on a team filled with former B-teamers that don't get taken over a team of foreigners.
However, you are right that the only way to rectify this situation is a foreign practice house, but is your suggestion ten years too late? Without a huge sponsor, a bunch of 17 year olds who have no obligations, hope with girls, etc, and the ability to bring them all together under the same roof somewhere in Incheon... yeah
i wish
in my dreams
when the fate lady sings
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If Kolll didn't show the potential to be one day an A-team progamer, then who else? I'm pretty sure he meant after some time in Korea. Not immediately. Kolll was 14 at the WCG where he came 4th. Now of course a few years lost of possible hard practice is bad but i think if he had the potential then he's still got it and could do something for sure. But this is all theoretical and i believe he's correctly focusing on education. Like i said in another topic in the past i would have chosen Kolll/gosi[terran] out of anyone to 'realistically' compete over there.
To be honest i think KeSPA would legitimately welcome the publicity of a foreign player with everything that's happened lately, if someone had a line of communication with them. But i'm not sure anybody right now is willing to dedicate their all to it, i might be wrong though i'm not familar with a lot of the foreign players situations.
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On September 28 2011 23:12 infinity2k9 wrote:
If Kolll didn't show the potential to be one day an A-team progamer, then who else? I'm pretty sure he meant after some time in Korea. Not immediately. Kolll was 14 at the WCG where he came 4th. Now of course a few years lost of possible hard practice is bad but i think if he had the potential then he's still got it and could do something for sure. But this is all theoretical and i believe he's correctly focusing on education. Like i said in another topic in the past i would have chosen Kolll/gosi[terran] out of anyone to 'realistically' compete over there.
To be honest i think KeSPA would legitimately welcome the publicity of a foreign player with everything that's happened lately, if someone had a line of communication with them. But i'm not sure anybody right now is willing to dedicate their all to it, i might be wrong though i'm not familar with a lot of the foreign players situations.
I agree tl.net should sponsor koll to qualify in courage :D
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I don't really get what KeSPA management of all the teams means, but I guess we'll have to wait and see for that one. For now, this sounds like excellent news! :D
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While I came in only with the SC2 scene, I think I've got the idea of what KeSPA is up to.
For an American audience, they seem to be headed into a MLS-like system. In that system, KeSPA would actually "own" the teams. The teams wouldn't be run by KeSPA though. They'd have a team principal that makes those choices. They'd be doing this mostly so the title sponsors don't have to foot all of the bill for the costs. This also allows them to bring in more sponsors at a lower cost.
The general idea is, just throwing out hypothetical numbers, that a team costs say 3 million USD a year. But the companies don't feel like they get that return anymore on that much money. But they might feel they'd be fine at 1.5 million USD per year. There is a problem, however, as team sponsorship is an "either/or" decision. With KeSPA actually owning the teams, they sponsors can buy in, for possibly multiple teams, at a lower cost. Say Korean Air wants to sponsor 4 teams @ 500 thousand USD a year? Now they could, and they'd have their logos show up in roughly 50% of all matches.
That would make a lot of sense, but we're working with a double translated speculation. So, take it as that until we have more information.
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If this works out well, it could set a precedence for all following e-Sports organizations that reach a certain level of influence in the progaming commercial scene.
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I'm excited by at least 8 teams next season, the BW scene has been nothing but bad news for so long, that this certainly seems to be a change in tone for the scene.
I'm just not quite sure what to make of it.
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Awsome. I suspect we will see Jaedong move to one of these newer teams ? I wonder if it will be possible for other already established players to change teams ? This will get interesting.
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