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Stop being jerks to each other please. Stop talking about seperate TL sites, BW vs SC2, or which fan base is retarded/ignorant/elitist/old/constipated.

Don't post in the thread unless you take the time to read the situation.

Don't post in the thread to let others know that they should have been banned longer.

Don't post in the thread to claim that kespa is the evil empire based on you reading the translated musing of a random Chinese blogger.

Honestly people, this is common sense. I hate the fact that I have to moderate to the lowest common denominator. Make my job easier please.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
September 28 2011 18:09 GMT
#241
<3<3 Who said BW was going to disappear?
Getting too old for this..
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 20:54:27
September 28 2011 18:11 GMT
#242
On September 29 2011 03:08 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 00:00 Taf the Ghost wrote:
While I came in only with the SC2 scene, I think I've got the idea of what KeSPA is up to.

For an American audience, they seem to be headed into a MLS-like system. In that system, KeSPA would actually "own" the teams. The teams wouldn't be run by KeSPA though. They'd have a team principal that makes those choices. They'd be doing this mostly so the title sponsors don't have to foot all of the bill for the costs. This also allows them to bring in more sponsors at a lower cost.

The general idea is, just throwing out hypothetical numbers, that a team costs say 3 million USD a year. But the companies don't feel like they get that return anymore on that much money. But they might feel they'd be fine at 1.5 million USD per year. There is a problem, however, as team sponsorship is an "either/or" decision. With KeSPA actually owning the teams, they sponsors can buy in, for possibly multiple teams, at a lower cost. Say Korean Air wants to sponsor 4 teams @ 500 thousand USD a year? Now they could, and they'd have their logos show up in roughly 50% of all matches.

That would make a lot of sense, but we're working with a double translated speculation. So, take it as that until we have more information.


That is what I kind of thought, them consolidating and sort of selling BW as a package deal, to deal with any poor ROI's from less popular or successful teams. I am curious though now as to also what happens to like KT. If they are pooling finances, can they still justify paying someone like Flash his salary or will they have to sort of budget it out in such a way as to not take money away from less successful teams.

A lot of unanswered questions....

Re-read the OP!

Just going to say this one last time. The part about Kespa managing the 1-2 NEW teams (not existing teams like KT) that will be formed, was a statement added into the summary by plu.cn (Chinese website). It might or might not turn out to be true.


Edit:
This is in Community News now. Which means more Kespa bashing to come. I'm out.


영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 28 2011 18:18 GMT
#243
On September 29 2011 03:04 Chenz wrote:
This whole Kespa organization sounds mighty suspect. I don't understand how they have gotten so much power, but it doesn't seem like it could be good for esports in the long run.

On September 29 2011 03:05 Headnoob wrote:
I do not like the idea of KESPA having even more control than it already does.


Guys that signed up in 2010 and probably don't even follow BW: KeSPA is made up of the sponsors. They have all control over the scene already. This is just a move to help protect players from disbanded teams, it's a good idea. KeSPA controls every aspect already that's what the point of a governing body of eSports.

Lately they are doing a good job it seems and managed to attract sponsors in the face of people saying it will die. Previously the main problem people had with them were strict referee decisions which were down to one guy really. Let's have some perspective here in the grand scale of things - this is what's more important than the petty things. Let the SC2 deluded guys rally against the KeSPA boogeyman (despite that they have no idea how it exists or operates) while they still lack any good sponsors and have high level players with no salaries.

User was warned for this post
Kireak
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden358 Posts
September 28 2011 18:21 GMT
#244
ahaha, Its like in school where the gymnastics teacher place you into a group for some team game. Maybe kespa finally has been completly infiltrated by the north side...
Nomad-
Profile Joined February 2011
119 Posts
September 28 2011 18:23 GMT
#245
wtf is the point of the competition if kespa is controlling absolutely anything. Just send player x vs player x a thousand times.

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villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
September 28 2011 18:27 GMT
#246
On September 29 2011 03:23 Nomad- wrote:
wtf is the point of the competition if kespa is controlling absolutely anything. Just send player x vs player x a thousand times.



ban for ignorance?

User was warned for this post
Good night sour prince. You won't be missed!
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 28 2011 18:28 GMT
#247
KeSPA isn't the coaches you complete idiot. Firstly the statement might not even be true, secondly its for the management. AND KESPA IS MADE UP OF THE FUCKING SPONSORS SO ITS NO DIFFERENT.

Like if someone puts kespa in their post they should have a box telling them 'do you even know what kespa is and what they do' and if they still post ban.
ThE)ShoWTimE
Profile Joined August 2011
Italy213 Posts
September 28 2011 18:29 GMT
#248
awesome announcment, i really want 2 teams so proleague will be as interesting as before! BW FIGHTING!!!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
September 28 2011 18:31 GMT
#249
Ah what great, great news!! BW shall continue to live on, and it looks like we will still have a full and awesome proleague, especially if the reformed teams can be made into solid contenders.

Needless to say I'm pumped for hearing what the new teams will be in October and even more so for proleague again in Novemeber!!!!!

Also, prepare for incoming waves of ignorance about KeSPA and what "managing" teams would mean...

wtf is the point of the competition if kespa is controlling absolutely anything. Just send player x vs player x a thousand times.


....

KeSPA isn't running the teams themselves, setting line-ups, etc. That's what the coaches are there for.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Zyferous
Profile Joined September 2010
United States270 Posts
September 28 2011 18:32 GMT
#250
I was scared that this was going to be bad news when I clicked the link.

bw4life!~
Jaedong forever.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
September 28 2011 18:32 GMT
#251
On September 29 2011 03:28 infinity2k9 wrote:
KeSPA isn't the coaches you complete idiot. Firstly the statement might not even be true, secondly its for the management. AND KESPA IS MADE UP OF THE FUCKING SPONSORS SO ITS NO DIFFERENT.

Like if someone puts kespa in their post they should have a box telling them 'do you even know what kespa is and what they do' and if they still post ban.


Lost cause man, lost cause.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
September 28 2011 18:36 GMT
#252
Ouuugh =( as i saw the Post i hoped for some Kespa plans to take over SC2 statement. I´m happy for BW however, but i got disapointed ...
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
September 28 2011 18:38 GMT
#253
Man, KeSPA's a pretty cool guy, managing all these teams and such. Must be a ton of business and it'll probably be easier on the teams. I don't think it should really affect play/tournaments too much though because all the coaches/teamnames will stay the same right?
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 18:52:13
September 28 2011 18:39 GMT
#254
On September 29 2011 03:23 Nomad- wrote:
wtf is the point of the competition if kespa is controlling absolutely anything. Just send player x vs player x a thousand times.

I'm not sure you have fully grasped the situation. But just to point out one small mistake you made: KeSPA will not control "absolutely anything".

Here's to hoping that the new team will get a hilarious name. I would enjoy something along the lines of The Finger of Boom, The Grandmasters of KeSPArov or KeSPAradise Lost.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
September 28 2011 18:47 GMT
#255
On September 29 2011 03:38 Dakure wrote:
Man, KeSPA's a pretty cool guy, managing all these teams and such. Must be a ton of business and it'll probably be easier on the teams. I don't think it should really affect play/tournaments too much though because all the coaches/teamnames will stay the same right?


KeSPA is an abbreviation for Korean e-Sports Association, just so you know that it's not a person.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
September 28 2011 18:51 GMT
#256
the ignorance in this thread makes me giggle.

although i hate both kespa and blizzard. thumbs up for kespa! great move to please the fans and protect their investments
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
September 28 2011 18:58 GMT
#257
On September 28 2011 04:37 Black Gun wrote:
as much as i would like to take this as good news, i cant fight the gut feeling of mine that this sounds like a government taking over control of a bankrupt company.


Agreed, dont know what I feel about this...
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Perfect
Profile Joined August 2010
United States322 Posts
September 28 2011 19:03 GMT
#258
Seems like there could be some conflict of intrest issues.
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
September 28 2011 19:05 GMT
#259
Yeah this just sets off some alarms for me. And then I remember that KeSPA does one thing; fail.
twitter.com/lumigaming - DongRaeGu is the One True Dong - /r/onetruedong
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
September 28 2011 19:06 GMT
#260
Wow, Community News strikes again.
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